Neo-Dynamis Changes

**Atoreis** · 2011-05-12 19:14

Sleep II yellow stagger in Windurst in Ice day so its not previous present next day.

All 4 NMs I saw in windurst (the ones that are not from ???) are timed spawn. Around 15 min I think.

**Malacite** · 2011-05-12 19:57

Originally Posted by Eliane

What you get when you proc on a Xarc NM

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7...0512181906.png

Paralyze proc, BLM mob. Thundersday.

Damn son, BLM, NM pop (I think? That's what the Bijous are for right?) and a 100. Good times :D

^_^ trio'd about... 6 or 7 gobs today just for fun and managed to snag PLD legs off 1 and COR + WHM body off another >.> pretty sweet.

**Zag** · 2011-05-12 20:16

Originally Posted by Eliane

What you get when you proc on a Xarc NM

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7...0512181906.png

Paralyze proc, BLM mob. Thundersday.

That trig he dropped is used to pop dynamis lord right? I was wondering if they buffed dynamis lord and if they added new drops to him and the stagger system to him. I wanna see how much coins he drops too. POst your results, I wanna know badly ;;.

**Fievel** · 2011-05-12 20:32

Originally Posted by Zag

That trig he dropped is used to pop dynamis lord right? I was wondering if they buffed dynamis lord and if they added new drops to him and the stagger system to him. I wanna see how much coins he drops too. POst your results, I wanna know badly ;;.

There was a pic posted, said DL was easy, no PD or chainspell stun needed, dropped a 100 currency and a piece of shadow gear.

**Zanark** · 2011-05-12 20:49

Can anyone confirm if Vanguard Dragons drop 100`s now? Or if they ever have? Also have they changed the drop rate for Necropsyche? I thought it was 100%? I killed 3 just now and nothing dropped, only xp scrolls.

**Gokku** · 2011-05-12 21:09

just finished 5 runs @ DL 1 wipe 4 wins no 2 hours used , brd whmx2 mnk sam nin thf blm rdm . Drops were x2 ring x2 mantle 0 coins and 4 of the tome pages 26. seems theres a DL+1 since as the ??? states if you trade 5 tomes to it youll spawn something else.

**Foldypaws** · 2011-05-12 21:14

Originally Posted by Zanark

Can anyone confirm if Vanguard Dragons drop 100`s now? Or if they ever have? Also have they changed the drop rate for Necropsyche? I thought it was 100%? I killed 3 just now and nothing dropped, only xp scrolls.

Necropysche has never been 100%

**Kensagaku** · 2011-05-12 21:18

Alright, went to Xarc today, setup was MNK/MNK/WHM/RDM/THF/SAM. RDM (me) went off to do the statue TEs, others killed eye. After that we settled into slaughtering. Lotsa AF (got my Dchap finally!) and we had some interesting stuff on trigs. Didnt' record them all (was getting hairy at some points) but here is what I've gotten:

Code:

Mob Type   |   Stagger   |   Stagger Color   |   Day   |  Time
   THF        Chi Blast           Red            Wind     11:50
   BLM        Silence             Red            Wind     19:40
   DRG        Ascetic's Fury      Red            Wind     19:50
   RDM        Silence             Red            Wind     22:48
   WHM        Silence             Red            Wind     23:44
   BLM        Silence             Red            Ice       1:35
   DRG        Ascetic's Fury      Red            Ice       2:35
   DRK        Victory Smite       Red            Ice      13:40

Hopefully these help a bit. Also additional notes:

-For the mage Silence procs, they always occurred when silenced mid-cast. This held true for those four then stopped working. Coincidence, or perhaps a pattern somewhere? Dunno.
-For the two DRG and the DRK procs, those both happened during the 2hr animations, with a WS going off at the same time. Again this didn't hold consistent after a few times.
-We had one additional proc (Tachi: Gekko) that went off without any sort of action going on at the time. Not sure about this one.

**Cymmina** · 2011-05-12 21:43

Xarcabard, focused on THFs, trying to find the NM's placeholder. Lots of Provoke and step procs. Also Libra and Hamanoha.

**BlackMoomba** · 2011-05-12 21:55

Just did Goublefaupe, spawned trading Despot's Fortune Parchment which we farmed from Fomor Pld and War to the ??? inside of his normal tower @ I-7. He spawned with none of his buddies and didn't use any tier 4's during chainspell like the fomor rdm's are able to do now. Killed very easily with Pld, War, Mnk and Whm in under 10.

**nivlakian** · 2011-05-13 00:26

Originally Posted by Daiiawn

Ok, just finished a Dyn Windy run.

...

#4 Didnt pop it

I didn't notice a post about #4 on that dynamis-windurst map, but the mob is SAM + RDM (Meikyo Shisui and Chainspell). Got a red stagger with Victory Smite.

http://i54.tinypic.com/ngc842.jpg

**Cleverness** · 2011-05-13 00:35

Originally Posted by Kensagaku

-For the mage Silence procs, they always occurred when silenced mid-cast. This held true for those four then stopped working. Coincidence, or perhaps a pattern somewhere? Dunno.

I've had a silence proc as the RDM mob was running into camp while not casting, and seen a Stun claim on a RDM mob immediately proc red. Not necessarily needed for it to be casting. Just my personal observation on this point.

