The Official Forums II: Out Here Grindin'

[Gannon]

Is it just me, or does that Ifrit in Kingfury's sig look like it's taking a dump? lol

[arus2001]

Before SE yoinked my posting privileges for deactivating for the summer, some of the melee RDMs finally started to concede the point that many RDMs out there don't give damn about hitting things with swords.

I got the impression they don't really mind that style for those who enjoy it along as it isn't the only option, which is unfortunately the case thanks to a combination of game mechanics and "my way or the highway" attitudes that lead to statements like Aur threw out about not caring about RDMs meleeing on things that don't matter, which basically translates to soloing or fucking around with weak quest mobs. I think you even preached similar and met hostility, and to be blunt, I can't fault them for not liking being told "No!" over and over and over for as long as this debate's been raging.

The core argument's pretty much hinged on efficiency, and I can't help but feel that if that wasn't the problem, nobody would give a shit. And some of them have come to a similar conclusion, but you still get people popping in saying something can't be done, it's too hard, overpowered, or whatever. So, in some part, those people are trolling the RDMs, but the joke's really on them if they genuinely think SE can't tweak some numbers and whip up a JA or two. They might not LIKE that notion, which is fine, but let's stop pretending some of you guys against the concept are partying with the PUG Hero Gimp every time you do something that "matters" in the game. I always thought the smart thing to do was to only do serious stuff with your friends or LS, both to guarantee shit gets done and you don't have to put up with loot drama.

[Karbuncle]

Same crap, different day from both sides of the fence.

At least Karb's tried an actual cooperative approach to them. Whether or not it's been done in sincerity, though, beats the fuck out of me anymore.

I actually enjoy RDM Melee, and wish it would get a boost. but at the same time, I'm a realist about it. I know it sucks, and i know a boost to RDM melee would be met with fierce oppression. So i know it will likely never happen.

I actually have a RDM melee build and i use it for what it should be used for, Dicking around with friends. It kinda sucks, I mean, my Eviscerations can hit some fun numbers, but its nothing close to my THFs output.

So its mostly sincere, as i said above, I wish melee RDM was more acceptable, but i can realistically see it sucks as a whole and any adjustments to improve it (Unless it was so severe it made RDM an actual good Melee) would be met with disdain.

[arus2001]

So its mostly sincere, as i said above, I wish melee RDM was more acceptable, but i can realistically see it sucks as a whole and any adjustments to improve it (Unless it was so severe it made RDM an actual good Melee) would be met with disdain.

My thoughts to these people? Fuck them. It's more or less a supplement to the closing of my last post in that these people shouldn't be harming your game as much as all the drama would imply. And in the off chance it did happen and the game was better for it?

[Byrthnoth]

The Staff thread has reached a new low point. I didn't think it was possible, which means this is the first time they've proven me wrong.

[Cail]

staff thread?

[Aurara]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...s-lack-utility

[ronin sparthos]

staff thread?

The Emp/Relic/Mythic staff thread.

[Mrbeansman]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...b-in-the-game.

These forums continue to amaze me. I got just about everything I could ever want for brd in this past years and then some and yet these people still aren't happy.

[Cail]

Usefulness of relic/myth/emp staves? oh boy...idk if i even wanna read it...

Edit: 51 pages? yea fuck that lol

[Karbuncle]

My thoughts to these people? Fuck them. It's more or less a supplement to the closing of my last post in that these people shouldn't be harming your game as much as all the drama would imply. And in the off chance it did happen and the game was better for it?

I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me.

But i think I agree with you :O

[Greatguardian]

Usefulness of relic/myth/emp staves? oh boy...idk if i even wanna read it...

Edit: 51 pages? yea fuck that lol

About 50 of those are split between SMN and how horrible it is, and how/why people should/shouldn't melee while playing SMN.

[bigrougabagel]

Why post when you can tags?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ers-yes-please

[Cail]

About 50 of those are split between SMN and how horrible it is, and how/why people should/shouldn't melee while playing SMN.

Ohhh thats the infamous melee smn thread? I've heard so much about you! Gonna go make an emp staff and then post about how useless it is cause smn melee is retarded

[Lovex]

RDM melee thread:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2gvmujk.jpg
Apparently RDM doesn't need MDT or PDT gearsets because it has stoneskin and phalanx.

omg.. that is by far the most trollish thing ive ever read... wtf? rdm isnt good melee because of evasion? I think I have a gif that sums this guy up pretty good. let me go dig a it up

edit: found it http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mCwIQCPp-W...ht-d30eobn.gif

[arus2001]

I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me.

But i think I agree with you :O

I guess bad wording on my part with using "these people" in succession. I'll rephrase...

My thoughts to those who would show disdain at a meaningful RDM melee update? Fuck them. It's more or less a supplement to the closing of my last post in that random PUG RDMs shouldn't be harming your game as much as all the drama would imply. And in the off chance such an update did happen and the game was better for it?

/destroyusall!

[Yugl]

The concept is called a "Suggestion Contest". Meaning that all submissions would be regarded as such, and SE wouldn't be "obligated" to implement anything. The fun of the contest would be in coming up with original ideas for the categories in question and "hoping" your suggestion gets picked.

Honestly read the second line as "Meaning that all submissions would be retarded, and as such, SE wouldn't be obligated to implement anything."

[Apelila]

The official forums have me itching to make a shit list V2 in advanced so bad. SO BAD. Especially considering that 90% of the original shit list is now fixed. Then, after gathering the results I would post them one at a time on the official forums to watch these retards say fun stuff like "I like that kindred seal's are hard to get, it makes the game more of a challenge. Black belt should take years for any MNK to get" or "Synergy is great, it's fun and rewarding and not in anyway a pain in the ass at all"

[Richybear]

RDM melee is still fun to mess around with.
Obviously it'll never be high-end DD, but it can be fun.
It's funny the comments people make when they hear my GF has an Almace and hasn't unlocked BLU or PLD though.
"Tell Shadow cg on 85 Almace! Is it for BLU?"
"Locked."
"PLD then?"
"See PLD statement."
"Oh."

Besides, she knows not to be all frontline about it, and plays usual RDM Haste/Refresh role unless her and I go somewhere just to duo or something.

[TybudX]

Honestly, RDM has the same native melee capabilities as BLU and COR. Neither of them has a DD trait or JA, but they do have access to good DD oriented gear and as such they are expected to provide DD when warranted. That's it. It's not like somebody trying to force melee SMN onto the world, where the only thing even remotely DD oriented about the job is the worst relic in the game and the worst Empyrean in the game, both of which have some of the worst WSs in the game, and are tacked on to the worst (non-ranged) weapon type in the game.

And Aurara... really, a big part of your argument is that there are too many gimps for RDM melee to be a good thing? Sounds suspiciously like the same argument people use against SMN burns, and now Abyssea exp. I'm not going to get involved in a melee RDM debate on the official forums because I feel it's a non-issue, but you really should try to sound a step above somebody from KI when you try to make a point.