Neo-Dynamis Changes

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-10-12 05:52

Wow, I didn't even realize wikia copied the information uncited. Apparently they discovered it and posted it based on personal experiences, because they cite no one. At least I put it all in one place for them, I guess?

Here is a better section on Dynamis proccing.

**dasva** · 2011-10-12 08:36

You should see their dynamis maps... still has old TE stuff lol

**Kensagaku** · 2011-10-12 10:28

Originally Posted by Buffy

I wish to understand the 37 pages of this thread, which I have read from time to time, but not from start to finish. I am seeing these reports of 100+ coins per run and interested if I am willing to go through the pain to do a relic horn for mule. Let me make sure I understand some points.

1. Each zone has TE. Killing all 5 TE increases the rate that you can proc mobs.
2. Mobs that are proc'd have a higher chance of dropping currency. Although it can happen without TE or without procs, simply far more rarely.
3. AF drops like candy and should be treated like flint stones it is now so common.
4. Procs depend on jobs of the mob you are fighting, i.e. magic will proc some mobs but not others, /ja some different mobs, etc.
5. You can proc the same mob multiple times.
6. Procs are nothing like Abyssea, don't even bother.

Please let me know if any of the above statements are incorrect, misunderstood, or partially true.

I have questions:

1. If dual-boxing for currency and wanting to work on stage 5 first (because I can, that's why), which requires 10k shells, should I farm Windy or a CoP zone, and why?
2. Should I simply camp somewhere with some mobs I can kill (After getting TE), or roam?
3. In the above scenario, using a thief main and whm mule, what would be your recommendation for farming shells? Thief has all normal subs, whm has an eclectic variety of subs.

What should I know that I haven't asked?

Alright, to address this in more detail:

1. Correct. A little more info for CoP areas: Four TEs (the 10 min extensions) spawn among the EP beastmen families, one per. The fifth (20 min) is among one of the four EM-T beastmen families; it can spawn in any of these.

2. There's a table under the Dynamis category of the BG-wiki that explains how procs affect currency. Basically there's only one slot for currency normally, and then after three TEs, a proc will add one potential drop slot, four TEs will add a second potential drop slot, and the fifth adds one 100% drop slot.

3. AF2? Well... sometimes it does, but not from Nightmare mobs, only beastmen can drop them. I know I spent eight or nine runs getting my Etoile Tiara. AF2-1? Drops like candy just as you said, though getting your specific one can be a pain (Tossed six pairs of NIN-1 hands after +1ing mine, four pairs of BST-1, three pairs of RDM-1, etc.). AF accessories? Specific to mobs based on their currency, Byrth compiled a list somewhere, irrc. They do have a high drop rate though.

4. Correct. Byrth linked a good source. A bit more in-depth: There are two systems of staggers which I fondly dub "Beastmen Procs" and "Nightmare Procs".
--->4a. Beastmen procs vary based on the mob's job; "Heavy" jobs (WAR, SAM, PLD, DRK, DRG) are WS procs, "Light" jobs (THF, MNK, RNG, NIN, BST) are JA procs, and "Mage" jobs (SMN, WHM, BLM, RDM, BRD) are magic procs. Good to memorize this if you're farming beastmen.
--->4b. Nightmare procs vary based on time of day and the monster. Every 8 hours (0-8, 8-16, 16-0) each "family" (based on currency type) switches procs. For example, all Nightmare mobs that drop T. Whiteshells are JA from one 8-hour period become WS the next 8-hour period. There's a good table for this at the bottom of Byrth's link.

5. Incorrect. One proc per mob.

6. Correct. There's a lot of differences; you can proc during JAs/spells, or while stunned. Procs can be any JA, spell, or WS that directly targets the mob. For example with JAs, berserk can't proc, but provoke can, because it targets the mob.

As for your questions:

1. I would farm a CoP zone personally. With enough staggers (magic, ja, ws) you can proc shell mobs all day around, or you can stick to JAs and get all three types of currency before trading the bynes and bronze for shells. CoP zones just have a much higher yield if you farm Nightmare mobs, and with everyone scrambling for a relic now that they're cheaper than before to get, trades can probably work out well.

2. It depends on your choice of farming tactic. If you're farming beastmen, then yes, you can stay in one specific location. If you're farming Nightmare mobs, there are a few camps where you don't need to move too much, though you do need to bounce between families. Like in Buburimu, you can camp near the ramp that leads down to the south beach and rotate between Crawlers, Mandragoras, and Scorpions, which are all fairly close.

3. THF/DNC + WHM could be a good combination, because /DNC provides several JA procs via steps and Flourishes. However, I feel that in terms of JA procs availability DNC/WAR is probably best if you're not aiming for white procs, as that gives you four stagger options every 30 seconds: Steps, Flourish 1 (one of: Violent/Animated/Desperate), Wild Flourish, and Provoke.

**Foldypaws** · 2011-10-12 11:11

Originally Posted by Kensagaku

DNC/WAR is probably best if you're not aiming for white procs, as that gives you four stagger options every 30 seconds: Steps, Flourish 1 (one of: Violent/Animated/Desperate), Wild Flourish, and Provoke.

A DNC/WAR actually has 11 chances to proc every 60 seconds. Steps 4 times, Violent flourish 3 times, wild flourish and provoke twice each.

**Kensagaku** · 2011-10-12 11:20

You're right, I was more thinking in general terms, with Provoke at a 30 second timer. Seemed off to me for a second but I'm tired so sue me. xD

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-10-12 11:20

Step, violent flourish, and wild flourish are all capped at 95% Acc so it's closer to 10.5. DNC/WAR is a JA proccing machine. I still get the occasional difficult mob, but last night it was pretty ridiculous. At one point I had four JA proc mobs terrored at once.

**Kensagaku** · 2011-10-12 11:28