Neo-Dynamis Changes

[shepardG]

Just got done farming some pops in dyna-windurst, and as thf/nin, as guessed, ninjitsu magic would proc randomly per spell, but I had to cast over 2-10 times. this sample size was maybe 10-15 mobs though, so not very conclusive. I wonder if the % to proc with a spell, is further diminished by casting magic that is /subed. have to check in a bit, going back in in about an hour.

[AzazaelFenrir]

The diff between mnk h2h and staff skill is only ~30-40 skill... if there was some kind of skill mod I doubt you'd notice with such a relatively small gap compared to a sub-level skill such as the blu/dia example where there's a 150+ difference. Really we need more data before drawing any kind of conclusions.

not when my staff isn't quite capped and I have h2h merits + gear

I do see the point though. I just think at this moment skill is the only thing that has any affect on proc percentages.

[ceown]

So did bastok the other day, finnaly saw a 100 bill drop from one of the nms. It appears I just have really really really horrible luck with the nms. (and yes we stagger every one of them.)

So I'm eyeing the SL and the attestation NMs (specificly the monk\thf\nin one.)
Any ideas aside from Pdef from a summoner for a 4 to 6 man strat? Would like a better tactic that could be used more than once per run.
Between the 6 of us we have pretty much every job leveled, and multiples of the same job (mostly monk, whm, smn, pld, thf)
Would also prefer to be able to farm between pops instead of just trying to run through 6 nms in sucession in one run as well.

However I'm suspecting I'm going to more or less need to gear the group for just pounding out 6 of one nm and calling it as we won't have the capcity for much past that focus.

[Plow]

So did bastok the other day, finnaly saw a 100 bill drop from one of the nms. It appears I just have really really really horrible luck with the nms. (and yes we stagger every one of them.)

So I'm eyeing the SL and the attestation NMs (specificly the monk\thf\nin one.)
Any ideas aside from Pdef from a summoner for a 4 to 6 man strat? Would like a better tactic that could be used more than once per run.
Between the 6 of us we have pretty much every job leveled, and multiples of the same job (mostly monk, whm, smn, pld, thf)
Would also prefer to be able to farm between pops instead of just trying to run through 6 nms in sucession in one run as well.

However I'm suspecting I'm going to more or less need to gear the group for just pounding out 6 of one nm and calling it as we won't have the capcity for much past that focus.

Couple shadowbinds and an rdm/blm?

[Esvedium]

Can city timed-pop NMs drop 100 pieces? Did Windy last night, got all 5 TE's, and moved between the blm/rdm/mnk timed pop NMs since they're close, killing nq mobs while waiting on NM repops, we staggered all the rdm&blm ones and all but one of the mnks and didn't see any 100s. I thought I read on here somewhere that they can drop 100s, but can anyone confirm? Just bad luck?

[Cornmaker]

i can confirm this friend and me duo bastok every day and kill timed NMs...the MNK one gave us a 100 bill...but that was like 4 days ago...we're like 0/12 now on 100 with stagger/th8/9 :/

[Byrthnoth]

Has anyone found Oneiros Helm, Oneiros Barbut, Oneiros Headgear, or Oneiros Coif yet?

I assumed they dropped from the Arch zone bosses in cities, but unless I'm missing something they haven't been reported and each Arch zone boss has two drops reported (except DL, who has 3). Perhaps they drop from the NQ zone boss with a low %?

[Esvedium]

i can confirm this friend and me duo bastok every day and kill timed NMs...the MNK one gave us a 100 bill...but that was like 4 days ago...we're like 0/12 now on 100 with stagger/th8/9 :/

We had 4 ppl in zone, I know we killed more than 12 of them, and like I said, only one didn't have stagger, but no TH (derpderp@dyna without thf), but gonna try again tonight, hopefully, but this time with TH.

[ceown]

Can city timed-pop NMs drop 100 pieces? Did Windy last night, got all 5 TE's, and moved between the blm/rdm/mnk timed pop NMs since they're close, killing nq mobs while waiting on NM repops, we staggered all the rdm&blm ones and all but one of the mnks and didn't see any 100s. I thought I read on here somewhere that they can drop 100s, but can anyone confirm? Just bad luck?

I got mine off the smn one by the zoneline to gustburg in bastok. But I've been slaughtering various nms all over the zones. Stagger every time, with th 6+ minimum and only had one drop in a week of going in. I'm leaning towards relativly low drop rates.

Couple shadowbinds and an rdm/blm?

