Neo-Dynamis Changes

[kylos]

I think players seem to be thinking the wrong way about currency.

Dreamland zones were not changed, therefore i strongly believe if you want to farm currency to the max, you would want to form an alliance to enter Dreamlands, however this would still cost you 500k for a Timeless hourglass.

You could get a team of 18 level 90s into Tavnazia, farm as much as possible, let the AFv2 and Hydra gear go to others, you could lot the currency, sell off currency until you have 500k again, keep the leftover currency towards your upgrade.

I feel that SE has purposely killed drop rates in the normal zones, as they want the areas to be purely for AFv2 farming, and to get your Attestations/Fragments easier then before.

So for those people worried over these new drop rates:

Currency farming: Buburimu, Valkurm Qufim and Tavnazia
AFv2 farming: Bastok, Sandoria, Jeuno, Windurst Beaucedine and Xarcabard

They also killed the three and half hour sessions in normal areas, in the past it was usual for groups of linkshells to spam city runs over and over, just for the currency, however it seems SE does not want that anymore, you will need to learn the dreamland zones and how to pull them, clear the 3 standard Dreamland zones, then you can enter Tavnazia, which i believe is the best zone, as it will drop all sorts of different gear for you, including tons of currency.

Unless someone finds an exploit in one of the standard dynamis areas, where you can defeat a certain NM to repeatedly obtain 100 bills, these standard zones will purely be for AFv2, dreamlands is the way forward for those searching to upgrade their Relic Weapons.

[Sho]

im GMT, and this was on lightdays if i remember rightly.

Hmm, the Ice Shot/Stoneja throws it off unless someone triggered while you used one of those skills.

[Malacite]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up4LTKxe0PA

[Theinen]

Did San d'Oria this morning and on BLM and BRD orcs I was able to Stagger them with Predator Claws. Each time I got an O Bronze.

[Mohit]

Did dyn-Sandy today. We killed Voidstreaker Butchnotch twice. He spawns in the middle area in front of the AH. He dropped the pop item needed for the Mega Boss 2/2. The Mega Boss dropped the Fiendish Tome (1) 2/2. I tanked Battlechoir Gitchfotch and Soulsender Fugbrag which spawned with the Mega Boss super tank style as pld/war. Not overly dangerous at all. Both NMs despawned when the Mega Boss died.

So, its really nice that we can spam pop the NMs needed for trials!

[matix]

then you can enter Tavnazia, which i believe is the best zone, as it will drop all sorts of different gear for you, including tons of currency.

have you ever been to tav? currency drops are terrible, the rest of the dreamlands zones are decent, but i recall tav being pretty unfavorable for farming currency, maybe af's/hydra/clear is nicer, and i think you are alotted less time total compared to the 3hrs or so from old zones; which u need to spend a few mins doing sj's and whatnot. (i suppose it depends on what exactly you intend to do, clear/farm, which mobs youd kill/have to pop)

like, you could def clean house there as 18 lvl 90's, but if youve got 18 lvl 90's, the effort is probably better spent in another dreamland zone

[Kirschy]

Not sure if this is old news, but:

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[matix]

new to me ;o

[Kirschy]

http://imageshack.us/m/194/3981/ffxi20110511214446.png

http://imageshack.us/m/842/5277/ffxi20110511214447.png

[blowfin]

Wow, there might actually be a reason for me to do a few Dyna runs outside of S & G.

[Chun Liroy]

I want that katana :<

[TacoTaru]

Would that Katana be better than Oirandori/Kamome?

[Eliane]

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6462/xarcabard.png

TEs in Xarcabard. The north one is an eye mob which grants +20 mins, all others are statues which give +10 mins. +60 in total.

[Kensagaku]

So it's been an interesting night, was playing around a bit in Dyna-Xarc. This spanned both Lightningday and Lightsday, just for reference. We got a lot of procs, mostly Blade: Jin. Maybe the data will help a bit?

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Just got a new one with Silence.

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My friend proposed a theory that's held firm for all but one of these staggers so far (and that one I'm not sure on, the one with the Kindred Dragoon being staggered with Jin): All of our triggers so far have happened while the mob was using an ability or spell. Usually they had to be at the same time or just about. Just did it again with Blade: Jin at the same time as Hecatomb Wave. Perhaps it's a coincidence but... never know?

Only seems to be one type of proc so far, and it increases currency drops. We had two different mobs drop x3 as a result. Most just dropped 1 though. You also might not be able to double proc but we haven't done extensive testing, so that's not a certainty.

