Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Byrthnoth]

i'm getting even less then a panda duo O.o

Well, two of me (and two of my mule) hunting two separate monster populations in the same party at the same time would probably pull that many coins. There would have to be no one else in zone for me to really get away with it, though.

[Foldypaws]

Yeah, that's the thing. I've found that each additional person adds less and less if you stay at the same mobs.

Solo, I get 170ish as DNC/THF. Duo, we'll pull 280ish for 140 each. Trio and we get maybe 360 for 120 each.... etc. Four people we get maybe 440...

We did 6 once, split up into two groups and managed to pull 750 or so, which is like twice a trio.

[macross]

I avg 360 a day normally, well a little higher i'm sure. Was 360 over a month, with the first few days pretty shitty. 420 with 3 is high for me, I normally don't break 400.

The main thing is i do far away camps so I lose out on coins from the travel time. But I avoid competition that way.
Today there was only one other guy so I did closer camps thus the 420.

I use 1 great dnc/ one gimp dnc/ one gimp bst/dnc. Avg around 24 seconds to proc and kill a mob, from my kparser parses, and kill arond 180 a day or so. The dps isn't that high, but I'm going for the lucky whites.

Dunes camps are pretty spread out, the best time is shell time, since 3 easy to farm camps. Bronze is cockblocked cause everyone does hippos, and sheep are really far. bynes are usually done in 2 camps, flys and funguar. I do the fly traps no one kills cause they are gay and do sporific.
I do the cactuar or sheep, cause usually no one does them. You can't really solo mobs that do 4k needles etc. From the layout it looks like bubu is far superior, and theres nm and dragons you can kill for easy 100s too. So even if theres 15 in the zone, I usualy have enough stuff to kill.

[Aja]

Is it possible to tribox Mildaunegeux for attestation? Jobs could be MNK(Vere), WAR(Ukon), NIN(Kannagi), THF, or DNC. Second char WAR(Ukon), MNK, or THF. Third would be WHM.

[keitari]

Is it possible to tribox Mildaunegeux for attestation? Jobs could be MNK(Vere), WAR(Ukon), NIN(Kannagi), THF, or DNC. Second char WAR(Ukon), MNK, or THF. Third would be WHM.

I did it with Thf, Whm and Mnk. It wasn't very difficult at all. I was the monk. I have WoE (NQ) knuckles. You should be fine.

[Draylo]

Don't forget a lot of people like to over exaggerate, I've asked many people if they could explain how they consistently avg 500+ a run with 3 people and they don't respond. Nobody cares you boast a high number unless you can back it up. That said, after gathering info from few people I avg mostly 350 a run with 5, me and a friend and three mules. We go DNC/nothing, BLU/DNC, THF/DNC RDM/SCH WHM/RDM.

[Aja]

I did it with Thf, Whm and Mnk. It wasn't very difficult at all. I was the monk. I have WoE (NQ) knuckles. You should be fine.

Sounds great, what kind of sub jobs did you use? I guess Hundred Fists/Perfect Dodge/Mijin Gakure, shadows won't do me much good anyways.

[Raffi_XI]

What do you want to know? My group consistently averages: 350-400 with 2, 550-600 with 3, 700-800 with 4, and each additional person +100-150. We average on the lower end of those values when people enter after us and camp on top of us.

Here is what goes on, in lets say dunes with a group of 4 that we normally go as: Bst/dnc (guttler), Thf/dnc (Lux Pugio/Oynos), Sam/X (Amano/Quint Spear), Dnc/X (Twashtar/OA2-4).

First thing we do is get TEs. I as bst, go and get #5, Sam goes and gets one and thf and dancer get another. By the time #5 is dead the other two are as well. I go and grab another TE and sam gets another and thf and dnc finish off the last. Next we go to our camps. For Dunes lets say its byne time. If there is no one at funguar I will go with the thf and dnc and us 3 will kill funguar. If there is someone soloing funguar I will split off and go to flys by myself while the thf and dnc do funguar. Meanwhile the sam does goobues with ws proccing. Next, me, the thf, and dnc move to hippos while sam does funguar. Usually hippos are full so we pull orcs too. After that we move to goobues and sam does hippos etc. We keep cycling that way. We just let all drops fall until the last 5 mins in which we QM whoever has most inventory room.

Mules really don't add much value outside of extra curing. There is a reason why I say any real person, not mule should minimally be getting 100 coins, 150 decent geared and 200 well geared. Unless you are an extraordinarily good dual boxer, 2 boxing on EP mobs is meh. We never include mules in quota since it is pretty hard for them to be 100% productive like a real player. For you Draylo to get 350 with 2 people and a pocket TH and pocket healers, that's decent. Don't sell yourself short. Others are getting more most likely due to competition issues and/or TE placement and/or luck with 4-5 coin droppers.

[Aja]

260-300 triboxing sounds decent then? Or should I be getting more?

[Raffi_XI]

260-300 triboxing is good. If you replace the 2 mules with 2 real players and Pooled the currency you'd make double that. Pooling currency and building relics for people vs individual splits is a whole different can of worms to debate about

[Aja]

My friend and I are each making relics, but he works too late to join me 95% of the time so I end up triboxing with his char as well. I don't think we've done a run yet where he has been there the entire time. But we are working on my weapon first and then his later, so I think I can finish mine up by Christmas at the latest.

[keitari]

Sounds great, what kind of sub jobs did you use? I guess Hundred Fists/Perfect Dodge/Mijin Gakure, shadows won't do me much good anyways.