Only one of us actually has ranger, and it's 75. So shadowbind is sadly out. But if it's bindable the rdm might be able to do that.
We're eyeing a rdm\blm for chainspell stun should things go south in a hurry, but we're aiming to do more than one pop, so we're trying to go with an setup that'd allow multiple pops.

We're also looking at the one whm to finish ToAU to get alex for perfect defence and go smn should we go that route, so we have both options should we not be able to kill the formor or shadow lord in time and need the chainspell stun.

[Flic]

Any maps out there showing where lotto nms can pop in beau, Ive managed to find a couple of NMs just randomly and found maps that show where te are etc, but not one that shows where the nms can pop.

[Lyramion]

What drops the Pop items for Beauc NQ Boss? Friend still stick without a win there...

[grevenilvec75]

Has anyone found Oneiros Helm, Oneiros Barbut, Oneiros Headgear, or Oneiros Coif yet?

I assumed they dropped from the Arch zone bosses in cities, but unless I'm missing something they haven't been reported and each Arch zone boss has two drops reported (except DL, who has 3). Perhaps they drop from the NQ zone boss with a low %?

Interesting that they are all helms. And that there are 4 of them.

[Radec]

What drops the Pop items for Beauc NQ Boss? Friend still stick without a win there...

Any lotto-pop old NM in beauc, just pick an area and start clearing beastmen.

[Foldypaws]

Man, whoever decided that NMs should be able to Benediction multiple times needs to be chained to a radiator and graped in the mouth.

[Anariodin]

You misunderstand my question. I'm saying, for those people who use ninjutsu to proc, do they do so as nin main or nin sub? If they've tried both, how do their success rates compare main vs sub.

Because my (admittedly very limited) testing seems to suggest that Dia works better from a RDM than it does a /RDM.

Dia as RDM only works better due to Fast Cast. Dia on RDM is like a continuous thing. WHM/BLM you cycle through Dia/Bio so as to get the most out of the limited time you get when your DD curb stomp the squishies (as i like to call them). RDM is best for MA proc. dia.dia.dia...and so on. ALSO procing with Para II/Slow II/Blind II adds insult to injury

[Plow]

Dia as RDM only works better due to Fast Cast. Dia on RDM is like a continuous thing. WHM/BLM you cycle through Dia/Bio so as to get the most out of the limited time you get when your DD curb stomp the squishies (as i like to call them). RDM is best for MA proc. dia.dia.dia...and so on. ALSO procing with Para II/Slow II/Blind II adds insult to injury

just dia>dia2>dia etc works if you don't have a ton of fast cast

also, my fave is sleeping an add and getting a proc with it

[Cymmina]

Dia as RDM only works better due to Fast Cast. Dia on RDM is like a continuous thing. WHM/BLM you cycle through Dia/Bio so as to get the most out of the limited time you get when your DD curb stomp the squishies (as i like to call them). RDM is best for MA proc. dia.dia.dia...and so on. ALSO procing with Para II/Slow II/Blind II adds insult to injury

Last time I was in Dynamis was as a trio. I would hold a mage slept as BRD and cycle through threnodies until I either triggered or there was nothing close by for pulling. Being able to cycle through spells without waking is pretty handy.

[Cleverness]

We had 4 ppl in zone, I know we killed more than 12 of them, and like I said, only one didn't have stagger, but no TH (derpderp@dyna without thf), but gonna try again tonight, hopefully, but this time with TH.

From all the farming I've done, I don't think red proc effects 100's at all. We sometimes dont proc certain NMs(WS ones, if it procs while dying cool, if not oh well not gonna hold a squishy mob for that long when I went it dead asap so it pops again soon) and the number of nonproc drops to proc drops for us is way too different for red to effect 100's in the runs we've done so far. Best bet is just to proc everything for singles, and set yourself up in a camp that'll let you kill as many NMs as you can for a chance at 100's.

[Mahoro]

For people who have done Dyna-Xarca, are there are specific safe camps for NM's you have across? Goal was to build Dynamis Lord pops. Looking at the map, it seems all the DL-dropping NM's are clustered in the middle of the zone, so I was just curious if people are roaming or setting up camp? Thanks!

[TehKerm]

For people who have done Dyna-Xarca, are there are specific safe camps for NM's you have across? Goal was to build Dynamis Lord pops. Looking at the map, it seems all the DL-dropping NM's are clustered in the middle of the zone, so I was just curious if people are roaming or setting up camp? Thanks!

I just camp where raum pops dead in the middle bit of the map near where the 1st set of eyes was back in the day, Since THF hands seem to still be in high demand. Keeps farming one spot simple and raum pop every 10-15 mins if your killing the thiefs every time they pop. Im sure there's better ways, im just lazy.