The Official Forums II: Out Here Grindin'

[Shiyo]

@ Eeeks last post, that's exactly why I get such a gigantic headache whenever I try to read the general forums. Why would a brd /rdm, and why wouldn't you stack ballads AND refresh2 x_x

[Supersun]

The context was comparing Brd + Brd to Brd + Rdm where the first bard was already playing ballad 3 + 2. It was measuring how useful Ballad 1 is against Refresh II.

If you have 2x Brd it's not THAT much of a stretch for one of them to /rdm to relieve other people of having to refresh themselves especially as we draw closer to 99 where they can learn Cure IV and Haste from /rdm

[Gokku]

sob ive got a rdm from that thread whos willing to parse but cant get a healer / 2nd brd.

[Aurara]

The context was comparing Brd + Brd to Brd + Rdm where the first bard was already playing ballad 3 + 2. It was measuring how useful Ballad 1 is against Refresh II.

If you have 2x Brd it's not THAT much of a stretch for one of them to /rdm to relieve other people of having to refresh themselves especially as we draw closer to 99 where they can learn Cure IV and Haste from /rdm

na spells and erase are useless bro

[Supersun]

You don't need 3 people per party with them though. 2's plenty in all but the most extreme of scenarios.

[Gokku]

small update 30 mins of parse time in , doom's got a solid rdm. doing VT demons in dyna Xarc , rdm is out DDing the 2 avg abyssea geared players and is 30% behind me atm.

[Supersun]

Know his gearset?

[Karbuncle]

By Average Abyssea geared do you mean your typical Full perle/Aurore nooblets with outdated weapons?

[GoggleHead]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...with-PLD/page8

Numbers are subjective guys. Math is totally an opinion.

[Aurara]

inb4 Supersun starts flopping "RDM DD IS GOOD GAIZ" because of this

[Supersun]

You mean the person that openly admits that Whm and Brd are better?

Trust me, I know Rdm DD is at the lowest point it's ever been (in comparison to everyone else obviously)

[Aurara]

Well then, don't i look foolish

[Aksannyi]

Well, good is subjective. To some people back in the 75 days, 10k/hr for merits was good. To me, 20k minimum (and I do mean minimum) or bust. Subjective. Whether or not the general population agrees with your version of good is another story, but anyone can claim they're "good" and mean it when you take into account that everyone has their own version of what "good" is.

However, comparatively (meaning comparing one DD to another via parses), no. Numbers do not lie. But plenty of idiots might see certain numbers and think they're putting out great DD, while others will see their damage and consider them shit.

[Gokku]

15 mins left and yes i mean typical Full perle/Aurore nooblets with outdated weapons? but the blue isnt in FULL just... some of it? im basicly treatting them as base line dps. the rdm isnt perfect but i didnt give him much heads up.

how do you guys want this done i can MS paint the hell outta it , i have all DD's TP sets SS'd and then the parse itself.

[Aurara]

show us the TP sets and the parse, at least thats what i would like to see

[Gokku]

K heres everything





Personal notes , not sure why CDC shows up under ability damage also i see it as , the blu shows what a poorly geared players potential is vs a well geared one for the rdm vs the blu and then the war shows the diffrence vs my monk * both heavy dd classes*. with the most obvious gap being my monk to the redmage.
the parse was paused ASAP upon any DD's death * i died 3 times blu 2 times* and resumed as soon as i drew my wep after all dd's were unweakened.

any other questions.

[Supersun]

What were the buffs like?

[Aurara]

Does it matter?

[Gokku]

single brd 1 haste 1 mad, i eat meat * marbled steak* didnt see what the war/blu ate if anything and the rdm had a hedgehog pie on.

[Greatguardian]

1 March 1 Mad? Pretty huge advantage to the RDM there then too, considering you were capped acc and he was still hitting 90%~ with a Madrigal. 2x March would've probably made the gap significantly bigger.