Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Churchill]

Ya, was just coming in to post that cause I fell asleep after my second run yesterday. That makes it really easy lol.

[Byrthnoth]

Is the type of coin a monster drops constant?

[Churchill]

I would think so, I'm about to go back into Bubu and shit on anyone at my camp so I'll post if they're any different.

[Aemora]

Just dual-boxed Bubu on DNC and THF... TEs here wander a little, so when you hunt them down, make sure they are the right ones (none of this Effigy crap).

Camped on West Beach. Did Crawlers from 00:00>08:00, Mandies from 08:00>16:00 and Crabs from 16:00>24:00 so that every mob I fought was a JA proc. With a proc on (nearly) every single mob, and TH6-7, netted just over 150 coins of mixed quantity, of which total farm time was around 80 minutes. Got a bunch of -1's - NIN MNK PLD RDM BSTx2 obviously - and some accessories - DRG BLUx2 PLD - but the lolaward goes to the Goblin Bard I aggro'd when getting the Goblin TE, which, without TH or any procs, dropped the exact item I went in for - DNC Head ^^b

And ya, Crabs=Tukuku, Crawlers=Bynes, Mandies=Ordelles.

[Xera]

So it seems to be 3 mob types per coin type all sharing same proc time. Just need to fill in the blanks assuming this holds true.

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Buburimu
Bynes
Nightmare Crawler
Nightmare Raven

Coins
Nightmare Mandragora

Shells
Nightmare Scorpion
Nightmare Crab
Nightmare Dhalmel

???
Nightmare Uragnite
Nightmare Bunny
Nightmare Eft

Qufim
Bynes
Nightmare Gaylas
Nightmare Kraken
Nightmare Roc

Coins
Nightmare Snoll
Nightmare Stirge
Nightmare Weapon

Shells
Nightmare Diremite
Nightmare Raptor
Nightmare Tiger

Valkurm
Bynes
Nightmare Fly
Nightmare Flytrap

Coins
Nightmare Hippogryph
Nightmare Sabotender

Shells
Nightmare Goobbue
Nightmare Manticore
Nightmare Treant

???
Nightmare Sheep
Nightmare Funguar

[Byrthnoth]

Just came here to re-post what I already posted on FFXIAH.

Nightmare mob procs are decided by the type of currency they drop.
Going from 8 in-game hour intervals, the patterns vary as follow:
Shells = WS > MA > JA
Bynes = JA > WS > MA
O. Piece = MA > JA > WS

Might be old news, might not, but I just wanted to share.

I'm not sure this is entirely set in stone, because it conflicts with a lot of reports. It might be true for all of Buburimu though.

Xera, if you look at this page I have most of the reported drops written down. I can only vouch for Qufim though.

[Xera]

Edited those on. Odd that Valk would break pattern of the other two assuming that holds true.

[Kensagaku]

I'm gonna be hitting up Bubu for a good farming run today but since I usually set aside a few minutes to hunt down the NMs I know for 100s (and the occasional regular mob... still need my DNC head), I can prolly afford a few more to go fill in the blanks on what coins the others drop at least, and see if they follow the pattern from FFXIAH.

[Modoru]

I find that to be a little odd, but it would just require a little test real quick. Anyone want to venture forward and confirm? I don't think I'll be doing any oher neo dynamis just yet.
Also, I THINK bunnies were coin, but I can't remember for the life of me.

[kul]

Just came here to re-post what I already posted on FFXIAH.

Nightmare mob procs are decided by the type of currency they drop.
Going from 8 in-game hour intervals, the patterns vary as follow:
Shells = WS > MA > JA
Bynes = JA > WS > MA
O. Piece = MA > JA > WS

Might be old news, might not, but I just wanted to share.

Tried sending Byrth a tell last night, but just missed him. Can vouch that the above is correct in valk, for shells at least. After grabbing all TEs, camped manticores for the remainder and proc'd every mob with dnc JA between 16-00, then moved to WS. Would post a screenshot, but posting this from my phone.

[Modoru]

My party went near uragnites last time, they're just past crabs in the beach, but there's no way we were fighting those lawl.
So, I probably won't be able to tell you what they drop.

Is the type of coin a monster drops constant?

Yes, yes it is. Every crab we killed on both runs dropped tukukus, every crawler we killed was bynes, and such.


Also, I'm not completely sure on this, but anyone able to confirm if
4TE -> 1~2 currency drop max
5TE -> 3~4 currency drop max ?

It seemed like that was the case [our first run never got number 5, for some reason, but we did on the second one], and the difference was staggering.

[Byrthnoth]

This is how I think it works for currency. I saw no reason to doubt it last night. I can also vouch that the TE for Qufim can spawn in any of the three VT mob groups.

Basically, no proc = low drop rate (~10%?) of one coin
Blue Proc = Adds another low drop rate (~20%?) slot for another coin
Grellow proc = Adds a high drop rate (~50%?) slot for another coin
Red Proc = Adds a 100% drop rate coin slot

I know I've gotten 0-coin and 3-coin Grellow procs. I've never gotten a 2-coin no-proc or a 0-coin Red Proc

Edit: Also, people being full of shit about what-procs-when isn't anything new. I remember going through the Abyssea proc thread sorting shit out. In the end I started ignoring everything that had fewer than three reports.

I expect we'll get a few more reports today, and tomorrow I will re-format the table and make it all that much easier.

[Modoru]

Well, I don't know. If I'm lucky, I might do another Bubu run today. If so, I'll check out the remainder of mobs.
I haven't bothered screenshotting because I don't put up filters and the chat just tends to fly when you have 5 crabs on you. :s

On a similar note, has anyone managed to proc the Dragon NMs? We couldn't seem to last night, I think.

[Byrthnoth]

Tonight I'm going to go Raptors -> Krakens -> Weapons -> Repeat and see how much currency I can pull down.

[NynJa]

Edit: Also, people being full of shit about what-procs-when isn't anything new. I remember going through the Abyssea proc thread sorting shit out. In the end I started ignoring everything that had fewer than three reports.

Ahh...the good days
"THERE IS NO PATTERN YOU FUCKING RETARD, SE DOESNT DO PATTERNS, ITS RANDOM, KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKHEAD, I DID ASPIR ON WINDSDAY SO YOURE WRONG"...

[Churchill]

Did Bubu again at the same camp, same proc system so I just rotated between the JA procs.

I saw more NM's up this time, especially at the orc camp. I'm not sure if the NM's are on standard 10m timers but it would seem so as I didn't see some of the other NM's I saw yesterday up. Kind of sucks if you're trying to do a MB run and none of them are up...could waste a lot of time or an entire run just waiting for repops. (Not that Apoc Beast is hard but yeah)

Came out with 164 currency 3boxing WHM THF MNK...a larger group with more ability to proc and kill could pull considerably more...I think the most I managed with my 3 (MNK doesn't sub and will never sub /DNC lol) was ~60-80 a run.

[Byrthnoth]

I challenge you to a currency-off. If I get 250 currency today, I get to trade it all for your 250 Alexandrite.

[Slycer]

Sabotenders in Valkurm were coins, btw. gtfo 2000 Needles, never again.

[Churchill]

I challenge you to a currency-off. If I get 250 currency today, I get to trade it all for your 250 Alexandrite.

I would, except my alex can only go up in price and your currency can only go down. I'm already valuing currency at 5k/1 so at that rate I'd be losing over 2m

Plus I still have to go do ZR today so I should have another ~50-150 Alex haha. Going back in now though, that camp is sexy for me

[Byrthnoth]

Darn, haha. If we knew which the last Bronze one was in that zone we could fill the rest of it out.