Neo-Dynamis Changes

[NynJa]

That didnt answer the question, so I'll ask again:
A BST who belongs in the Gimp/Confused/wtv thread, can they enter and farm 100+ currency without breaking a sweat?
Can any other job geared like they belong in that thread farm 100+ currency without breaking a sweat?
Judging by a blu who posted here no less than a week ago...the answer is a big fuck no. Of course, they werent that smart about it...but regardless, it satisfies the criteria.

[dasva]

Ah boohoo a crappy bst can solo more than me I should take the mobs he is fighting since he has it so easy.

[NynJa]

Who said he's getting more than me? I could abyssea burn my mules to 95 bst, but really? 6 hours of dynamis a day..?

[Kayu]

then do it and stop bitching.

[NynJa]

orrrrr i'll just vulch from bsts who let shit go yellow then they can come "cry" D: D: D:

[ronin sparthos]

ITT: People being dicks just for the hell of it.

[Esvedium]

ITT: People being dicks just for the hell of it.

Yes. Beastmasters that try to kill 2 mobs at once while there are no more of that mob up are dicks.

And yes, I will gladly ws their mobs to death after they proc them. If they want to keep a mob claimed, they need to stop taking more than they can keep claim on. If someone takes "my" yellow mob, it's my own fault and I just move on.

[Kayu]

i guess it was the wrong place to even ask for courtesy around here xD ill just stay in JP time more profitable :D

damn salty people!

[ronin sparthos]

Yes. Beastmasters that try to kill 2 mobs at once while there are no more of that mob up are dicks.

And yes, I will gladly ws their mobs to death after they proc them. If they want to keep a mob claimed, they need to stop taking more than they can keep claim on. If someone takes "my" yellow mob, it's my own fault and I just move on.

Or perhaps your a dick for taking mobs that are being fought? Im not against taking mobs people wipe but you're basically just stealing cause your mad shit isn't up.

Don't pretty it up, you're just being a dick for the sake for being a dick.

[NynJa]

so a bst attemping to fight 2 mobs at once, who constantly have them go unclaimed, when there are no other mobs up, is ok?

why does the bst fight 2 mobs at once? Because the first mob is proced, and luly can solo it down while the bst works on the second, right? so its a time efficiency thing. How is me sitting around waiting for a repop watching this bst slowly dot 2 mobs down efficient on my part at all?


Why is it a douchebag move to steal a mob from someone that happens to go yellow? Because sometimes things go yellow for whatever reason, for example ONE person dies or get charmed, who was last person to act on it, and no one has acted on the mob since, so it goes yellow. Thats douchebaggery because the mob should not go yellow when there are other people who have acted on it who should have claim on it, there is no last claimers memory, its just last person to act on it. In this case, with bst's, one character can NOT have claim on 2 mobs at once, this isnt a game malfunction, this isnt ps2 limitation (or I guess it could be depending how you look at it)...one character can not hold claim on two mobs, so the fact the mob is pingponging between claimed and not is not a mishap. if the bst would focus on killing one at a time instead of trying to take more they can handle, there wouldnt be a problem.

2 BST/DNC claim a mob, spam steps/flourish to get proc then have their 2 pets dot it down while they work on another mob for proc...I dont think the mob would have time to go yellow between two pets attacking it, unless some really bad timing happens. and I dont think anyone here in the "fuck solo bst" crowd would be against it.

[ronin sparthos]

so a bst attemping to fight 2 mobs at once, who constantly have them go unclaimed, when there are no other mobs up, is ok?

why does the bst fight 2 mobs at once? Because the first mob is proced, and luly can solo it down while the bst works on the second, right? so its a time efficiency thing. How is me sitting around waiting for a repop watching this bst slowly dot 2 mobs down efficient on my part at all?

So starting a claim war is more time efficient? The repops aren't that long and you're merely bellyaching that someone beat you to a claim.

The BST could simply fight alongside Yuly and kill the mob that much faster, still leaving you with a situation of not enough mobs. But like I said we're looking for anything to be an open dick in XI at this point.