**Cruzizzle** · 2011-05-13 00:42

Did some Xarc tonight with LS. Was inside during Dark/Fire thru Earth day. Was able to easily proc mage type mobs, saw Drain, Fire 2, Slow 2, Fire 3, Water 3, multiple times with each. These were all Red staggers. We had one JA proc just as we were leaving my friend Mijin'd a ninja mob to deathwarp and it proc'd him. I wasn't able to snap a ss.

Killed two Odius NM's.

Odius Skull pops Duke Haures, he was RDM/BRD, proc'd red with Slow2 I think, he wasn't to difficult. Dorp. Also, the map someone posted earlier in this thread was a little off. The ??? at where the Animated Longsword used to be was for Odius Horn not skull. Skull ???'s are where Animated Scythe used to be.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5264/dukehaures.jpg

Odius Pen pops Count Haagenti, he was a PLD/SMN, proc'd red again with Water3 I think. He was kind of a bitch. We had 8 very well geared people (whm,rdm,sam,drk,nin,thf,blmx2) and after about 30% his defense shot up and with multiple Invincibles it was slow going to kill. Had to Stun>Sleep the avatar to keep from getting Diamond Dusted 3 times, so took about ~8mins. Also dorp'd, sorry didn't SS it, it's:

Demonry Stone
[Ammo] All Races
MP+20 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2
LV 88 WAR MNK RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4...nthaagenti.jpg

**Sorantia** · 2011-05-13 01:12

Originally Posted by Chemius

Linkshell is working on a theory that staggers are broken down into the following categories:

JA: RNG THF MNK BST NIN
WS: PLD WAR SAM DRG DRK
Magic: WHM BLM SMN BRD RDM

This holds true for our own linkshell runs and everything I've seen in this thread so far unless we missed something.

Procs are with respect to the mobs job.

I just collected just about almost every stagger information provided, and it fits perfectly. Magics always staggered magics job. WS always staggered heavy DD jobs, and JA always staggered light DD jobs.

Spoiler: show

As you can see, I took the time to collect all the records provided in this thread, put it together in excel. You should see that it fits perfectly.

**Atomic Skull** · 2011-05-13 01:13

Originally Posted by TehKerm

Didnt SE mention they was lowering the requirements to finish a relic? was that implemented yet or was that for future updates?

Nope they didn't say that. They said they wanted to balance the difficulty between upgrading relics and mythics. That would mean making relics harder or mythics easier, but certainly not relics easier.

**RedQueen** · 2011-05-13 01:22

As there is 17 pages of things here, could someone (If any information) tell me in Beau. when you spawn the Boss (Eye with Dragons) when you kill the eye do the dragons despawn. I'm only wondering since now the mob pets auto disappear once they are defeated. I was not sure if they were consider to be the eye's pets or not. Very Sorry if this has been asked.

**Teeko** · 2011-05-13 01:24

"We are aware that there currently exists a major difference between the strength of Empyrean weapons and that of Relic and Mythic weapons.

In regards to that balance issue, we are planning to make adjustments. We plan to create a higher level of balance by strengthening both Relic and Mythic weapons instead of simply weakening Empyrean weapons.

Along with that, we are also planning to make adjustments to both the time and cost required to create and strengthen Relic and Mythic weapons. Eventually, we would like to even out the differences in the amount of time required to create and strengthen these weapons. "

**Anomander** · 2011-05-13 01:25

Some NM's are absolutely lotto pop. Cleared ice pond just before fei'yin, mithraslaver and drakefeast both popped in their respective nq's spots, bst and drg (the nq's did not pop).

Edit: Staggered drakefeast with kasha, seems to fit theory posted above.

Also got mithraslaver with chi blast, which also fits the theory.

They were both blue !!, and both were on windsday between 0-4

Boss tossed our salads with chainspell (didnt see it use it but there was no cast time or recast time) death when it got low. Not sure if thats old or new behavior but never had it happen before (granted killing with 24 is a bit diff than 4).

**Yugl** · 2011-05-13 01:25

Smiting breath has always proced !! on THF mobs in Dynamis when they use their 2hr.

**Rocl** · 2011-05-13 01:34

I think the JA/WS/Magic split is pretty sound. Every proc I got tonight was on a DRK, DRG, or PLD mob with a weapon skill. There were quite a few instances that I can recall where we staggered by Weapon Skilling outside of 2HR or WS. I don't think that is as sound a theory, but hey, maybe it's lag. Something else interesting is that I pulled a Kindred Dark Knight after fighting Animated Scythe, and after it caught up to me, I Blade: Hi'd. Nothing happened. Later, getting TP a second time, Blade: Hi & stagger. Really weird.

An aside on the Scythe, Catastrophe did not insta-kill or whatever, I think someone mentioned the H2H doing this-- but it definitely didn't happen with the Scythe. (Some people in our group were worried.) However, Catastrophe did seem to occasionally ignore shadows (and it did hurt a lot ~1200 dmg). Also also, I've never fought the sychte before, but whenever he cast Phalanx, it seemed to be something more like -50% PDT than real Phalanx.

And, for Dynamis - Xarcabard, the lotto windows seem to open like 15-20min after death. Killed Zagan a few times.

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