Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Soho]

Prices are starting to drop on Leviathan as well (8.5k Bynes and Shells, 9.5k Bronze and starting to see more and more even cheaper than that).

Even though I plan to do a Relic myself, I've been selling all of my currency for the time being because I'm assuming it's got further to go before bottoming out.

I realize that it won't continue to drop forever just because the zones will only support X many people in there farming per day. Do you think we're reaching the saturation point or is there still a ways to go?

Do you guys see 5k-6k as being likely or do you think we are close to maxing out the zones' potential already?

[Mikus]

How much currency can you pull in a city zone with a trio?

My group recently did Jeuno to get a friend the win. We used 2x bst, thf/dnc, blu/dnc. Take 5-10 minutes out for boss and we got around 200 currency. We killed 7-10 NMs, forget exactly how many, and no 100s. We've toyed with going back to cities just because of the pure annoyance of people lately in CoP.

Siren prices roughly are: 8k bynes 9k t.shells 10.5k-11k Obronze.

[Kensagaku]

Prices are pretty steady on Valefor right now, we seem to have hit a sort of balance that's been maintained for a while, with Bynes at 9k, Shells and Bronze at 10-11k. I know I plopped myself down in Ru'Lude last night with my cut of the currency in shells and bynes (my friend buys the bronze off of me to finish his Aegis) and sold all of it within... what, an hour? So demand is still great for good prices here.

Also cities are fun sometimes. We were working on getting our shell leader his Relic Sword (he already had currency for up to Stage 4 Excalibur, I think? He's getting it simply for completionism) and we went to Windy with four: THF/DNC, PLD/DNC, BRD/WHM, WHM/SCH. BRD was boring as hell until I pulled out my Twilight Knife and Genbu's shield and started stabbing things with 2% haste from Sha'ir Manteel (didn't bring the rest of my Haste set). We got lucky with two of the NMs dropping 100s, and I think we ended at ~400ish currency as a result. It was a beautiful run, and it allowed me to reminisce about dia'ing a group's SMN NM's avatar back in the day. I'm terrible sometimes too. xD

[DmS]

Apologize if this has already been posted. I was doing dyn - quifm today with a friend and @10mins remaining decided to do nightmare tigers. Right as the game clock turned 0800, I started casting utsusemi: ni and one of two tigers I had staggered. Is this normal or was it a glitch?

[Skeelo]

if you have a dot on it, once it turns magic proc time, it can proc.

[DmS]

Oh nevermind, forgot about blaze spikes on ninja chainmail sry. I didn't see the animation so I didn't think about that.

[Worlace]

Prices are pretty steady on Valefor right now, we seem to have hit a sort of balance that's been maintained for a while, with Bynes at 9k, Shells and Bronze at 10-11k. I know I plopped myself down in Ru'Lude last night with my cut of the currency in shells and bynes (my friend buys the bronze off of me to finish his Aegis) and sold all of it within... what, an hour? So demand is still great for good prices here.

Also cities are fun sometimes. We were working on getting our shell leader his Relic Sword (he already had currency for up to Stage 4 Excalibur, I think? He's getting it simply for completionism) and we went to Windy with four: THF/DNC, PLD/DNC, BRD/WHM, WHM/SCH. BRD was boring as hell until I pulled out my Twilight Knife and Genbu's shield and started stabbing things with 2% haste from Sha'ir Manteel (didn't bring the rest of my Haste set). We got lucky with two of the NMs dropping 100s, and I think we ended at ~400ish currency as a result. It was a beautiful run, and it allowed me to reminisce about dia'ing a group's SMN NM's avatar back in the day. I'm terrible sometimes too. xD

It was me

I will finish my excalibur before him!

[Esvedium]

if you have a dot on it, once it turns magic proc time, it can proc.

Spikes can proc in magic time? How did I miss that?!?

