Neo-Dynamis Changes

[NynJa]

edit: no they just want to profit from someone else work waiting for something to go yellow al low hp to one shot it wich is very different form stealing a mob from start unstaggered.

So, youre saying that instead of trying to claim mobs, people are sitting around waiting for a bst to pull a second mob just to attempt to vulch it...WOW.

we dont choose yuli only because the TH but the eva i am sure mob will have to attack severeal times before waking it up in the end you still asleep and it gives slow wich slow yuli down.

do one dynamis run with TH3 luly and one run with TH0 whatever else and show me how much currency you get. And try to track how many mobs you kill, because I'm expecting a "I kill more with yuly"...


and the poison "food" isnt actually a food effect, retardo.

[Shizznight]

Call me a dick if you want to, but when there are several BST all holding 3 or more mobs and there is nothing else up I will take one of theirs. If you can't keep mobs claimed then they don't belong to you. I think that is fair.

If you're going to be greedy and pull 3 mobs 'because you can' then don't get upset when I pull one of them because there isn't anything else to fight 'because I can'.

[Kayu]

yay another good day 172 currency solo and no one was a dick!

[Kensagaku]

Call me a dick if you want to, but when there are several BST all holding 3 or more mobs and there is nothing else up I will take one of theirs. If you can't keep mobs claimed then they don't belong to you. I think that is fair.

If you're going to be greedy and pull 3 mobs 'because you can' then don't get upset when I pull one of them because there isn't anything else to fight 'because I can'.

See, this I can agree with. If there's no other mobs a BST should know that they're going to get sniped because of claim mechanics. If anything, it's unwise to go after a heavily-camped group simply because you leave so many options for mob steals when spawns run out. But if there's other mobs around, and you're not suddenly hoarding monsters, then it's just a dick move for anyone to take the mobs you have. It's simple and pure selfishness if you literally can't walk ten more steps to the next unclaimed mob.

[Byrthnoth]

I hate to be a dick in Dynamis, but I have friends trying to sell me plates and I need to make gil. Last night I frustrated someone to the point that they warped out. We were playing the sleep-one-ahead game and they moved on to the next without finishing their current, so I finished it for them with Banish II. Outclaim a few more times, show up at their next camp and kill from the middle of the monster group outwards instead of from the opposite side in. Apparently that was enough.

They cost me about 10 bronze, so my sympathy for them is limited.

[Corresapolonia]

I hate to be a dick in Dynamis, but I have friends trying to sell me plates and I need to make gil. Last night I frustrated someone to the point that they warped out. We were playing the sleep-one-ahead game and they moved on to the next without finishing their current, so I finished it for them with Banish II. Outclaim a few more times, show up at their next camp and kill from the middle of the monster group outwards instead of from the opposite side in. Apparently that was enough.

They cost me about 10 bronze, so my sympathy for them is limited.

need gil? chocobo blinkers is all i have to say

[Darkmagi]

Yeah, no.

[Byrthnoth]

Farming 40 million Cruor? I'm not up for it. Shit, I'm having trouble making myself go farm enough to upgrade Atmacites.

[Raffi_XI]

Of those defending the not killing of yellow mobs, how many of you did sandy farming before COP zones and see another group get charmed by an NM and steal the NM from them?

Also, there are camps that can hold 2 small groups and 1 small group. I've yet to see a camp that can hold 3+ groups. Its when the third (or 2nd in a small camp) comes in and tries to take over your camp when most of this stealing goes on. It's a shame people don't check zones before they enter. If a zone has more than 5 "groups" (solo counts as 1 "group") my party doesn't go in. We only have trouble when others enter after us and try to steal our camp. On Asura most of the people seem to stick to just one zone for some reason. It's like no one knows how to do a different zone and will enter when there are already 10+ people in a zone.

On a side note, dipper is mainly used for TH and evasion for 2nd. If the sheep had TH id use that over dipper any day. Sheep hits harder than dipper, can sleepga, and tons of hp. If you go solo as a bst you are pretty much forced to use dipper to have any sort of chance of getting more than 50 currency. If you go with a thf, use the tiger. hobs is a beast! (horrible joke) It tears through everything. Bst + Thf duo (with no competition on mobs) can easily pull out 400+ coins.

[NynJa]

yay another good day 172 currency solo and no one was a dick!

Do that with nazuna now?

[macross]

You act as if there's only one camp per time block. Bite the bullet and kill some other crap. might be harder but at least you dont waste time looking for mobs.

[Kayu]

Do that with nazuna now?

read the post above yours, and i dont wanna waste a day i will keep doing a shitload of currency :D

[jimbobsonofgod]

You act as if there's only one camp per time block. Bite the bullet and kill some other crap. might be harder but at least you dont waste time looking for mobs.

this x2
Instead of you shitting up not only your coin count but the coin count of others you're camping against, it will always benefit you to move camps and fight different mobs. And for the love of god, check zones before you enter.

[NynJa]

read the post above yours, and i dont wanna waste a day i will keep doing a shitload of currency :D

You're the one who said you dont use Luly for TH...?

