Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Haborym]

That front page looks good B, Has anyone got a collection of the updated maps with TE's posted? I'd love to work on something similar to Dyna-Bums work for the original dyna content
basically a picture/guide/drop list all in one.

http://7th.guildwork.com/blog/2011/5...w-dynamis-maps

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[Byrthnoth]

I e-mailed Xera on this page to ask if we could use these maps (posted earlier on this page) on BG wiki. I think they're what you're looking for, shepardG.

Also, @Ocara. I haven't even zoned into Dynamis since the update as I need no AF2. The information I got was posted earlier on this page by Anariodin http://images.bluegartr.com/images/s...post-right.png.

[MaachaQ]

I may have missed it, but I didn't see any info on how to pop the attestation NMs now, are they lottery/timed spawned? Also, what would the minimum number of people needed be to kill Quiebitiel (by casual players, not "elite" ). Trying to get my Dynamis group together for runs again and gathering as much info as I can ^^;

[Arthars]

camp job equivilent hydras, better to farm those below the old goblind ramp as they are EP(those above are VT) and hope they drop. Drop rate is slightly bad i would say. First run we farmed 100 mins for only 1 PLD trigger(note that there is VERY LITTLE pld/rdm/war mobs in any specific area and got 4 DRK trigger.

2nd run we farmed 70 mins and got 3 PLD triggerand 2 drk trigger. All with TH6+ so you may need to farm 2 days to complete the trials.

Those Nms are joke. I havent try tham at lvl 90 prepatch but i know they can be killed by pt of 6 within 3 mins. That PLD NM didnt even cast ice spikes for 5 attempts.

if you are after BRD NM, take note hes the only NM that doesnt have ??? in his tower anymore. the ??? is at somewhere near a lake at the MNK tower i think.

[aduidarnenye]

I'm not sure about the RNG being JAs for staggers. Here is a picture of a NIN using a weapon skill on a Yagudo Salvager in Dynamis-Windurst and staggering blue:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i5...rngstagger.jpg
Unless the NIN did a JA between the weapon skill and the stagger, which my filters didn't pick up, but it looks like it happened on the WS.

[AzazaelFenrir]

It says "re-use" 2hr but I thought A. it had no such affect on NMs and B. Normal mobs can only use their 2hr once anyway, so it either cancels OR stops them from using their 2hr

Minor semantics, but anyone back this up?

From what I have seen Red procing a pre popped NM will lock the two hour. Red proccing a popped NM has no effect on two hour. Other wiki (aka gamerEscape) has the basic maps I believe. There is no info on NMs or pop spots, but the TE's are there.

[Cleverness]

Just did a dyna bastok in a trio, only got 4 of the TE's, and all our procs were yellow, so that further supports that notion. We did jeuno yesterday and got all 5 TE and saw nothing but red procs and very often.

[AzazaelFenrir]

I'm not sure about the RNG being JAs for staggers. Here is a picture of a NIN using a weapon skill on a Yagudo Salvager in Dynamis-Windurst and staggering blue:
[IMG]rngstagger.jpg[/IMG]
Unless the NIN did a JA between the weapon skill and the stagger, which my filters didn't pick up, but it looks like it happened on the WS.

I will check when I get home, but I should have in my logs from Sunday night at least 1 (maybe 2 or 3) ja procs on a ranger mob. I know for sure I have 1 cause the bastard EES me right when I staggered him. Possible that you (and Riya?) had something filtered and missed a JA?

[ceown]

Did the glacier last night. thf\nin, nin\dnc, mnk\dnc, whm\blm (tractor is handy)
Got 5/5 TE dispite the pain in the rear it is to get the first one by the rdm NM without links, or the trek up to the eye.

Got a few what looks like attesation pops and two diffrent ones from the same camp area. We were sitting by the last ramp down a tthe south end of the map poking mostly the ja\ws trigger hydras. Triggered on pretty much every mob.

Interesting thing to note is that the nin and thf were beating on the hydras while i hunted down the TE's with my monk and pocket taru whm- very little dropped (as expected.) The interesting bit is no pops dropped till we hit 5/5 and were able to start staggering.

Might be timing or luck.
It does however explain the xarc run we didn't get 5/5 TE on, no DL pops much like we had crap for drops in windy with 3/5 TE.
I have a strong suspicion to get the drops off nms we'll need full TE. Not that you shouldn't be getting them in the first place.
Just means no farming up like 6 pops for DL and trying to farm him without getting the TE first if you want loot.

Based on the maps I know where the atts pop. Do we have a name list for which pops which yet? Kinda stuck running around to the ???'s to see which one pops which. Unless we know the drop from that mob is 100% for that job, and not another. Pointing that out as mobs can drop any AF, so theres no gaurntee that they drop that jobs pop specificly.

Edit: Saw the RNG proc after I posted. Have staggered rangers with steps several times myself. Also had one proc right as it EESed me as well. I'm thinking someone else (assuming there were others) proced as the nin wsed.

[Fievel]

From what I have seen Red procing a pre popped NM will lock the two hour. Red proccing a popped NM has no effect on two hour. Other wiki (aka gamerEscape) has the basic maps I believe. There is no info on NMs or pop spots, but the TE's are there.

This is definitely true. Red !! Prevents the mob from being able to 2hr, also it will cancel the 2hr if the mob has it up, helpful for things like pd and invincible. Definitely doesnt prevent 2hr on NM's too, no doubt on that. Triggered red on the new monk NM in glacier last night and he hundred fisted right as he unterror'd

I triggered red on several ranger mobs spaming voke btw, I did this to prevent EES from fucking me in the face, so im sure its ja and not ws, maybe it changes based on tiers? Or there was a problem with your filters, who knows.

[Arthars]

maybe its provoke > blade jin in quick succession

[Byrthnoth]

Is the text still "Attack" if it's a JA?

[aduidarnenye]

I will check when I get home, but I should have in my logs from Sunday night at least 1 (maybe 2 or 3) ja procs on a ranger mob. I know for sure I have 1 cause the bastard EES me right when I staggered him. Possible that you (and Riya?) had something filtered and missed a JA?

It's entirely possible we missed something due to the filters. I can't figure out what though. We had NIN/DNC, BLM/SCH, and WHM/RDM (myself and I'm certain I did nothing to the mob).

maybe its provoke > blade jin in quick succession

He was NIN/DNC.

[Arthars]

prolly yes, my ninjitsu proc says attack as well

[AzazaelFenrir]

It's entirely possible we missed something due to the filters. I can't figure out what though. We had NIN/DNC, BLM/SCH, and WHM/RDM (myself and I'm certain I did nothing to the mob).

He was NIN/DNC.

If I was to guess I would say maybe he stepped or flourished right before the WS.

FivieloodStamps was a pre-popped NM or force-pop NM? I haven't gone to glacier much since you guys have been running em super late.

[Fievel]

Force, it's the dick one that spams hundred fists.

[AzazaelFenrir]

Force, it's the dick one that spams hundred fists.

Seeing as it was a force I am going to make the assumption that pre-popped NMs follow the same stagger rules a normal NM (no 2hour or cancelled), while a Force pop will basically say 'hahaha fuck you and your proc'

[Arthars]

for those popped NMs, that have 2 jobs, which proc rules are we gotta follow?

[Fievel]

I think both works?

[ceown]

I havn't done any popped nms but the one sandy zone boss and slept it's minions so I can't comment on pops.

The time based NMs (old nms) follow standard staggering rules based on my experiance. Staggered a ninja timed NM with steps, no kaboom.