Sorry, my girlfriend corrected me after I posted. Our setup was Bst/Dnc, Mnk/Dnc, and Whm/Rdm (not Thf/Dnc). The Bst went and solo'd TE 5 while me and my g/f went and killed the other 4. Then we met up at the ramp towards TE 5 and farmed all three pop items there from the surrounding/corresponding Hydra.

We popped 3 Mildgeneaux (sp). I only died once from Hundred Fists when my girlfriend was a little slow on the cures and I was out of TP. But the Bst was fine anyway while I recovered. Mijin Gakure was negligible. Perfect Dodge was just an annoyance (as usual).

Dropped 2 knuckle tests, and 1 katana. Hope that helps.

[macross]

You guys should bring blu, and sudden lunge monks.

Every real person should pull in 150-200 coins. Triboxing I normally get at least 350 though, 260-300 sounds low. My worst run was 288, due to wiping to quadav TE and took 30min + to get all 5 tes.

Really need to track how many kills per run, and how many coins you get per kill, to determine if you're doing great or bad. Somedays you might kill 200 mobs, but only get 2.0 drop rate, other days kill 180 but 2.4 drop rate and it will seem better. 420 last night, drop rates were high, so I got way over my avg 360, even though i still kill around the same # of mobs. I wonder if moon phase affects shit at all!

[Julian]

So I'm just curious, since people are talking about bsts or 3boxing and all that. I'm wondering what would be the most efficient way for me to farm coins. <_<

I have 3 characters, and I can 3box decently. One has all jobs 90/95, vereth/kannagi/ukon/masa only possibly relevant empy's. I can level any job necessary on the mules without too much work, but skilling them up is gonna be a bitch. Gearing somewhat annoying also, I guess.

Right now, I usually run nin/dnc, rdm/blm(sleepga, tractor when i do stupid shit that gets me killed), and whm/thf. I'm thinking maybe just level thf fully on one of the mules, having it assist my nin and spam JAs shouldn't be too difficult, then have the 3rd one just be a haste/cure whore. If I grab a thf maybe go on mnk instead of nin for faster killing? Or maybe even WAR?

How would that setup be, compared to say, just soloing as BST? I don't have much play time, so I can't really do 2hourx3 every day. But soloing instead of taking all 3 characters has extra benefits of less stress, and I can do it even if my bf is playing on one of the other two characters. >.> Or, I guess, even taking all 3 in as BST? Would only need Yuly on one of them, and can use sheep or w/e on the rest. Actually 3boxing that should be easy enough, but idk how proc speed would go vs kill speed.

I guess I should just experiment around and see what works best for me. Only thing is that I would have to actually level some jobs for some of these hypotheticals. <_<

[macross]

BST is just strong cause it's like having 2 people. Plus it makes farming TE very easy. Fighting EP on pets let them hit for around 300 dmg a swing so the dps is quite high. You + pet should outdmg any dnc or thief. Then you have a pet that comes with TH, and can evade tank. Plus since you plan on 3 boxing, it's not too hard to just send pet for some easy auto attacking dps.

Anyhow, shouldn't take you more than a day or two to lvl your mules to 95. I'd just take them both bst with you on mnk/dnc perhaps, prob easiest 3 box. Only problem could be killing the monsters too fast before you proc lol.

[vagus]

BST is just strong cause it's like having 2 people.

This pretty much sums it up.

Bst/Dnc/Thf would also work Julian if you're trio-boxing. Just get rampage gear for bst.

[Julian]

Yeah, one of my mules already has bst 92, other one I just leveled to 10 today, gonna try to 90+ it sometime this week. Only problem is that neither of them will really have any gear, or axe skill. I'm thinking of doing some magian axes, would pdt axes be the way to go, or are the evasion ones also good since yuly is so evasive?

[shepardG]

So got the bug again, and im 10 100's and 2 jade's away from a loan. I missed most/all the info on the new dreamlands so was wondering if someone could point me to the section of the thread I would start reading at or, even better, a good wiki.
Im probably gonna solo up the last 1200 on bst, and was wondering if I should stick to basting and windy or head to one of the new zones. Also can a 95 bst solo his atest and fragment?

[Byrthnoth]

Dualboxed:


Can to has prize?

[Scrooge]

Right now, I usually run nin/dnc, rdm/blm(sleepga, tractor when i do stupid shit that gets me killed), and whm/thf. I'm thinking maybe just level thf fully on one of the mules, having it assist my nin and spam JAs shouldn't be too difficult, then have the 3rd one just be a haste/cure whore.

This isn't really necessarily aimed at you directly, but it baffles my mind, why like 95% of people I see boxing today insist of bringing a WHM or RDM to heal. You're fighting nothing but EPs, you can almost survive forever on Signet and Regen II. Box a BRD instead, you can main heal, Haste, March and Lullaby shit on one character. And frankly, even if you were fighting ITs, BRDs can heal more than well enough with Cure IV anyway.

In your case, if you're gonna bother lvl'ing THF, level THF and a BRD, go THF/DNC + BRD/WHM, and you'd probably do better two boxing that combo, that triple boxing your existing setup. Alternatively, if you don't mind triple boxing, NIN/THF, QuintSpear SAM, and BRD/WHM will most definitely do far better than what you're using now. With the added benefit of not having to get cock blocked out of JA phases. Of course, you could also use DNC/nothing and compete against BSTs, that's always an option too, I just don't think it's the optimal one when you're a box'er.