Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Daiiawn]

I was the one who had said we saw proc's on 11th voke, but they were blue and yellow procs. Once 5/5 and getting red out proc rate was (small sample size), run 1: Voke and Enmity douse when up, took on average 2 JA's to proc. run 2: Steps from dnc and enmity douse when up, took on average 4 ja's to proc.

[Ocara]

I was the one who had said we saw proc's on 11th voke, but they were blue and yellow procs. Once 5/5 and getting red out proc rate was (small sample size), run 1: Voke and Enmity douse when up, took on average 2 JA's to proc. run 2: Steps from dnc and enmity douse when up, took on average 4 ja's to proc.

Still doesn't make any sense for it to be referred to as anything but a proc % rate. Kill more TE, proc % rate increases. Only way phrasing it as some kind of 'stacking' mechanism makes sense is if nobody has ever procced within X ja/ws/spells and there is some minimum required before you can proc, which I don't see any proof for either.

Edit: not specifically responding to you I guess.

[Lobby]

I was the one who had said we saw proc's on 11th voke, but they were blue and yellow procs. Once 5/5 and getting red out proc rate was (small sample size), run 1: Voke and Enmity douse when up, took on average 2 JA's to proc. run 2: Steps from dnc and enmity douse when up, took on average 4 ja's to proc.

Well, this seems to start to confirm a stack range 1-4 for now then.
In my own experience it is almost same range, with JA at least.

[Mojo]

I've had to do 10+ JA to proc even with 5 TE, although it's rare. JA seems to proc the quickest (but let's not talk about it so no JA nerf !)

[Gwynplaine]

Anyone seen any procs by a smn yet?

[TehKerm]

The run i just finished in sandy i saw for the 1st time since update it taking more than 5 JAs to proc, but it didnt hit 10+ who knows, but a % for a JA to hit seems reasonable.

[Mojo]

I hit 10+ just now in Xarcabard, although sometimes it would occur first time. Probably a set percentage.

[Zanark]

Ok so far with all my farming I`ve noticed Treasure Hunter does little to almost nothing on affecting drops. The only time I ever get something to drop is if I proc the mob. So with that being said, what are everyone`s thoughts on how if at all Treasure Hunter affects drops anymore? I do have thief`s knife, armlets, feet +2, and drops still suck if I do not proc the mobs.

[Fievel]

Ok so far with all my farming I`ve noticed Treasure Hunter does little to almost nothing on affecting drops. The only time I ever get something to drop is if I proc the mob. So with that being said, what are everyone`s thoughts on how if at all Treasure Hunter affects drops anymore? I do have thief`s knife, armlets, feet +2, and drops still suck if I do not proc the mobs.

Sigh

[TehKerm]

Ok so far with all my farming I`ve noticed Treasure Hunter does little to almost nothing on affecting drops. The only time I ever get something to drop is if I proc the mob. So with that being said, what are everyone`s thoughts on how if at all Treasure Hunter affects drops anymore? I do have thief`s knife, armlets, feet +2, and drops still suck if I do not proc the mobs.

Actually TH is dynamic to your coin rate, we have been doing Dyna since update everyday, every run has netted us 80-90 coins per run with full TEs + Staggers + TH, past 2 runs however we tried with no TH and sadly the end result has been 40-50 coins only, + low AF drops if that even matters anymore.. so yeah, TH or dont go unless your solo and have no other choice. But honestly i prefer 3-4 coins per mob + af high drop rate compared to 1-2 and occasionally on a blue moon 3 with no TH on.

[Zanark]

Hmmm good info, thanks

[TehKerm]

Heh np i spose.
So in the past 4 runs we have accumulated 2 montionts, and 2 more montionts out of pure ordelle drops. 1 100 byne bill and 1 jadeshell, all made thru pure singles, i think were doing ish so far lol.

[Churchill]

Could be that you have a specific JA/WS/Spell that triggers the mob, so for example let's say it is supposed to be a dagger WS. If you do a dagger WS, it procs, if you do not, then it changes to say, Great Axe. If you don't do Great Axe next, it can revet to something else, so let's say it's dagger again and now you do a dagger WS and proc it.

I've sat there messing with AE/VB/SB on the same mob on the spamming the same WS and I've proc'd as late as WS10+ many times. Same works with Provoke spam, dia spam, etc.

[Zanark]

I have yet to see a 100 piece drop. I`ve killed a few NMs in Xar and have gotten proc on all, and nothing. What has dropped 100s for you TehKerm?

[TehKerm]

I have yet to see a 100 piece drop. I`ve killed a few NMs in Xar and have gotten proc on all, and nothing. What has dropped 100s for you TehKerm?

Ive become fond of camping the orc NM in front of the AH in sandy. easy camp as it has a mixture of everything there, so we jus camp out there and grab it each pop, in between windows rape everything :D zone boss pop is at the camp too, so its nice if we need to pop that. But yeah weve gotten two montionts in two runs off that NM. We havent had much luck on 100s in xarc though, even with th and procs.

[ceown]

Hm.. Interesting.
As I camped the same NM in sandy myself with a theif and staggered red on it every time, and the best I saw was 4 coins and a NM pop.

I've yet to see a 100 peice drop off any nm.

[Skeelo]

We popped the smn nm in xarc, no proc, got af/100/pop item. Doubt it will ever happen again.

[Cleverness]

Hm.. Interesting.
As I camped the same NM in sandy myself with a theif and staggered red on it every time, and the best I saw was 4 coins and a NM pop.

I've yet to see a 100 peice drop off any nm.

Every dyna run, but say 1-2 that were messing around with the new dyna and all, we've gotten at least 2 100's per run. Mostly luck but what matters is you try and get in as many NM kills as you can. I have yet to see a 100 drop from a statue since the update but it's prolly still possible(would like a SS if someone has just so I know whether to tell my THF to stop pulling them lol). If you were with just a THF + yourself and just doing 1 NM every 15 minutes(the city NM's seem to be timed spawn from what we've done, Xarc lottery and Beau Idunno) then yea, you aren't gonna be seeing many 100's. But they do exist, and can drop with just TH. I don't know yet if red even effects drop rates of 100's, since it definitely effects regular coins. Our sample size is obviously not large but it's more or less the same on proc/no proc since the first few runs we didn't have many proc drops due to alot of this info only being pretty recent, so procs were more or less random.

[Mojo]

100s don't come from statues unless there is some trick to it. Someone would have observed one at this point. However, I think there are some good camps in Xarcabard depending on your set up and it only takes about 10 minutes for 2 people to split up and get all 5 TE. That leaves a lot of time for farming. NIN/DNC + THF/DNC + WHM (dual boxed) able to get 150 coins in 90 minutes, no 100 pieces.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Had a proc from summoner:
[00:59:37] Diabolos readies Night Terror.
[00:59:40] The Vanguard Chanter casts Valor Minuet IV.
[00:59:40] The Vanguard Chanter gains the effect of Minuet.
[00:59:40] Jimbobsonofgod's attack staggers the fiend!
[00:59:44] Diabolos uses Night Terror.
[00:59:44] The Vanguard Chanter takes 663 points of damage.

[01:10:25] Garuda readies Predator Claws.
[01:10:26] The Vanguard Prelate uses Manafont.
[01:10:28] Jimbobsonofgod's attack staggers the fiend!

[01:02:16] Shiva readies Heavenly Strike.
[01:02:19] Jimbobsonofgod's attack staggers the fiend!
[01:02:22] Shiva uses Heavenly Strike.
[01:02:22] Puu Timu the Phantasmal takes 1444 points of damage.

I guess smn BP count as spells?