Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Siatdiat]

Though, I have to wonder. Is it really every actions, or is it just mostly the certain higher leveled actions. Have anyone even stagger with low level WSes, say... Wasp Sting or Red Lotus Blade? Or even elemental ninjutsu: ichi?

I specifically tried spamming ichi spells at one point and couldn't get a proc, then cast Doton: Ni next and it procced. Sample size small clearly but considering if type 2 is the correct method, then the goal should be to spam short casting spells rather than waste time casting ichi or san. Can rotate thru the ni wheel on blm mobs as nin, and dispel isnt a bad choice to spam for rdm or /rdm.

[Daiiawn]

Im also leaning towards #2, because if it was #1, you would expect that one ja to be 100% proc due to it being the only one possible, however i have seen a nin/war spam voke and proc on the 11th voke on a mob.

[Sorantia]

Im also leaning towards #2, because if it was #1, you would expect that one ja to be 100% proc due to it being the only one possible, however i have seen a nin/war spam voke and proc on the 11th voke on a mob.

Right, and Fievel mentioned that he was holding a mob and Provoked multiple times until it lands, which leads me to believe it's not one specific 'selected' action, like Abyssea, but I'm pretty sure he did say he was able to stagger a mob multiple times. Not gonna really try to find the post where he said it.

I think there's a specific set of actions that would actually stagger it. Say, All of Ninjutsu Ni would stagger it, but never San or Ichi. Most JAs would stagger, but some won't. IE: Steal, and Mug, and like for Magic, only Tier IV spell (which seems to have the best result in my experience) but never tier III and tier V, yet I've seen spells like Silence, Dispel, and even Aspir staggered.

[ceown]

Just adding my data here. At work so I can't post the logs.

I'm the one that did sch and the primary monk (when there were two) as the other one was still an abyessa leveled monk with meh gear.
Did xarc twice in a row.
Did sch\rdm, thf\nin, and whm\blm at first. More of a trying to figure out how and where things where. Found the TE and some random experimentation (job based procs not known at the time.) Found the VT have some INSANE crit hit rates. Poor sch took 500ish when a crit landed.
Second time changed the sch to mnk\dnc
Couldn't proc at all until I went and killed the damned eye for the last TE. Proced like mad on the theifs we pulled using steps once it was dead.

Did windurst with mnk\dnc *2, drk\???, thf\nin, whm\blm. Looked at the two 15 min TE, saw the mobs around them and opted not to due to the impending being dead if I tried solo. Killed the rest. Camped on the AH and killed the smn nm three times. Could not stagger anything at all, even the theifs.

Did sandy last night. mnk\dnc, thf\nin, blm\rdm, whm\blm.
Couldn't proc anything until all the TE were dead. After that, we promptly made the theifs, ninjas, and bards very dead and lacking their coin purses. Proced most offten with ice and thunder on the bard on ice day. Chiblast only staggered once on monk. Every other stagger done for JA were support job triggers (dnc), and generaly took the 2nd or third attempt. First or 4th attempt were rare. Camped near north sandy zoneline and took out the nin nm several times. Staggered it every single time on monk using dnc JA. Made the nm a complete joke.
Whm couldn't stagger anything on the brd and blm mobs. Was all blm. Stun did it the odd time.

Edit: No 100 peices from the nin nm. But on average each stagger yeilded 2-3 coins from all mobs.

Overall looks like I'll be camping the JA trigger based mobs due to the miss or hit on the ws mobs until we can figure out the nature of the triggers. Or at least for non NMs. Maybe the nms might live long enough to actually take more than 2 ws's.

Odd note is that I'm finding things outside of abyessa do some insane crit damage once they start being worth anything.

The new NM pops.. How are you guys getting them? The only pops we've gotten have been the zone bosses gem. Either we've been killing the wrong things, or we have horrible luck on the nms we've been poking.

[Sorantia]

The new NM pops.. How are you guys getting them? The only pops we've gotten have been the zone bosses gem. Either we've been killing the wrong things, or we have horrible luck on the nms we've been poking.

