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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    I don't see how tav has the same potential the other COP zones I agree but we pull in consistently well over 300 coins in bub/valk/quf, but in tav the best we've done is 250 there just isn't enough EP mobs to go around for more then a soloist.
    We did the hallway of bees (each get a hallway then pull 2-3 tauri each while waiting for repop)
    We had to wait 40-60 seconds after clearing all worms
    We did the 5 fish and then killed 3-4 EP tauri while waiting for repop
    (all alternate mobs are T and 2 bugards)
    And without lucky proc's from the screwed up tauri system thats about the best as we can see it.
    Tav can't support more than one group thats for sure, but still can rake in lots of currency. The key is to not just target one nightmare during the bottleneck times. With tav, if you have more than 3, you have to switch up your strategy a bit. Instead of doing just ja procs, you split group and have 2 do ja and 2 do magic or ws. The tauri are great in there. they are like a small buffer to each currency time. Sometimes tav is the best zone when all the other zones have 18+ in them. We normally only go to tav when the other zones are packed. It's still better than city farming.

    Also, the bronze time is the most annoying since there's only like 6 fish. We had to clear all 8ish tauri with the fish to stay productive.

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    -_- my biggest issue in Buburimu is there are definitely not enough crawlers to support one group of people, and birds are spread out to far, one thing I noticed tho bynes have a stupid high drop rate over the other currency in Bubu.. at least for my group, walked out with 140 bynes tonight, last night had 109 with one person soloing all the crawlers and 2 people over at ravens.

    397 tonight, SJ on.. I'm not sure with white staggers proc being so low if it would be worth farming without subjobs on, the monsters are squishy, that's for sure.. I'm tempted to try a beastmen farm once to see what they'd offer up, I see a ton of NMs up at all times makes me wonder if they're all time spawned like in cities or lotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    -_- my biggest issue in Buburimu is there are definitely not enough crawlers to support one group of people, and birds are spread out to far, one thing I noticed tho bynes have a stupid high drop rate over the other currency in Bubu.. at least for my group, walked out with 140 bynes tonight, last night had 109 with one person soloing all the crawlers and 2 people over at ravens.

    397 tonight, SJ on.. I'm not sure with white staggers proc being so low if it would be worth farming without subjobs on, the monsters are squishy, that's for sure.. I'm tempted to try a beastmen farm once to see what they'd offer up, I see a ton of NMs up at all times makes me wonder if they're all time spawned like in cities or lotto.
    I agree with the crawler sentiment.

    We've also been farming with SJs unlocked. We can kill MUCH faster with THF/DNC + BLU/DNC. Going DNCx2 would probably knock us down 100 singles or so anyway. We got 356 today.

    Interested to try the beastmen sometime as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    I have found that you sacrifice too much for white procs. Pretty sure you'll average more coins if you forgo trying for white all together and just go for proc/kill speed. We go bst/dnc for consistent coin returns.
    i figured it was like that, so tried nin/dnc thf/dnc + whm, first run 309 singles (had 20+ people in zone in last 40min~)
    so yeah, getting whites is not worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    -_- my biggest issue in Buburimu is there are definitely not enough crawlers to support one group of people, and birds are spread out to far, one thing I noticed tho bynes have a stupid high drop rate over the other currency in Bubu.. at least for my group, walked out with 140 bynes tonight, last night had 109 with one person soloing all the crawlers and 2 people over at ravens.

    397 tonight, SJ on.. I'm not sure with white staggers proc being so low if it would be worth farming without subjobs on, the monsters are squishy, that's for sure.. I'm tempted to try a beastmen farm once to see what they'd offer up, I see a ton of NMs up at all times makes me wonder if they're all time spawned like in cities or lotto.
    All beastmen NMs in Buburimu are lottery spawn; so far I've isolated for 100% sure the goblin BST and RDM placeholders, though I'm pretty confident as to the locations of the orc BLM and DRG, Quadav THF and PLD, and the Yagudo SMN, BRD, and NIN PHs too. They tend to be the only one of their kind by themselves in the general area of their NM, the exception so far being the BST (but PH is literally the very first mob on Widescan, which is a goblin BST).

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    We just go DNC, THF/NIN and WHM/BLM with the WHM being dual boxed since DNC doesnt lose anything not having a sub really and THF is really just there to TH and kill it after the DNC procs and moves on to the next mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    We just go DNC, THF/NIN and WHM/BLM with the WHM being dual boxed since DNC doesnt lose anything not having a sub really and THF is really just there to TH and kill it after the DNC procs and moves on to the next mob.
    What do you average a run doing that?

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    I'm still keen to hear testimonials of what some 2box setups bring in (as in, just the 2box, 2 characters total). It seems 2box+1 more makes more after split between the 2 players than I'm making solo, but at the moment I don't have the resources to try that with friends/ls members due to being the other side of the damn world and online at random times, so I'm looking to picks up some tips to improve if I'm averaging lower than most solo 2boxers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    I'm still keen to hear testimonials of what some 2box setups bring in (as in, just the 2box, 2 characters total). It seems 2box+1 more makes more after split between the 2 players than I'm making solo, but at the moment I don't have the resources to try that with friends/ls members due to being the other side of the damn world and online at random times, so I'm looking to picks up some tips to improve if I'm averaging lower than most solo 2boxers.
    150-200 DNC/--- RDM/THF w/out a white, zone doesn't terribly matter long as it's not too crowded (need about 6 mobs to have repops keep up) and the targets don't have annoying ws, namely, paralyze.

