DAT Mining Discussion (2011-05-09)

[Cyprias]

Wonder if you can Mix&Match for the Set Bonuses. Although, I don't think it's all that worth it anyways with AF3+2 around.

[Byrthnoth]

Wonder if you can Mix&Match for the Set Bonuses. Although, I don't think it's all that worth it anyways with AF3+2 around.

Just looking at them, etc, but if the "Enhances Dual Wield" on the +2 light body was 10% then I think it would be minorly worthwhile to use it and a +1 head with the new TA/DA legs instead of 3 pieces of AF3+2 on Dancer.

[Karbuncle]

Atmacite possibilities, broken down by initial Strength, and increases.
Each of these entries is separated by 10 spaces.
Consistent with the 9 Atmacite in the key items, probably in same order.

These are what I found in the initial zones, going to look over the rest right now.
Edit: consistent from stage 1 to stage 4.

MND+1 Enmity-1
MND+2 Enmity-2
MND+3 Enmity-3
MND+4 Enmity-4
MND+5 Enmity-5 Sphere "Refresh"+1

STR+1 Accuracy+1 Physical damage taken-1%
STR+2 Accuracy+1 Physical damage taken-1%
STR+3 Accuracy+1 Physical damage taken-1%
STR+4 Accuracy+2 Physical damage taken-2%
STR+5 Accuracy+2 Physical damage taken-2%

HP+1% STR+1 INT+1
HP+1% STR+1 INT+2
HP+1% STR+1 INT+3
HP+2% STR+2 INT+4
HP+2% STR+2 INT+5 "Double Attack+1%"

DEX+1 AGI+1 Spell interruption rate down 2%
DEX+1 AGI+2 Spell interruption rate down 4%
DEX+1 AGI+3 Spell interruption rate down 6%
DEX+2 AGI+4 Spell interruption rate down 8%
DEX+3 AGI+5 Spell interruption rate down 10%

DEX+1 Attack+1 Ranged Attack+1
DEX+2 Attack+2 Ranged Attack+2
DEX+3 Attack+3 Ranged Attack+3
DEX+4 Attack+4 Ranged Attack+4
DEX+5 Attack+5 Ranged Attack+5

MP+1% CHR+1 Magic Accuracy+1
MP+1% CHR+2 Magic Accuracy+1
MP+2% CHR+3 Magic Accuracy+1
MP+2% CHR+4 Magic Accuracy+2
MP+3% CHR+5 Magic Accuracy+2 Sphere "Regen"+1

MP+5 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+1 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect +1
MP+10 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+2 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect +1
MP+15 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+3 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect +1
MP+20 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+4 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect +1
MP+25 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+5 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect +1

DEF:+2 HP+5 DEX+1
DEF:+4 HP+10 DEX+1
DEF:+6 HP+15 DEX+1
DEF:+8 HP+20 DEX+2
DEF:+10 HP+25 DEX+2

HP+1% "Magic Def. Bonus"+1 "Save TP"+2
HP+1% "Magic Def. Bonus"+1 "Save TP"+4
HP+2% "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 "Save TP"+6
HP+2% "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 "Save TP"+8
HP+3% All attributes +1 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 "Save TP"+10

From Findings thread.

And people seriously thought Atmacite was going to be so broken. These look like very small bonuses.

Stackable? Buildable? who knows.

(this could have been discussed, I stepped away from this thread for a good 30 minutes at one point)

[Gwynplaine]

Voidwatch NM weaknesses can be triggered by pet specific stuff...

[Mahoro]

Roller's Ring Rare
Ring
HP+11
Latent effect:
Adds "Refresh" and "Regain" effects
Lv86 All Jobs

Fervor Ring Rare
Ring
Summoning magic skill +4
Ifrit: "Magic Atk. Bonus"
Lv87 All Jobs

Oneiros Grip Rare Exclusive
Adds "Regen" effect
Latent effect: Adds "Refresh" effect
Lv88 All Jobs

Depending on latents, ofc.

This one too, which is arguably the best waist piece to use physical BP's (Caller's Sash for magical BP).