[Xera]

Here's all our procs today along with Mob actions within 10~ seconds.

tl;dr: Not all our JA/WS moves matched up with an action, however our 3 magic procs were during or around casts. /shrug

[20:33:55]Praleart's attack staggers the fiend!
[20:33:56]Praleart uses Provoke on the Kindred Thief.
[20:34:27]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Thief.
[20:34:27]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Thief.

[20:35:11]The Kindred Bard casts Foe Requiem VII.
[20:35:19]Firemage starts casting Blizzard IV on the Kindred Bard.
[20:35:21]Firemage's attack staggers the fiend!
[20:35:43]You find a one byne bill on the Kindred Bard.
[20:35:43]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Bard.
[20:35:43]You find a one byne bill on the Kindred Bard.

[20:36:04]The Kindred Ranger readies Hecatomb Wave.
*Pretend Chi Blast here, damage filters*
[20:36:12]Sirdrake's attack staggers the fiend!
[20:36:32]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Ranger.
[20:36:32]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Ranger.
[20:36:32]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Ranger.
[20:36:32]You find a one byne bill on the Kindred Ranger.
[20:36:32]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Ranger.

[20:38:07]Narb readies Tachi: Fudo.
[20:38:07]Narb's attack staggers the fiend!
[20:39:31]You find an odious skull on the Kindred Samurai.
[20:39:31]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Samurai.

[20:40:00]The Kindred Dragoon uses Call Wyvern.
[20:40:06]Sirdrake readies Victory Smite.
[20:40:06]Sirdrake's attack staggers the fiend!
[20:40:47]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Dragoon.
[20:40:47]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Dragoon.
[20:40:47]You find a one byne bill on the Kindred Dragoon.

[20:42:54]Praleart's attack staggers the fiend!
[20:42:56]Praleart uses Provoke on the Kindred Thief.
[20:45:02]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Thief.
[20:45:07]You find a one byne bill on the Kindred Thief.
[20:45:07]You find a one byne bill on the Kindred Thief.


[20:53:46]The Kindred Ranger readies Hecatomb Wave.
[20:53:49]Praleart's attack staggers the fiend!
[20:53:50]Praleart uses Provoke on the Kindred Ranger.
[20:55:03]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Ranger.
[20:55:03]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Ranger.
[20:55:03]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Ranger.
[20:55:03]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Ranger.

[20:55:59]Narb's attack staggers the fiend!
[20:56:01]Narb uses Hamanoha.
[20:56:01]The Kindred Thief receives the effect of Hamanoha.
[20:56:57]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Thief.
[20:56:57]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Thief.
[20:56:57]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Thief.

[21:02:53]Narb's attack staggers the fiend!
[21:02:55]Narb uses Provoke on the Kindred Thief.
[21:04:55]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Thief.
[21:04:55]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred Thief.
[21:04:55]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Thief.

[21:39:20]The Kindred Black Mage casts Poisonga II.
[21:39:25]Starstrukk's attack staggers the fiend!
[21:39:25]Starstrukk casts Silence.
[21:39:25]Magic Burst! The Kindred Black Mage is silenced.
[21:39:27]The Kindred Black Mage casts Sleep.
[21:39:46]You find an odious pen on the Kindred Black Mage.
[21:39:46]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Black Mage.
[21:39:46]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Black Mage.

[21:44:34]Firemage starts casting Blizzard IV on the Kindred Red Mage.
[21:44:35]The Kindred Red Mage starts casting Poison II.
[21:44:38]Firemage's attack staggers the fiend!
[21:44:57]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Red Mage.
[21:44:57]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Red Mage.
[21:44:57]You find an Ordelle bronzepiece on the Kindred Red Mage.

[21:45:53]Starstrukk starts casting Holy on the Kindred White Mage.
[21:45:54]Starstrukk's attack staggers the fiend!
[21:45:54]The Kindred White Mage readies Soul Drain.
[21:46:09]You find a one byne bill on the Kindred White Mage.
[21:46:09]You find a Tukuku whiteshell on the Kindred White Mage.

[Rocl]

Just a counter-point, I got a proc by pulling with Provoke. However, the WS procs I've gotten could have been while the mobs were using WS (I remember freezing on in Soul Drain animation). So it's not true of ALL procs for you to do something while the mob is, I think/hope.

Edit: just checked my notes on the provoke proc, it was a THF mob so it definitely didn't cast before I voked, and definitely didn't WS because it was passive

[Xera]

Just a counter-point, I got a proc by pulling with Provoke. However, the WS procs I've gotten could have been while the mobs were using WS (I remember freezing on in Soul Drain animation). So it's not true of ALL procs for you to do something while the mob is, I think/hope.

