Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Mairja]

To be fair, we only had 2 smn each run and from what i gathered between my constant R0 and eventual ISP pooping out, we had a smn change to sch. Not sure how much that matters but adl is pretty squishy and i thought 3 PDs (3 shots at that 50% win) with 3 cor (was 4 but i had ISP issues) would give better results than 2 smn 1 sch and 3 cor.

Also to note: dont think any of the cors have enhanced wildcard too. So its all relative.

We would have won yesterday if not for terror and tera slash spam (and ADL splitting for a 2nd time). We have a few things restricting us, such as a lack of smn with Alexander (3 ppl only, with Amana being jp and not always on due to the time difference). Also, too many of our members don't show up that often - I've been the only smn before and when 4 cors (all mules, some newly leveled just for this purpose) fail to reset my 2hr then that's that for the evening. Seems to me we lack people with job versatility. Idk, too many things that can go wrong and depending on 2hrs and resetting them to do more than 1 fight all contribute to making this a stupid fight.

[Mafai]

Also to note: dont think any of the cors have enhanced wildcard too. So its all relative.

What is enhanced wildcard ?

[Darkmagi]

The augmented piece does a hidden re-roll if it were to land on a 1 or 2. Very useful to have.

[Chamaan]

The +2 Commodore boots have an enhancement that forces a reroll if it lands on 1 or 2, the garbage rolls. So you have a second chance to roll for 3-6.

[Mafai]

The +2 Commodore boots have an enhancement that forces a reroll if it lands on 1 or 2, the garbage rolls. So you have a second chance to roll for 3-6.

Hidden means that even if you see a 1-2 you can get a reset if the new roll is good?

[Chamaan]

If it comes up it just does it behind the scene, before it's reported to you. So if you roll a 1 with those on, it means you rolled 1/2 and then a 1 on the second roll and that's what gets reported to you.

[Liltrouble]

I think SE really needs to nerf ADL a bit. 0/9 is terrible. It totally demeans morale in my members and sucks all around. Even if we were 1/9 it would make all the difference in the world.

[Nekradarken]

193 coins using BST with Yuly after the update today, but I entered Buburimu late today due to update, so got moderate competition from some JPs. Slight drop from the average 220+ coins during european time. Probably the TH nerf doesn't affect BST much after all...kill speed is more important.

[Diomer]

I think SE really needs to nerf ADL a bit. 0/9 is terrible. It totally demeans morale in my members and sucks all around. Even if we were 1/9 it would make all the difference in the world.

Sorry to be the one to tell you this; but it's really just your own fault; ADL is killable with a VERY high rate as is; it doesn't need to be nerfed. The more you kill it, the more your kill rate should improve. We only ever use 5 DD and we're still killing 90% of ADLs now. You should be able to kill the 2nd ADL as PD gets gets weak the majority of the time;.

[Mairja]

Sorry to be the one to tell you this; but it's really just your own fault; ADL is killable with a VERY high rate as is; it doesn't need to be nerfed. The more you kill it, the more your kill rate should improve. We only ever use 5 DD and we're still killing 90% of ADLs now. You should be able to kill the 2nd ADL as PD gets gets weak the majority of the time;.

Yeah, unless a couple of Tera Slash go off, or you get terrored, followed by another split if your luck really sucks. Saying it's "just your own fault" is hardly fair in a fight like this, when judging from what Liltrouble says they're basically doing everything right. My ls is far from neither gimp nor confused/wtf, but we were also struggling against some shitty luck in the beginning.

[Prothescar]

Dynamic Impulse has the ability to almost always fuck up your run. I don't care what anyone says, that shit lasts fucking forever, enough time for ADL to pop off some Tera Slashes or split.

[Jem]

The difficulty of ADL basically depends on what move he decides to use immediately after splitting. If it's implosion, you probably won't be able to kill both clones before it reclones. If it's Tera Slash it depends on how many DD's it drops. If it's anything else, you should be able to kill both as long as it doesn't implosion.

For instance a few weeks back we had one that Tera Slashed just after split dropping virtually every DD except me and one other. It then immediately cast Death on the other DD, I got it to 1% and then it implosioned before promptly casting Death on me.

It does seem to pop in various modes like someone mentioned before. Some pops it just spams aga spells which makes it a lot easier whereas other times it won't cast at all increasing it's likelihood to get off a dick move before it dies.

[Mairja]

SE's idea of conal, or fan-shaped, is somewhat screwed up too - last weekend Tera Slash dropped 2 DDs that were pretty much next to each other in front of it, and another DD that was behind it as well as a mage mule near the slope - which made us all wtf quite a bit. Anyone else had that happen?

[Zag]

SE's idea of conal, or fan-shaped, is somewhat screwed up too - last weekend Tera Slash dropped 2 DDs that were pretty much next to each other in front of it, and another DD that was behind it as well as a mage mule near the slope - which made us all wtf quite a bit.

Stop feeding him so much goddamn TP?

[Mairja]

Stop feeding him so much goddamn TP?

That was one single Tera Slash. What should the DDs do, not hit him?

[Jem]

Yeah Tam, you should totally not feed the mob any TP during a zerg. Whilst you're at it, ask ADL to kindly not bother using his automatic TP move after splitting too.

[Zag]

I quoted the wrong person, was meant for the person that said thye went 0/9 and brings a shit ton of DDs. Alot of ADL wins are from a low number of DDs on him. He is very easily managable with just 2 DDs pre-split. All of the Dynamis Lord mobs in the game were always tough when giving him alot of TP. At least in my case from trying it, I treat him like a chariot from salvage pre-split.

[Mairja]

Yeah Tam, you should totally not feed the mob any TP during a zerg. Whilst you're at it, ask ADL to kindly not bother using his automatic TP move after splitting too.

Maybe he'll listen if I use my mom-voice!

[Jem]

I don't think anybody is having issues with him pre-split since he will generally only get 1-2 moves off before splitting.

And after split I wouldn't like to have a reduced amount of DD's on him as the longer you take to kill, the more likely he is to split again.

[Prothescar]

There's no issues pre-split, and most of the time there aren't issues post-split... but if he decides to use Dynamic Implosion or a good Tera Slash, good luck.

My LS got super lucky a few nights ago and ended up going 4/4 on kills and walking out with 5 Marrows and several pieces of gear, but we weren't once afflicted by Dynamic Implosion and Tera Slash was merciful.