First time in Dynamis - Xarcabard, we got Odious Blood off the first 'Tough' rated mob we got, but never got ANY pop items off Easy Prey mobs. So, I'm pretty sure you'll only get pop items at higher leveled mobs, but not lower level.

[TehKerm]

Ichis and t1 black magic can stagger, did it twenty billion times yesterday.

[AzazaelFenrir]

The new NM pops.. How are you guys getting them? The only pops we've gotten have been the zone bosses gem. Either we've been killing the wrong things, or we have horrible luck on the nms we've been poking.

For cities you will typically kill the mobs around the ??? you want to pop. Those mobs will typically have a higher chance to drop the pop item, than some mob across the map.

[Khiinroye]

Just a note for Arch Dynamis Lord: popping it will despawn avatars, so make sure PD goes off before you do so. We found this out the hard way, as one of our Alexanders didn't get PD off in time, leaving half our melees unprotected. They got killed early in the fight and PD wore on the rest with him at 24% or so.

His AoE tp moves can do 800-1200 damage, so he can kill people very quickly.

[TehKerm]

Does anyone have accurate maps of the TEs in all the zones now? im having trouble finding any sides xarc

[Sorantia]

Does anyone have accurate maps of the TEs in all the zones now? im having trouble finding any sides xarc

Taken from FFXIAH forums:

http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/ima...ndytimemap.jpg

Ichis and t1 black magic can stagger, did it twenty billion times yesterday.

So much for that. So it can be literally anything. Thanks for the info.

[TehKerm]

Thanks for the map now to find a sandy/bastok/glacier one, i saw maps on ffxi.gamerscape but idk if those are accurate or old maps just used, dont wanna do a run without some kinda knowledge on getting the TEs to begin staggering.

[Radec]

Can some people post BLM damage on stats? Specifically yagudo stats, I'm trying to see what would be required to 1shot yags as well and my calculations show they have 257 (!) int.

To check, in yesterday's xarc I did 961 dmg to the Icon Prototype with blizzzard5

Varuna+2/Bugard/---/Witchstone
Goetia+2/Artemis(Was fullmoon, so 10mab)/Hecate/Novio
Goetia+2/Goetia+2/Galdr/Demon(3mab)
Searing/Oneiros(4mab)/Goetia+2/Goetia+2

102+32INT, +36+74MAB. Assumed -50%SDT on the stat, but since only looking for ballpark numbers here, can use MDB or MDT and get a similar result.

Edit: Looks like Impact should do it, even with only goetia chain instead of fullpower artemis, but would like confirmation before I try to snipe a yag and get blasted by a 2% stat and a pile of adds.

Edit: durr 2x dark weather constantly, impact should easily kill.

Thanks for the map :) now to find a sandy/bastok/glacier one, i saw maps on ffxi.gamerscape but idk if those are accurate or old maps just used, dont wanna do a run without some kinda knowledge on getting the TEs to begin staggering.

Sandy:
Upper level, East Alley (M-7)
Above AH (I-9)
Bridge Above Westgate (G-9)
Tunnel towards PLD job quest guy (E-6) < Terrible description I know, just check a map. not much in E-6.
Upper Level Leathercraft Guild (D-8)

Jeuno:
Windy Embassy (H-9)
N of Fellowship points guy (G-9)
Level Below AH (F-9) <not the one on the stairs down, but on the lower landing>
In front of palace (H-8, I-8, roams a bit)
Upper level of Palace, Balcony (H-7)

[Fievel]

Right, and Fievel mentioned that he was holding a mob and Provoked multiple times until it lands, which leads me to believe it's not one specific 'selected' action, like Abyssea, but I'm pretty sure he did say he was able to stagger a mob multiple times. Not gonna really try to find the post where he said it.