And Macross...Sabotenders with 3, KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY enough said.


and I bit the bullet, tried the EM/T mobs for fun in valkurm. DNC/XXX THF/NIN RDM/WHM, did Flytraps/Hippos/Treants. Flytraps and Treants werent so bad, but there is no safe place to camp if you want to do Hippogryphs, absolutely none. Flytraps you can atleast camp where Fairy Ring used to spawn, Treants has that huge open area, but Hippos gonna fuck you up with inevitable adds. Proc rate is not higher on EM/T mobs, I backtanked a bunch at low hp waiting for proc. Hoof Volley, instead of usually missing, hits up to 700-800 dmg. I wound up staggering/killing 63 mobs with 1 wipe near the end, despite getting thru stats really fast...whereas yesterday WITH competition I wound up staggering/killing 150, but I fucked up on stats pretty bad (took close to 30 min cuz 20m stat was camped by 2 quads so I died yaaaay).

Maybe a group of 6 would have better luck with EM/T, or if I scrapped the dnc/xxx and put her on vere mnk or maschu+2 war to rape shit after proc, but the setup I had trying for white...oh right, white proc doesnt seem to be any higher there either...anyways, the setup I had wasnt really set for EM/T mobs.


as far as currency distribution:
2 3 3 4 2 4 3 2 2 2 3 4 2 3 3 2 3 4 2 4 3 2 4 2 2 2 3 2 4 2 2 3 4 3 2 3 4 3 3 4 3 2 2 3 3 3 2 3 2 1 3 4 3 4 4 2 3 3 2 3 3 3 2 3

no 5's all killed with TH6+, and I dont know why that 1 snuck in. If there was a better camp for hippos, it wouldnt be so bad...the other shit thing about the EM/T mobs, theyre all spaced out in other areas.

If SE replaced the placement of sheep and hippos, it would be nice :D

[jimbobsonofgod]

If you are picking zones where you are forced to chose EM Mobs, then might I suggest picking another zone, or not doing dynamis when there is 10+ people in all 3 zones (or more then 1 in tav)

[Soho]

and I bit the bullet, tried the EM/T mobs for fun in valkurm. DNC/XXX THF/NIN RDM/WHM, did Flytraps/Hippos/Treants.

If you're doing the higher mobs to the far West, the better rotation in there is Funguar > Sheep > Treants. There are safe camps for all three and they make a nice little triangle (not much running when time switches).

[Shizznight]

this x2
Instead of you shitting up not only your coin count but the coin count of others you're camping against, it will always benefit you to move camps and fight different mobs. And for the love of god, check zones before you enter.

One camp can comfortably support several people. What it cannot support is several people all holding 3-4 mobs at a time. It is much faster, safer and smarter to just kill one at a time, links are excused of course. The faster they die the faster they repop so you're not all just standing around twiddling thumbs.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate on BST. It was my first job to 75 back in the day. I just think that as a BST they should know that even if no one is sniping you, it is faster for you to kill them one at a time and you come off as less of a d-bag.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Hey don't get me wrong either I don't pull that proc 1 kill one shit in any camp that doesn't have enough mobs to support the players. I try to avoid camping against people at all costs. Now if only that shit caught on.
I saw a trio pass up 3 people in qufim island and instead added their numbers to the 9 already in valkrum dunes.
I just don't get it. No way are they going to pull in more currency making and already overcrowded camp worse instead of having free reign of any camp combination they wanted in qufim.

[Atoreis]

If you are picking zones where you are forced to chose EM Mobs, then might I suggest picking another zone, or not doing dynamis when there is 10+ people in all 3 zones (or more then 1 in tav)

Yeah sure I have 5h window after i come back from work to make salvage and dynamis before LS event. What you gonna suggest if all 3 zones have more than 10 ppl? Skip dynamis that day ( If you say yes, I hope it will be a joke)? We really trying hard to do mobs that ppl usually do less (sheeps/manticores/flys in valkurm instead of hippo/something/funguars) but thats all we can do. I will take every yellow mob I see, especially from JPs.

[Kayu]

One camp can comfortably support several people. What it cannot support is several people all holding 3-4 mobs at a time. It is much faster, safer and smarter to just kill one at a time, links are excused of course. The faster they die the faster they repop so you're not all just standing around twiddling thumbs.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate on BST. It was my first job to 75 back in the day. I just think that as a BST they should know that even if no one is sniping you, it is faster for you to kill them one at a time and you come off as less of a d-bag.

sometimes this bite you in the ass, since you have to heel the pet so it doesnt die to ja stagger having 2 is the preffered since pet is just bouncing around hell i even have troubles sometimes staggering 1 mob or 2 so i have to tell the pet to stop attacking and i am spamming violent and box step, animated is kinda stupid to use unless you can to beat someone to claim. but overall its fine to have 1 or 2.

oh yeah today i went duo with a friend bst 145 coins each :D cant wait to my other friend to finish lvling his bst so we can trio and bassically control the camp even if we pull one mob at the time we can do it!