Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Xera]

Went ahead and altered Buburimu to reflect the multiple reported TE-20min positions. No promises on accuracy just yet. :3

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Any more evidence of the possible spawns would be appreciated! (especially outside of Bubu).

[Stefanos]

Ok, here's what I got:

This could just be my luck, but I only seemed to get Revelatory Juju to drop in Buburimu when we didn't have subs. Got about 3 in 20 minutes, 1 from Mandys, 2 from Efts. We tried the beastmen without subs for a bit but nothing new seemed to drop. Our 5th TE, the 20 minute one, was a Quadav TE, not Yag or Orc, so adding that to help confirm the above map. We also got a Cagebeast Blood from a Yag NM. Hope this help out some.

[kidimposter]

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Dynamis Qufim
Based on previous findings, pointing out potential 20m TE locations.

[Atoreis]

Also confirmed you do not need to lock sub to get -1 to drop (as I thought yesterday and spent half the run subjob locked for no reason.) Went in today with everyone unlocked and got a ton of -1, af (off a few beastman during TE gathering), coins and accessories.

They never said you need. They said you need to have locked sub to get items for AF2+2 but they cancelled those from this update.

[Churchill]

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Could only find 4 TE. I searched the zone for nearly an hour and 30mins and then did proc tests on the nightmare. Mandy was procing w/ JA like it was a MNK mob and the dhalmel proced like it was a warrior. I assume this can be applied with the rest. They always droped the same coin type. All the beastmen droped their normal coins like yagado whiteshells while gobs still drop all three types. Note this was all done as a lv90 BST the VT mobs i marked on map might be DC-T now at 95?

Sorry cant link html image if anyone can says i need 10 posts.

damn, guy was contributin' and got hammered. ISLA WHYYYYY

[Kensagaku]

Ok, here's what I got:

This could just be my luck, but I only seemed to get Revelatory Juju to drop in Buburimu when we didn't have subs. Got about 3 in 20 minutes, 1 from Mandys, 2 from Efts. We tried the beastmen without subs for a bit but nothing new seemed to drop. Our 5th TE, the 20 minute one, was a Quadav TE, not Yag or Orc, so adding that to help confirm the above map. We also got a Cagebeast Blood from a Yag NM. Hope this help out some.

So the Bijou drops from Nightmare mobs? I'll give it a shot tonight with subjob unlocked to see if I can get one, since the only thing on my plate will be smacking down AB. Also wonder what the ???-spawned Dragons are gonna be like. >.> I wonder if they're named after the other four Buburimu Dragons (there were eight pre-update, one for each TP move, now there's four), and how powerful they are? It sounds fun, honestly.

[Byrthnoth]

I'm starting to compile proc info here.

Nothing is guaranteed to be correct (I can't tell if the guy was being hypothetical or actually posting his experience), but prz let me know if you've got something to add.

[Romyro]

Did Dynmais-Valkurm last night.

I apologize if this is all old news already…just wanted to try and help

Not sure if the TE-#4 (Goblin’s Statue) on the BG-Wiki is correct (or maybe large roaming area). I actually found it near TE-1 and NAN on the east side of the map. All the others seemed to be in place. Basically 4 TEs were on east of entrance and one far west.

We fought yags at first, but the last half hour ish we hit treants/manticors. I don’t remember the exact timing but I want to say around 16:30 to 1:30 was WS procs, 1:30 to 8:30 possibly magic (but we had no form so cant guarantee). 8:30 to 16:30 was JA procs. Might have been just a lucky run but procing seemed much easier. 1-3 WS or JAs during the correct times. Got pently of Buju (boss item I assume).

Our group was 95Bst/dnc, 93Bst/dnc, 95Thf/dnc. We fought in the same area but kinda split up as mobs dropped pretty easy. As far as currency, with Dippy mobs dropped 3 coins most of the time. I used the Tiger on a few kills and saw only 1 or 2 drop more often.

Also wanted to note, got tons of relic. Almost never a time where a relic piece was NOT in the pool. However we didn’t get any -1 pieces (we had subjobs unlocked).