[Kipling]

In regards to the previous post about attestation pops:

We spent 3 dyna trying to get enough attest pops for my friend's axe. You just need to find a decent camp is the real trick. Not sure what one you are after, we ended up doing the lake where dagger nm is etc. Might be chance, but we saw that proc'd hydras dropped them much more often so we just had to go out of our way to proc every hydra before killing and we eventually got it after like 7 kills. They are just shitty overall. Seemed to us as if thf and procs are a must.

[Eldelphia]

In regards to the previous post about attestation pops:

We spent 3 dyna trying to get enough attest pops for my friend's axe. You just need to find a decent camp is the real trick. Not sure what one you are after, we ended up doing the lake where dagger nm is etc. Might be chance, but we saw that proc'd hydras dropped them much more often so we just had to go out of our way to proc every hydra before killing and we eventually got it after like 7 kills. They are just shitty overall. Seemed to us as if thf and procs are a must.

Ohh thanks for this. We need shield and soon as we're about halfway through stage 4. Eventually we'll need the horn too but we're getting this done first.

[Aja]

And yeah, with pet foods and some Mulsums, you can solo them (attestations), they don't have what it takes to 1 shot your pet.

What pet did you use? Would 2 90BSTs be able to do this? We don't really have any pet PDT gear.

[dasva]

I did mine with dipper for TH. It depops pet when you pop it which kinda suprised me. At the time the only pet gear I had was dual axes and af3+2 legs. Thing had horrible acc vs dipper. For the most part I didn't even really need pet food until it chain spelled. And 1 food and 1 muslum kept it at max hp partly due to it not uses nukes each time. So depending on which one you do keep a few muslums just in case. Killed in I'd say 7-9 min solo as 95bst/40dnc (yeah I know lvl my subjob) didn't kill pet once. So 2 bst should kill them pretty easy.

[dasva]

Ohh thanks for this. We need shield and soon as we're about halfway through stage 4. Eventually we'll need the horn too but we're getting this done first.

Yeah helps me too I guess I'll check dagger camp. I'm actually done with all the currency for shield. Well except the last 30 but I'm like halfway thru that too just damn attestations are pissing me off.

[Aja]

Does it depop all pets, or only the person that pops the NM? I have to do the MNK/THF/NIN one, but I think I'll give this a try next time.

[Skeelo]

Spikes can proc in magic time? How did I miss that?!?

I didnt say spikes proc, i said if you have a dot on it before magic proc time. and it turns magic time, the dot can proc it.

[Esvedium]

I didnt say spikes proc, i said if you have a dot on it before magic proc time. and it turns magic time, the dot can proc it.

And the guy you were responding to didn't say anything about DoT on it, just spikes on his afbody. I quoted the wrong person. My bad.

So if you have a DoT on the mob, say Poison, that lands before it switches to magic time, are you saying that it has a chance to proc right as time changes if that DoT is still on? ...or did I totally misunderstand this whole train of the conversation?

[dasva]

Does it depop all pets, or only the person that pops the NM? I have to do the MNK/THF/NIN one, but I think I'll give this a try next time.

No idea I was solo. Offensively other than having 3 2hrs it actually seemed weaker than the Eps around it. Missed me a few times before I got dipper on it for example

[Aja]

No idea I was solo. Offensively other than having 3 2hrs it actually seemed weaker than the Eps around it. Missed me a few times before I got dipper on it for example

Ahh, right, forgot you said you were solo. I'll try popping it with my WHM alt then and see what happens!

[Raffi_XI]

For the magic DOT staggers when time changes, does it proc right when the time changes or does each tick of DOT give the mob a chance to stagger? Like lets say I cast bio on a mob and run around for a while, can it randomly proc after each tick of damage? Or is it just when the time changes to magic stagger mode?

[NynJa]

for tav -1's: I remember they used to be separated by mob (pld body would only drop from clusters for example), is that still the case, or can any leg dropper drop any -1? Presumably the same for bodies...

Judging by this today though:
[23:26:44]yYou find a pair of mirage shalwar -1
on the Nightmare Worm.
[23:36:30]yYou find a pair of mirage shalwar -1
on the Nightmare Hornet.

I think any leg dropper drops anything, just getting a second opinion tho.