I think there's a specific set of actions that would actually stagger it. Say, All of Ninjutsu Ni would stagger it, but never San or Ichi. Most JAs would stagger, but some won't. IE: Steal, and Mug, and like for Magic, only Tier IV spell (which seems to have the best result in my experience) but never tier III and tier V, yet I've seen spells like Silence, Dispel, and even Aspir staggered.

Never procd more than once on a mob, but I also never tried. Holding mobs and spaming voke worked on almost every single ja mob though. Sometimes it procd on pull, others it would take 3-4 tries but it definitely works. Id just keep them slept and voke when it was up while I killed ws/magic mobs. Horde lullaby, stun, dia, dia2, bio, bio2 works great for magic staggers. Smite worked maybe 20% of the time for ws stagger.

[AzazaelFenrir]

Thanks for the map now to find a sandy/bastok/glacier one, i saw maps on ffxi.gamerscape but idk if those are accurate or old maps just used, dont wanna do a run without some kinda knowledge on getting the TEs to begin staggering.

Sandy, Basty, and Xarca are correct on GamerEscape. Here is Beauc

[TehKerm]

Sweet ty so much ^-^

[Sorantia]

Never procd more than once on a mob, but I also never tried. Holding mobs and spaming voke worked on almost every single ja mob though. Sometimes it procd on pull, others it would take 3-4 tries but it definitely works. Id just keep them slept and voke when it was up while I killed ws/magic mobs. Horde lullaby, stun, dia, dia2, bio, bio2 works great for magic staggers. Smite worked maybe 20% of the time for ws stagger.

Ah, okay. Yeah, I pretty much just kept spamming steps/flourishes, elemental Ninjutsu or Ws (Evisceration seems to be the best bet) on mobs. Seems that Ninjutsu elementals would take the longest, sometimes I'd have to cycle through em twice or three times to finally get a proc.

[Alarial]

Sandy, Basty, and Xarca are correct on GamerEscape. Here is Beauc

Just something to add, but our little farming group found the Rearguard eye on the southern edge of G-8, near the ramp. So it can move around a lot on that top level.

[Fievel]

Ah, okay. Yeah, I pretty much just kept spamming steps/flourishes, elemental Ninjutsu or Ws (Evisceration seems to be the best bet) on mobs. Seems that Ninjutsu elementals would take the longest, sometimes I'd have to cycle through em twice or three times to finally get a proc.

I had to spam magic on quite a bit of the mobs aswell.

[Cymmina]

Can some people post BLM damage on stats? Specifically yagudo stats, I'm trying to see what would be required to 1shot yags as well and my calculations show they have 257 (!) int.

To check, in yesterday's xarc I did 961 dmg to the Icon Prototype with blizzzard5

Varuna+2/Bugard/---/Witchstone
Goetia+2/Artemis(Was fullmoon, so 10mab)/Hecate/Novio
Goetia+2/Goetia+2/Galdr/Demon(3mab)
Searing/Oneiros(4mab)/Goetia+2/Goetia+2

102+32INT, +36+74MAB. Assumed -50%SDT on the stat, but since only looking for ballpark numbers here, can use MDB or MDT and get a similar result.

Edit: Looks like Impact should do it, even with only goetia chain instead of fullpower artemis, but would like confirmation before I try to snipe a yag and get blasted by a 2% stat and a pile of adds.

Edit: durr 2x dark weather constantly, impact should easily kill.

Here's some SCH numbers from Xarc (Ebullience+Weather+Aero5):

The Tombstone Prototype takes 1541 points of damage.
The Effigy Prototype takes 1218 points of damage.
The Statue Prototype takes 1272 points of damage.

I might have forgotten to take out my obis though.

[Yeager]

Here's a couple of procs taken from yesterday's Dynamis-Xarcabard NIN/WAR + RDM duo with a LS mate.

Drops were PLD THF RDM BRD BLU SMN

Also, take note of the 2nd screenshot. Proves that it can be ANY WS that procs !! on mobs and not just high level WS's.

http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/w...515_212615.png

http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/w...515_211643.png