[Romyro]

After looking briefly at the proc page, I noticed in other zones had different families proc-ing at different times. For our run, the Manticores and Treants proc’d the same for us. Once we got to JA proc timing, I killed some manticores because I remember long ago I got monster belt off them and my buddy wanted one.

Also…probably obvious but Hippogryphs are still true-sight.

[Churchill]

i.imgur.com/QxrVl.jpg (can't link html, 1st post lol)
Found all 5 TEs.

Procs for nightmare named mobs were held on a cycle. Magic>JA>WS. Tested on the beach west of entrance on mandies/crawlers/crabs. Procs change every 8 hours on 00/08/16. Procs can change while engaged. You can cycle between certain mobs if you are heavy/light in some procs. Ex. Time=20:00 Mandies are magic, Crawlers are ja, Crabs are ws. We killed crawlers and crabs with our party of xxx/dnc and dnc/xxx since magic procs suck to work on. Time=00:00 Mandies are now ja, Crawlers are now ws, Crabs are now magic.

Either this proc system is subject to change, and not 100% or you post this wrong or posted false information.

Time extension map is correct from your post, though it's Adamantking Image and Avatar Idol.

Mob placement is also incorrect, crawlers mandies and scorps are all near the west beach area. Crawlers are right on the ramp where crabs used to be, Scorps on the on left side and Mandies on the rights side (where mages would stand to fight the MB)

Dhalmels were placed correctly as were rabbits. Didn't check anywhere because I wanted to test procs.

I didn't see what job all of the beastmen NM's were, but the Goblin NM is a BST named Woodnix Shrillwhistle. The Yagudo have a SMN but he wasn't up when I went back to check the name. I'm not sure if they respawn different NM's, but I did kill the BST twice with him repopping as the BST both times.

Spent the full time from 16-24 trying to proc JA on crawler, didn't get a single proc from anything nor did I get a WS proc. Once it changed to 00:00 JA's proc'd easily and abundantly. At 0800 JA's no longer proc'd, and I couldn't get anything to proc for about 3m while spamming WS and Magic until finally WS proc around 10:00. It remained WS until 16:00 where I swapped over to Mandies to see if they followed the same pattern/if some of what you said was correct// to test if it may be random as to what the cycle is. According to your system, at 16:00 Crawler would be JA and Mandy would be Magic, so I assumed that if Crawlers were Magic (as they were for me at 16:00) that Mandy would be WS (as they were in your system at 0800-1600)

This proved to be true and WS proc mandy at 1600 until I ran out of time and killed that BST again.

Other notes:

*I had SJ unlocked
*TE took ~30m to get without much trouble (3box, with links and no sleep)
*WS have a much noticeably lower proc rate
*Singles dropped pretty readily even without TE's
*Accessories/-1 dropped readily, but not too different from when I remember doing COP Dyna post update. I got 3x Abys Cape, 1xSarashi, 1xScouts belt, 1xAF2, 3xAF-1 and 61 currency
*Crawlers drop Bynes
*Mandies drop O.Pieces

Procs as I encountered them: (JA -> WS -> MA)
0000-0800: Crawler JA | Mandy MA
0800-1600: Crawler WS | Mandy JA
1600-2400: Crawler MA | Mandy WS

[Romyro]

*Crawlers drop Bynes
*Mandies drop O.Pieces

I don’t have much experince in the CoP – dynamis zones so again, I apologze if this is common knowledge but in Valkrum
Maticroes and Treants drop Shells

[Byrthnoth]

I'm trying to keep this updated as new information comes out. I'll probably hit Qufim tonight myself . . . still need DNC feet +1!

[Churchill]

Crawler dropped bynes fool.

[Casey_]

Yesterday night I was bored and did an experiment in dynamis-valkurm and I went in with SJ unlocked and immediately started killing Nightmare Manticores until I timed out. I got 3 tukuku whiteshells and a commodore tricorne -1. Safe to say relic -1 doesn't matter about SJ locked/unlocked, but maybe drop rate has something to do with it. I also got 0 time extensions for science.

