Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Sechs]

We got 38 touches in valkurm off the DC mobs. Upgraded THF hands and the next trial is 20,000 xp in tavnazia or xarcabard.

Do the Stage2 augments get ADDED to the Stage1 Relic+2 stats, or do they take the place of something?

Still pondering how worth it would be to upgrade from NQ AF2 to AF2+1. Seems the drop rate on Forgotten items is not too bad? Or am I being too optimistic?

[Sechs]

Does the item have to be equipped? That would be terrible.

Would be kinda too easy if you didn't have to keep it equipped, you could activate like 5 trials together and get the 20k points on another job... so yeah, I'm afraid you'll have to keep the item equipped.

[InsaniacTHF]

I wasn't with the group that was in xarc if that's what you are asking. It was Forgotten Hopes(bodies) that they were getting in xarc. I have no idea what camp they were at. If you're asking about my run I was in Qufim and all the EP nightmare mobs and beastmen dropped but it was low. I don't parse the runs but I left with 260 currency so I would guess I killed 130ish mobs and got 6 total Forgotten Journeys(legs). It's actually kinda smart the way they set it up. If you are after +2s and you have the means you clearly should be killing DCs but if you don't have the means you still have the option of killing EPs. I imagine a few of the regulars will move on to DCs at least until the prices bottom out on the memories. I was afraid dynamis would be ruined by this but it really looks like they thought this one through.

[Apelila]

20k XP sounds like a lot but it really isn't. Get a Merit Party and get to slaughtering high level stuff, it goes fast AND you get currency. Win-Win.

[InsaniacTHF]

I failed.

[Byrthnoth]

20k XP sounds like a lot but it really isn't. Get a Merit Party and get to slaughtering high level stuff, it goes fast AND you get currency. Win-Win.

Everything in those zones is DC now, isn't it? It's at least two runs worth fulltiming THF AF2+2 hands. Might make sense to get multiple pieces and be a full-AF2+2 using group who does 3 or 4 runs instead.

Where are people getting these trials? I can't seem to find them on the moogle.

[Sechs]

I checked them by trading the related AF2 piece. The odd part was that the trial wasn't giving me a "resulting trial" for the stage2, it was saying "none", as if there were no other trial after the stage1.

One thing I'm wondering about AF2+2, most (all?) pieces from the JP datamine had the job specific enhancements/augments updated. There was "Augments Call beast II" for Monster's Gloves+2, or "Courtly Measure II" for BRD AF2 legs and "Enhances Meditate II" on Saotome Tekko +2 etc.
In the English description the majority of this just went away, only a few pieces mantain that tier system. For example Melee Gloves +2 have "Enhances Chakra III", whereas normal Melee Gloves/+1 got updated from "Enhances Chakra" to "Enhances Chakra II".
Same thing happened for BST AF2 body and a couple more items.

What I'm wondering is: where did those enhanced augments/enhancements go? They've never been there to begin with and it was just a translation error from the JP dats, or is it just the fault of SE localization team who decided to homogeneize them all even if the effects got updated? If it's the latter, how can we tell which ones have enhanced effects over normal AF2 and which ones are just the same? Wondering if there is something that can or has already been datamined from yesterday's patch concerning these aspects.

[Xyphe]

I had to trade relic pieces to the armor moogle to see the trials, i couldnt find any other way to look them up otherwise. Though im sure most know already, but for those that dont its 50 of a specific Forgotten item from going to NQ -> +2, and 30 for +1 -> +2. The corresponding Forgotten items work this way i believe: Thoughts = Head, Hope = Body, Touches = hands, Legs = Journey, Steps = Feet.

[arus2001]

Are the upgrade items EX?

[Magitek]

Nope, you can bazaar them, and they also stack.

[arus2001]

Hmm, takes some sting out of the process, Guess the rest depends on how many people will wind up averaging per run and eventual market saturation.

[Eldelphia]

Don't mind me, I messed up and hit a page back >.>

[arus2001]

Well, there's still the old school method of +1'ing a relic by getting the -1 and other things with Sagheera, but I think she still has the week/conquest wait. If you have that, though, the resulting trial is only 30 of a given item instead 50. That in mind, it'd probably be more beneficial for people to farm in CoP zones if they don't have the +1 since you could maybe get -1s for things you'd eventually upgrade and save yourself time/money later.

[Eldelphia]

So using thf hands as an example... I have the +1, I'd need 30 forgotten xxx and then 20k xp somewhere?

[Helel]

The magian moogle does not display the augments for stage 2 right now, but you can still get the trial. Also, all dynamis mobs are now DC or lower so you can no longer create xp chains. It would have actually been easier to do these trials back at 95. I guess you can use anniversary ring though? Dunno, I'll do xarcabard tomorrow and see what happens. Tavnazia is going be retardedly packed with it's 20 mobs in there >.>.

[Nyerieri]

Has anyone found where Forgotten Thoughts drop yet?

[Solrain]

So using thf hands as an example... I have the +1, I'd need 30 forgotten xxx and then 20k xp somewhere?

Yep, 30 Forgotten Touches if you're going +1 > +2 and 50 Forgotten Touches if you're going from NQ > +2. The 20k XP isn't part of that trial, though.

[Apelila]

It would have actually been easier to do these trials back at 95.

Leave a job at 95, Lock it on Merit mode. Level sync, taadaa!

God dammit I dont want to do that for lol dynamis!

A valid point. If your doing this with a group, someone is bound to have a job that they only cart out when necessary that can be the level sync bitch.

[Helel]

Leave a job at 95, Lock it on Merit mode. Level sync, taadaa!



A valid point. If your doing this with a group, someone is bound to have a job that they only cart out when necessary that can be the level sync bitch.

Great idea actually. @95 we could get a cap of 148 (with chain 5+). Today, the most was like 61 or something. That was with 3 peeps. I know we always got at least 20k back @95 because we always ended up with 2-3 merits by the end. Sucks SE was stupid enough not to make the mobs con at least EM to 99.

[Kayu]

Yep, 30 Forgotten Touches if you're going +1 > +2 and 50 Forgotten Touches if you're going from NQ > +2. The 20k XP isn't part of that trial, though.

any difference if you have the +1>+2 to the NQ>+2? (in stats etc etc etc)