General Update Changes (May-09-11)

[vinelle]

I think it's weirder that it went from fire(Has to be darksday, fire or earth) to lightning(Has to be Lightning, Light, Ice). That should be impossible.

Did people ever get discernment messages on pull before the update? I don't remember having that happen... I think this appears to be giving the message for what the weakness was last time it was being fought, because the new weakness hasn't been set until the claim has been completed. It must be checking discernment before completing the 'claiming and weakness setting' process...?

[Imoq]

Not sure if anyone else has had this problem but I got two different discernment messages while fighting Bakka yesterday. Luckily it wasn't like we were trying to yellow it, but it's still strange.

From two days ago:

Spoiler: show

http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/4...0a2b000aa0.jpg

Empousa was pulled with Elegy, said "Fire", then immediatly after it said "thunder".

It was iceday or something.

[Churchill]

Well so far every screenshot has been fire to lightning, maybe a bug?

[Koyangi]

Getting a Discernment proc on a pull in and of itself has never happened before this update, so I'm leaning heavily towards a glitch, especially since it's giving an element that doesnt correspond with what we know to be 100% true with Grellow procs and Discernment.

[Rocl]

Well so far every screenshot has been fire to lightning, maybe a bug?

I had it say Fire on pull then Water later, but aside from that it seems to be a glitch/bug/reading old weakness?

[grevenilvec75]

Did perpetuance stack with regen before? Cause it does now. Still no 2+ hour reraise though >_<.

[Churchill]

@Rocl
Haven't had it happen yet but I'd assume that since a few people have noted it was an element that would be impossible given current day/element.

Like you said though, could be due to a mob that hasn't been claimed since x day and SE messed something up with the update.

[catfat]

Did perpetuance stack with regen before? Cause it does now. Still no 2+ hour reraise though >_<.

Yeah

[Rocl]

@Rocl
Haven't had it happen yet but I'd assume that since a few people have noted it was an element that would be impossible given current day/element.

Like you said though, could be due to a mob that hasn't been claimed since x day and SE messed something up with the update.

I don't remember if it was Earthsday (the day that could have both of those procs) but the fact it's always been fire before something else is something unique. (Maybe because Firesday is the first day of the week [iirc] that it's the "First" element in the cycle and thus read?) Who knows, I really think its a bug though '-'

[Toth]

Not sure where to add this but I will try here.

I tested the buffs to the automaton WSes with some free time this morning.

With VVRRStout Arm, Armor Shatterer was doing 3400 damage O.o That's...quite an increase from 1200 averages (also with SA) XD

Looking forward to see how String Shredder was buffed.

[Juxtaposition]

Not sure if this was covered anywhere but pretty sure it hasn't been.

http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/x...rdofvoyage.png

Just red and blue on it.

[shepardG]

wellll, picked up a accursed belt off the AH, so far no latent like -10 mp/hp per tick, haven't checked it when engaged yet...

[Gokulo]

wellll, picked up a accursed belt off the AH, so far no latent like -10 mp/hp per tick, haven't checked it when engaged yet...

I heard the bearer can't be cured D;

[hey]

nvm.

[Aemora]

Not sure if this was covered anywhere but pretty sure it hasn't been.

http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/x...rdofvoyage.png

Just red and blue on it.

Was hoping they'd do something like this. I fully expect card/coins/jewels/stones to appear on all Scars Ironclads and crappy NM (the DIxion in Vunk, the crab in Mis and the Dragon in Attohwa, for example), all Visions 'other' NM (such as Ovni, Myrm~, Fistule, Turul, Karkadann). Hell, Caturae might even drop shit now.

[scaevola]

Most likely this is what today's update notes are referring to when they say certain NMs will provide Empyrean items. It really is the most elegant solution; if +2s can be had from NMs without tiered pop conditions there isn't much reason for people who want +2s to screw around with proccing red just to get in the way of those making weapons.

[Auronku]

Just contributing some more info in regards to Kings and Drop Rates since hadn't seen too much posted:

My Group:
Out of 17 Wyrm orbs, got roughly 3-4 Wyrm Beards from the BC
Out of 16 Fafnir pops, got 1 Nidhogg pop item
1/1 on Beard on Nidhogg

Clinpachi of Siren Server:
0/2 on KB pop items
2 Aspid pop items out of 6 or 7 Adamantoise pops, 1/2 egg
1/5 on Nidhogg pop items, 1/1 beard

Seeming to average out around the 1/6 or 1/7 range for the HQ items from the limited data I've looked at.

[Juxtaposition]

Was hoping they'd do something like this. I fully expect card/coins/jewels/stones to appear on all Scars Ironclads and crappy NM (the DIxion in Vunk, the crab in Mis and the Dragon in Attohwa, for example), all Visions 'other' NM (such as Ovni, Myrm~, Fistule, Turul, Karkadann). Hell, Caturae might even drop shit now.

Misareaux, Attohwa, and Vunkerl caturae have not had their drops changed, fought Kutharei last night and had normal drops. I would expect Iratham to drop +2s, though.

Most likely this is what today's update notes are referring to when they say certain NMs will provide Empyrean items. It really is the most elegant solution; if +2s can be had from NMs without tiered pop conditions there isn't much reason for people who want +2s to screw around with proccing red just to get in the way of those making weapons.

No. Today's update hasn't happened yet.

[scaevola]

Huh. Just seemed like Ovni was a weird choice for a +2 mob. FWIW, I killed Executioner in Vunkerl the other day and didn't get any +2s, so I guess my huge sample size of one kills your little theory right there

Seriously though, Ovni could just be the fourth LTP NM to give +2 items, bringing the zone in line with the others.

EDIT: wait wait wasn't there somebody on this page commenting on post-update Armor Shatterer numbers?

[Deader2818]

Carabosse, Briareus, Hadhayosh, Ruminator were the 4 that dropped +2s so no, Ovni is new.