[dasva]

And the rationalizations keep coming. You know what's really efficient when you want to xp on something someone is cleaving. Diaga the mobs till they leave!!! Or wipe. I mean it's there fault for letting it go yellow

Boohoo this meany bst is taking a whole 2 mobs. It's soooooo many I can't can kill anything on my own and I have to be a dick. His fault really

[NynJa]

25 Hippos (since this is what it usually always comes down to) in a pretty large spawn area with 5 minute repop. its not as fast as you'd think, considering you've got a 20 minute window.

arent bst's the ones who pride on "fighting mobs no one wants to fight"? Instead of competing for the popular mob like douchebags, why dont THEY stop at kazham, pick up 2 stacks of that pachira fruit, and go fight sheep instead? They're allready investing "150k each stack" of lulzys, whats an extra 2k for poison fruit to dodge sleep?


how come its only the bsts who QQ abuit someone jacking their yellow mobs, everyone else its "my fault shoulda been smarter"

[ronin sparthos]

25 Hippos (since this is what it usually always comes down to) in a pretty large spawn area with 5 minute repop. its not as fast as you'd think, considering you've got a 20 minute window.

arent bst's the ones who pride on "fighting mobs no one wants to fight"? Instead of competing for the popular mob like douchebags, why dont THEY stop at kazham, pick up 2 stacks of that pachira fruit, and go fight sheep instead? They're allready investing "150k each stack" of lulzys, whats an extra 2k for poison fruit to dodge sleep?

Your argument rested on a BST taking 2 mobs at a time which seemed reasonable. Said person isn't trying to push you out like a cleave would nor are they going to be holding mobs very long if they're anything resembling an Abyssean-era BST (+2 gear, proper axes, WS set etc). Stealing in such a situation amounts to nothing less than open dickery based on a whole lotta umad.

Why would a BST go fight sheep when they not only slow but AOE sleep? Even you know that Sheep are a stupid example and you should have just said Cactuars if you were going to make up dumb shit. Instead of throwing your blocks like a kid cause someone claimed a mob, how about you show the base level of maturity and save the stealing for when people wipe? Too much? I know.

Two mobs isn't shit. Get back to me when someone is trying to grab all the mobs and force you out - the stealing would at least have some merit behind it.

[dasva]

Um probably because it's going yellow for totally different reasons. I'm sure if other peoples mobs when yellow on them all the time WHILE they were fighting it they would be pissed too.

The fact that you are most likely claiming and killing more makes your point even dumber. Really the bst should be pissed you killed all the mobs before they respawned.

[NynJa]

Why would a BST go fight sheep when they not only slow but AOE sleep?

Situation 1: Sheep is fighting Luly, BST eats poison fruit, Luly gets hit, Luly wakes up.
Situation 2: Sheep is fighting BST, Bst snarls, Luly gets hit, Luly wakes up.

I thought you were smarter than that...

Um probably because it's going yellow for totally different reasons. I'm sure if other peoples mobs when yellow on them all the time WHILE they were fighting it they would be pissed too.

Except its going yellow because one person is trying to keep two mobs claimed at once...which is impossible.

[Darkmagi]

Just clarifying, no one is being a dick for the sake of being a dick, people are being a dick in order to increase their currency yield. Pretty big difference.

[Kayu]

Situation 1: Sheep is fighting Luly, BST eats poison fruit, Luly gets hit, Luly wakes up.
Situation 2: Sheep is fighting BST, Bst snarls, Luly gets hit, Luly wakes up.

I thought you were smarter than that...



Except its going yellow because one person is trying to keep two mobs claimed at once...which is impossible.

we dont choose yuli only because the TH but the eva i am sure mob will have to attack severeal times before waking it up in the end you still asleep and it gives slow wich slow yuli down.

and using bassically a poison food really? why i would fight a mob no ones does? thats sooooo 2005 if you havent notice bsts now figth everymob that a pet can handle wich is almost everything in abby and some in old content

edit: no they just want to profit from someone else work waiting for something to go yellow al low hp to one shot it wich is very different form stealing a mob from start unstaggered.

[Deader2818]

In my experience, most people that say they dont bitch when a yellow mob is taken from them, do in fact, bitch.

[Kipling]

Just clarifying, no one is being a dick for the sake of being a dick, people are being a dick in order to increase their currency yield. Pretty big difference.

Exactly. If someone isn't interfering with my farming I have no reason to hinder theirs. However, when they start to cause my currency average to decline by taking multiple mobs.. action must be taken.