Mujin Obi Rare
Waist
DEF:4 MP+60 Enhances avatar attack
Lv88 WHM BLM RDM PLD DRK SMN BLU SCH

[Cail]

Voidwatch NM weaknesses can be triggered by pet specific stuff...

Oh no..maybe the pic with the Chi Blast trigger was accurate....

[Karbuncle]

Voidwatch NM weaknesses can be triggered by pet specific stuff...

You mean like, Cannibal Blade? Heavenly Strike? or even worse like "Foot Kick" and "Lamb Chop"?

Or all of the above?

.... Wyvern Breaths?

Can we see the list ; ~;?

[Karbuncle]

Oh no..maybe the pic with the Chi Blast trigger was accurate....

One of the Abyssite things had text saying something about "you can discern enemies weakness to Abilities more readily" (like Discernment)

There was one for Magic, Abilities, and something else.

edit: NVMD, Just saw it. Bloodpacts, Wyvern Abilities, Automaton Weaponskills.

Fudge lol, Thats going to be interesting. Most people will find it angering, But i think its a nice small way to make multiple jobs useful. We already need 6 people to Start the fights soo...

[Tsukiumi]

From Findings thread.

And people seriously thought Atmacite was going to be so broken. These look like very small bonuses.

Stackable? Buildable? who knows.

(this could have been discussed, I stepped away from this thread for a good 30 minutes at one point)

It's more than likely the synergy augments. Remember that one japanese twitter feed that had the picture of an augmented Byakko's? str+2 acc+1 pdt-2% or something.

[Deathbringer]

One of the Abyssite things had text saying something about "you can discern enemies weakness to Abilities more readily" (like Discernment)

There was one for Magic, Abilities, and something else.

Periapt of guidance
A talisman formed of abyssite. Grants the bearer heightened insight into Voidwalker weaknesses against weapon skills and abilities.

and

Periapt of percipience
A talisman formed of abyssite. Grants the bearer heightened insight into Voidwalker weaknesses against magic.

[Darkmagi]

Fucking retarded, unless !! isn't as important with voidwatch as it is abyssea.

[Atoreis]

Why retarded because you can't duo with WHM? go cry somewhere else. THIS IS SPA... MMO!

[Karbuncle]

Fucking retarded, unless !! isn't as important with voidwatch as it is abyssea.

it effects a lot, Similar to Abyssea. Including Drops and those Lights or some crap.

[Koyangi]

God forbid we cant bring a proc with us 100% of the time, maybe it'll make the content last longer.

[Gwynplaine]

I don't mind increasing the jobs that can be used to trigger weaknesses. But it depends how much variation they're gonna use. If there's way too much it's gonna be a pain.

[Cail]

Its gonna be retarded if its each wyvern breath ie. Sand Breath, Aqua Breath etc for a trigger. Can't control it at all

Edit: And if it is, you're gonna have groups doing no damage WS to try to get the wyvern to do the proper breath, and therefore lenghtening fights. If there's a line to go in or whatever, people are gonna get pissed

[Darkmagi]

God forbid we cant bring a proc with us 100% of the time, maybe it'll make the content last longer.

I'd rather ditch the entire enhanced drop bullshit and not be forced on retarded jobs that would serve no purpose other than triggering a !! stagger.

[Byrthnoth]

Its gonna be retarded if its each wyvern breath ie. Sand Breath, Aqua Breath etc for a trigger. Can't control it at all

Edit: And if it is, you're gonna have groups doing no damage WS to try to get the wyvern to do the proper breath, and therefore lenghtening fights. If there's a line to go in or whatever, people are gonna get pissed

You actually can, using Threnody. At 90, Wyverns always use whatever breath the monster is weakest to.

[Cail]

You actually can, using Threnody. At 90, Wyverns always use whatever breath the monster is weakest to.

I need that pic of the NBC Star "The More You Know" ;;

[Atoreis]

You actually can, using Threnody. At 90, Wyverns always use whatever breath the monster is weakest to.

See, this is a constructive thinking not crying!

@Darkmagi You are retard I you think not optimal = no use.. .