[Slycer]

In case it hasn't been pointed out yet, anything with "Moepapa" or "Tjukurrpa" in the name from the new update is most definitely from new NMs in Dreamworld Dynamis. Cursory google investigation on those words yields all sorts of results about "dreams" and "nightmares." I'm sure "Portus" gear is also included (portus as in door, threshold, etc., and the stats line up with some of the Moepapa/Tjukurrpa stuff). Aife as well because of the way the stats line up with the Tjukurrpa/Moepapa.

So that's...

Moepapa Mace
Moepapa Medal
Moepapa Pendant
Moepapa Stone
Moepapa Annulet
Moepapa Ring
Tjukurrpa Axe
Tjukurrpa Medal
Tjukurrpa Gauntlets
Tjukurrpa Belt
Tjukurrpa Mantle
Tjukurrpa Annulet
Tjukurrpa Ring
Portus Collar
Portus Annulet
Portus Ring
Aife's Bow
Aife's Medal
Aife's Mantle
Aife's Annulet
Aife's Ring
Aife's Pumps

[Stefanos]

So the Bijou drops from Nightmare mobs? I'll give it a shot tonight with subjob unlocked to see if I can get one, since the only thing on my plate will be smacking down AB. Also wonder what the ???-spawned Dragons are gonna be like. >.> I wonder if they're named after the other four Buburimu Dragons (there were eight pre-update, one for each TP move, now there's four), and how powerful they are? It sounds fun, honestly.

That seemed to be my luck, the nightmare mobs were a lot easier than the beastmen, so it was easier to kill more of them. I tried getting the juju with my sub intact the night before for about 45 minutes, not one dropped. I don't know if it means anything, but when I tried getting the juju the first time, with subs, we only had 4/5 TEs. When I got those 3 to drop last night, it was with all 5 TEs.

[kidimposter]

Either this proc system is subject to change, and not 100% or you post this wrong or posted false information.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I'll fix it. Crabs were down further on the beach past the crawlers towards bibiki bay entrance.

Procs for nightmare named mobs were held on a cycle. Magic>JA>WS. Tested on the beach west of entrance on mandies/crawlers/crabs. Procs change every 8 hours on 00/08/16. Procs can change while engaged. Procs can be different between different families of nightmare mobs. You can cycle between certain mobs if you are heavy/light in some procs.
Example Time=20:00 Mandies are magic, Crawlers are ja, Crabs are ws. Time=00:00 Mandies are now ja, Crawlers are now ws, Crabs are now magic.

I didn't have the exact procs during the times, we were just testing a bunch of different mobs constantly. I'll try to mark down exact times and procs tonight/tomorrow when I do valk/qufim again.

[Kensagaku]

That seemed to be my luck, the nightmare mobs were a lot easier than the beastmen, so it was easier to kill more of them. I tried getting the juju with my sub intact the night before for about 45 minutes, not one dropped. I don't know if it means anything, but when I tried getting the juju the first time, with subs, we only had 4/5 TEs. When I got those 3 to drop last night, it was with all 5 TEs.

Alright, I'll try first 5 TEs with sub, then if it doesn't drop, without. I really wanna try and beat up Apoc Beast.

Also, as a general statement, assuming that the four ??? drops drop from the IT groups of each beastman family? i.e. 1 from Gobbies, 1 from Orcs, etc?

Edit: Just got a Revelatory Bijou from Nightmare Mandragoras with subjobs unlocked, 5/5 TEs. So you don't need to lock subjobs.

[Eliane]

Anyone know about the 5th TE on the BG map of valkurm? Looking around the area near the secret beach for about 20 minutes and cannot find the Adamantking Image anywhere

[Kensagaku]

Heh, so I found the next bit of procs for you to update, Byrth!

Since Scorps were near Mandies/Crawlers and neither of the latter two were in their JA phase, thought I'd grab scorps and check their Procs. After 16:00 they were JA, so I'm assuming that they make a perfect triangle with the other two, with MA from 8:00-16:00, and WS from 00:00-8:00. They also drop Shells which confirms the sort of triangular relationship here.