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    I tried dnc/ thief/dnc, and whm/dnc tri-boxed. got 301 last night 0 100s. Surprisingly whm/dnc does pretty good dmg, with some mystic boons thrown in to refill mp. Gimp whm mule was doing up to 1200 hexa with 380 boons hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radec View Post
    150-200 DNC/--- RDM/THF w/out a white, zone doesn't terribly matter long as it's not too crowded (need about 6 mobs to have repops keep up) and the targets don't have annoying ws, namely, paralyze.
    Hmm. I'm making much less than that, I'm averaging around 120-130 so looks like I need to improve somewhere. I tend to pull 3-4 mobs at a time, sometimes repose one on 4+ pulls. I'm riding Box Step and Animated Flourish recasts (and bully every 3min, and steal/mug, but can failed ja proc?), which can't be that slower JA proccing than a dnc main can it as they're universal timers? (Unless dnc has step/flourish ability delay gear/merits?). The only thing I can think of is switching target if still no red proc by 5%~ and using step/flourish on 5% mob whilst meleeing the next, but using WSs etc to increase killspeed often leaves me with 2~ mobs at 5%~ with no red proc, and me turning and spamming step/flourish, riding the timers meaning I can't effectively 2box my whm to run him out and pull more to melee.
    Also I've only been doing Valk and unless the 20min TE is at Quadav infront of Selbina, it's taking me at least 20 mins without any links/aggro to get all TEs... that's a lot of wasted time but I hear that's about normal for solo on all 3 zones.
    I'm going to try switching from hippo/tree/fly to hiippo/goobbue/fungar for less running and see how that works, along with switching targets and spamming step/flourish on old unprocced mob whilst meleeing new one, see how much that boosts coins by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Hmm. I'm making much less than that, I'm averaging around 120-130 so looks like I need to improve somewhere. I tend to pull 3-4 mobs at a time, sometimes repose one on 4+ pulls. I'm riding Box Step and Animated Flourish recasts (and bully every 3min, and steal/mug, but can failed ja proc?), which can't be that slower JA proccing than a dnc main can it as they're universal timers? (Unless dnc has step/flourish ability delay gear/merits?). The only thing I can think of is switching target if still no red proc by 5%~ and using step/flourish on 5% mob whilst meleeing the next, but using WSs etc to increase killspeed often leaves me with 2~ mobs at 5%~ with no red proc, and me turning and spamming step/flourish, riding the timers meaning I can't effectively 2box my whm to run him out and pull more to melee.
    Also I've only been doing Valk and unless the 20min TE is at Quadav infront of Selbina, it's taking me at least 20 mins without any links/aggro to get all TEs... that's a lot of wasted time but I hear that's about normal for solo on all 3 zones.
    I'm going to try switching from hippo/tree/fly to hiippo/goobbue/fungar for less running and see how that works, along with switching targets and spamming step/flourish on old unprocced mob whilst meleeing new one, see how much that boosts coins by.
    Well DNC will have Wild Flourish on a separate 30 sec timer they can use.

    And also I would say you should use Violent Flourish instead of Animated. It's recast timer is 10 sec shorter and it does damage as well.

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    Best camp for AF farm + Currency in Xarc after all TE

    Also first time i go in Xarc since new update, is there any tricky TE or they pretty much all easy like BCD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bendak View Post
    Well DNC will have Wild Flourish on a separate 30 sec timer they can use.

    And also I would say you should use Violent Flourish instead of Animated. It's recast timer is 10 sec shorter and it does damage as well.
    I did not know about the recast, that's great thanks a lot.
    I pulled 144 today in valk on flies/trees/hippos. Wanted to try goobbue/hippo/shroom but was packed up (flies/hippos/trees busy as well). But getting much better at proccing multiple mobs at once. Reckon I could get that up to the 150-200 range with an empty zone. Thanks for the tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Best camp for AF farm + Currency in Xarc after all TE

    Also first time i go in Xarc since new update, is there any tricky TE or they pretty much all easy like BCD?
    Xarc's TEs aren't bad, though be careful if you solo the eye, his Eyes on Me can HURT. *learned the hard way* None of them have any aggro immediately around them though so you can fight them where they pop.

    That aside, I found two camps that work generally well, though they tend to overlap. The first is the tower north of Nightmare Knuckles and such, roughly NW of the Quadav TE (I think it's the Quadav? Second one going from right to left at the bottom). Near that tower there are MNKx2, THFx2, and around back there's a NIN, THF, RNG, and a few other JA procs that I don't remember. The first MNK and THF pairs that I mentioned first are PHs for Duke Gomory and Count Raum, the MNK and THF NMs. Good spot for trying to get 100s, at least.

    The second camp is just south of there, on a slightly inclined area near the wall. You have the benefit of reaching one of the THF and MNK PHs (which can still spawn the NM, at very least the MNK) and just west of you there are the BST and WAR PHs among the mobs there.

    These may not be the "best" camps, but they're the ones I tended to use solo, and you can prolly range out a bit more with a party. Hope the info helps!

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    second run, nin/dnc thf/dnc whm/rdm , 1 bst in zone, 372 coins for the run
    .. i see no problem killing Ravens, they're squishy, one melee can well solo them fast enough, while other goes to mass-pull the others, and start Proc'ing~

    thx jimbobsonofgod, if not for you i'd be still trying for white procs, lol

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    I haven't been keeping up on this thread much, but did something change with aggro? I'm in bastok right now and nq quadav are aggroing thru sneak...seems to be blm and/or drk. Thought they changed this?

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    Weird aggro has happened to me there, I think it was the statues aggroing though.

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    Statues are sight and slower than quads - stat aggs, quads link and hit you first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Weird aggro has happened to me there, I think it was the statues aggroing though.
    Thought it was too, but I went to an area without any statues and had sneak up and a Blm sleepga'd me. Figured it was just being glitchy, but a pain in the ass trying to get the TE's!

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