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  1. #41
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    People will do Voidwatch because the tier2 Voidwatch NMs will be Magian Trial requirements.

    Calling it.

    Also, it sounds like this time the atma (atmacite, its called), is actually customizable based upon how you use cruor to build it up. That by itself sounds interesting, looking forward to it.

    But hey, SE, fix the fucking key items menus. Thanks.

  2. #42
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Abyssea itself, I find enjoyable, the only thing is that after I finished all my shit, my choices were lay low (which I chose), as I've been focusing on school and haven't played for almost a month now, or start a second emp, which I was going to do, but the items are stackable yet, and I didn't feel like camping NMs and doing VNMs, so I was like fuck that shit.

  3. #43
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    Oh, I hope someone procced grellow with a spell in that picture with ChlorisV2 and not the monk's Chi blast...

  4. #44
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    I remember when they released Salvage, people complained bitterly about the whole 'needing monks' thing to actually do anything in it. Then people found out all the secrets to it, drops, best farm paths... I remember the feeling of accomplishment the first time my group killed Long-Bowed Chariot, legit without weakening it, for the first time, and subsequently losing the drops due to the way the duping glitch that was around but no-one knew what it was.

    Then people complained when they released Abyssea. "What," you all said, "we get 30 minutes every 20 fucking hours?! What bullshit is this system. Fuck this, SE ripping money off of me for bullshit expansions. It's AMK all over again". The someone figured out how to get rape EXP in abyssea, how to build lights, farm chests, get Abyssites/Atmas... The day someone posted that the JPs figured out the weaponskill procs, everyone was all amazed. Now people complain that it's ruined the game because it's actually being used... a lot. An event that people participate in regularly, without the downtime of Einherjar or (soon-to-be former) Dynamis, dear God no it cannot be that this game is too easy now!

    Man I miss Salvage.

    Also still waiting for them to put SCH on Morrigans...

  5. #45
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    I'm pretty sure that any of the currency types will work for obtaining any of the ascent items. The currency used will depend on what type of guard you speak to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aemora View Post
    Also still waiting for them to put SCH on Morrigans...
    Morrigan's sucks. Savant's is better.

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    Abyssea/ANNM Hybrid, awesome...?

    Oh well,

    "You know what's better than Abyssea? Two fucking Abysseas!"

  7. #47
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    Jeebus people.

    This is a substantial amount of content. And after how many people said Abyssea saved the game, of course they want to expand it. It all looks like fun and will hopefully be challenging and rewarding. They must be adding a TON of items this patch lol

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    Here's a major problem I'm seeing with this.

    What if those buyable ascent items are not universal across all currency (IS, CP etc.)? So say you have to spend 1-5k IS to get the "more quality treasure" or red ascent item. I don't know about other people but I have 1k IS on my main and however much on my mule. There is absolutely no efficient way to farm IS. Your options are getting like 1-4 IS per mob killing shit (in a party) in ToAU or doing Besieged for 2kish. Is anybody else frightened by the fact that we may have to fucking kill Greater Colibri for hours on end again just for IS to get drops from this new system? It would be even worse with CP (although almost everybody has an excess of THAT, it would still run out eventually).

    Extremely Dickish move by SE if the above assumptions are correct.

    EDIT: What I mean in the second sentence is what if each specific ascent item is tied to a specific currency? (IS = red, CP = yellow, etc.)
    Might be nice to give life to old content, IS and AN are no problem to get (Besieged Campaign), CP is just ugh. And you have to work yourself on them, because dont forget, you only enhance the rewards for yourself with those items not for anyone else.

  9. #49
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    If this moves some of the people working on 2nd and 3rd Empyreans (who constantly bitch about Abyssea) out of Abyssea, I couldn't be happier. Please just fucking go away already, nobody likes you.

    CP may actually be the easiest to farm, if you don't mind astralburning. I have been wondering what to do with 650,000 CP. ><

  10. #50
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Abyssea/ANNM Hybrid, awesome...?

    Oh well,

    "You know what's better than Abyssea? Two fucking Abysseas!"
    FOUR FUCKIN' ABYSSEAS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    FOUR FUCKIN' ABYSSEAS
    They'd better get expansioning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    They'd better get expansioning!
    I wan to see the far east and meet with Tenzen again (and Phoenix!)

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    This:
    And this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn View Post
    People will do Voidwatch because the tier2 Voidwatch NMs will be Magian Trial requirements.

    Calling it.
    Also
    Quote Originally Posted by Aemora View Post
    Man I will never miss Salvage.
    ftfy

    Looks like this FFXI year is going to be full of shit.

  14. #54
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    Given the announcement of future plans and SE's track record, I cannot imagine what all you butthurt people were seriously expecting from this system. Honestly it's better than I had expected, at least there are warps to the battle areas unlike ANNMs.

    Sure they're rehashes of abyssea models, but it looks like some of the underused species at least. And some mobs (like that specific Behemoth family) dont have counterparts outside abyssea where you're buffed to hell. And the weakness system makes it more than just zerg the mob to death, which I guess one could hate if you enjoyed 'afk bot hnm > kill hnm in 5 minutes > stand in town and show off your dring' type gameplay.

  15. #55
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    So:
    Atmacites=Atmas
    Pariapts=Abyssites

    Wonderful...

    I hope they rework the weakness system for Voidwatchers so that you can target all weaknesses with different job combos other than a party of MNK, BLM/BRD, WHM, BLU, WAR and NIN.

  16. #56
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    Personally, I think it looks like it could be cool. Time will tell, obviously.

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    God I really hope he isn't proc'ing yellow with Chi Blast...

    Sorry guys I missed Mug, wait 15 min ok?

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    I really hope the item rewards for this are horrible so that I never have to do it. It seems like such a pain.

  19. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    Morrigan's sucks. Savant's is better.
    Oh, I agree. Doesn't stop me from wanting something that should have been added when WotG was released. Should make sure all jobs get something from all End-Game. Kirin's pole and Genbu's shield just ain't cutting it.

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    At first I thought they were trying to go for "Fight Aby NMs without Aby buffs!", to which I thought "Neat!". Then I got to the Atmacite/Periapt section. Now I'm scratching my head over what they're going for...

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