It's probably irreverent unless the Kindred are running OnEvent+1, but kindred have regain or something similar in Xarcabard. They would open with TP moves occasionally on pull.

[Rocl]

It's probably irreverent unless the Kindred are running OnEvent+1, but kindred have regain or something similar in Xarcabard. They would open with TP moves occasionally on pull.

Ah well, the specific case I'm talking about was a Quadav in Beaucedine. I definitely don't think those have regain from solo-ing them, I certainly can't recall any TP moves on pull by them, at least.

[Sho]

Had a weird run as well in Xarca, however this was with Evisceration instead.


1) Evisceration on lightsday, blue !!, SAM mob
2) Evisceration on darksday, blue !!, DRK mob
3) Evisceration on dakrsday, blue !!, DRK mob, 12:27
4) Dancing Edge on darksday, blue !!, 23:00
5) Fire IV on firesday, green !!

Friend told me someone else in the area triggered green as well with Evisceration. Wasn't checking if these actions happened around mob TP actions. Also very certain that green/yellow/grellow trigger increases singles drop rate.

[Xera]

Does Blue/Grellow !! give the amneisa/silence like abyssea or are they all terror?

I admittedly didn't see a single !! today outside of chat log, which were all terror. <_<;

Edit: Think these are all NMs/Pops Items/Tome Drops based on .dats order.

Overlord's Tombstone    Statue   (NM-01) Pop: Barbaric Bijou    [Tome: 01]
Bladeburner Rokgevok    THF/DRK  (NM-02) Pop: Odious Scale      [Tome: 02]
Steelshank Kratzvatz    BST/???  (NM-03) Pop: Odious Leather    [Tome: 03]
Bloodfist Voshgrosh     ???/???  (NM-04) Pop: Odious Cryptex    [Tome: 04]
Spellspear Djokvukk     DRG/???  (NM-05) Pop: Odious Strongbox  [Tome: 05]
Gu'Dha Effigy           Statue   (NM-06) Pop: Steelwall Bijou   [Tome: 06] 
Zo'Pha Forgesoul        ???/???  (NM-07) Pop: Odious Charm      [Tome: 07]
Ra'Gho Darkfount        DRK/SMN  (NM-08) Pop: Odious Backscale  [Tome: 08]
Va'Zhe Pummelsong       ???/???  (NM-09) Pop: Odious Engraving  [Tome: 09]
Bu'Bho Truesteel        ???/???  (NM-10) Pop: Odious Letterbox  [Tome: 10]
Tzee Xicu Idol          Statue   (NM-11) Pop: Divine Bijou      [Tome: 11] 
Xuu Bhoqa the Enigma    SMN/???  (NM-12) Pop: Odious Necklace   [Tome: 12]
Fuu Tzapo the Blessed   ???/???  (NM-13) Pop: Odious Feather    [Tome: 13]
Naa Yixo the Stillrage  ???/???  (NM-14) Pop: Odious Holy Water [Tome: 14]
Tee Zaksa the Ceaseless ???/???  (NM-15) Pop: Odious Quipu      [Tome: 15]
Goblin Golem            Statue   (NM-16) Pop: Roving Bijou      [Tome: 16]
Quicktrix Hexhands      ???/???  (NM-17) Pop: Odious Cup        [Tome: 17]
Feralox Honeylips       BST/???  (NM-18) Pop: Odious Die        [Tome: 18]
Scourquix Scaleskin     DRG/???  (NM-19) Pop: Odious Mask       [Tome: 19]
Wilywox Tenderpalm      WHM/THF  (NM-20) Pop: Odious Grenade    [Tome: 20]
Angra Mainyu            RDM/BLM  (NM-21) Pop: Leering Bijou     [Tome: 21]
Taquede                 ???/???  (NM-22) Pop: Odious Talisman   [Tome: 22]
Pignonpausard           ???/???  (NM-23) Pop: Odious Bell       [Tome: 23]
Hitaume                 ???/???  (NM-24) Pop: Odious Tree Root  [Tome: 24]
Cavanneche              ???/???  (NM-25) Pop: Odious Mirror     [Tome: 25]
Dynamis Lord            ???      (NM-26) Pop: Shrouded bijou    [Tome: 26]
Duke Haures             RDM/BRD  (NM-27) Pop: Odious Skull      [Tome: 27]
Marquis Caim            BST/NIN  (NM-28) Pop: Odious Horn       [Tome: 28]
Baron Avnas             THF/DRK  (NM-29) Pop: Odious Blood      [Tome: 29]
Count Haagenti          PLD/SMN  (NM-30) Pop: Odious Pen        [Tome: 30]