General Update Changes (May-09-11)

[Julian]

The answer is obvious. Go spam the official forums until they fix it.

I agree though, when I heard the bb items were no longer 100%, i figured the drop rate would be kinda.. oh, I don't know, normal? Unless SE thinks everyone has 1000 KS+ sitting around...

[shaddix]

I plan on going 1/1 on egg with my 130 KS.

[Ophannus]

Get like 15 RNG to bounty shot ftw? It can be like 2004 MNK CHi Blast cycling except you invite RNGs in for Bounty Shot instead!

[Siatdiat]

Did they increase the droprate of base shoes again? PTd for 4 hours today in Attowa and got like 5 pairs of every possible drop.

We got 2 ridills after update, did they increase the drop rate?!

[NynJa]

Well Mr.Pro on the official forums says I need a bigger sample size

Get like 15 RNG to bounty shot ftw? It can be like 2004 MNK CHi Blast cycling except you invite RNGs in for Bounty Shot instead!

Wouldnt work, it seems Bounty Shot is equivalent to TH2.

[Esvedium]

Wouldnt work, it seems Bounty Shot is equivalent to TH2.

I thought they changed it with the last update so it can raise higher like thf th.

[NynJa]

I thought they changed it with the last update so it can raise higher like thf th.

I'll go test this now...presuming theres no limit on the same rng stacking it up and up and up.


no AF3+2
[21:59:00]Nynja uses Bounty Shot.
[21:59:00]Treasure Hunter effectiveness against the Goblin Smithy increases to 2.
[22:00:01]Nynja uses Bounty Shot.
[22:00:01]No effect on the Goblin Smithy.
[22:01:03]Nynja uses Bounty Shot.
[22:01:03]No effect on the Goblin Smithy.

with AF3+2
[22:06:51]Nynja uses Bounty Shot.
[22:06:51]Treasure Hunter effectiveness against the Goblin Pathfinder increases to 3.
[22:07:52]Nynja uses Bounty Shot.
[22:07:52]Treasure Hunter effectiveness against the Goblin Pathfinder increases to 4.
[22:08:54]Nynja uses Bounty Shot.
[22:08:54]No effect on the Goblin Pathfinder.
[22:09:55]Nynja uses Bounty Shot.
[22:09:55]No effect on the Goblin Pathfinder.


Whether multiple RNG's can push it further, idk.

[Ophannus]

I think Bounty Shot increases TH value by +1 regardless of the current value. So if a THF gets it to TH11, Bounty Shot will 100% get it to TH12 but then no further chance of increase. AF3+1 lets you increase it once more, and AF3+2 lets you increase it 2x more for a total of +3 to whatever the current TH value on the mob is perhaps? First Bounty Shot used starts it at TH2 instead of TH1, subsequent shots increase by +1.

[NynJa]

Then how come the pathfinder started at +3?


Regardless, I'll try something according to your beliefs of TH.

[23:41:57]Nynja's ranged attack hits the Midnight Wings for 141 points of damage.
(I equip all TH gear with ranged attacks, so TH6 here)
[23:42:27]Nynja's ranged attack scores a critical hit!
[23:42:29]Vermy starts casting Warp II on Nynja.
[23:42:38]Vermy starts casting Flash on the Midnight Wings.
[23:42:39]Vermy casts Warp II.
[23:42:39]Nynja vanishes.
[23:42:42]=== Area: Port Jeuno ===
[23:43:24]=== Area: Port Jeuno ===
[23:44:51]=== Area: Sauromugue Champaign ===
[23:45:17]Nynja uses Bounty Shot.
[23:45:17]No effect on the Midnight Wings.

[Apelila]

Was it the same pathfinder? Also, mog tablet bonuses are in play.

[NynJa]

The Goblin Smithy was 1 goblin Smithy, the Goblin Pathfinder was 1 Goblin Pathfinder, the Midnight Wings were 1 Midnight Wings.

[Vegetatheprince]

Bounty Shot has a chance to raise th with each shot. Initial value if no th on mob is 2 or 3 with gear. If the value is = or > the current th on the mob, the shot can miss but can also raise it 1 from its current level. So if you have a thf, always make sure they hit it before you do your first bounty shot.

[NynJa]

I'm pretty sure youre both wrong, because those are "no effect", not "fail" messages (granted there wasnt a fail message before, it was just no message.)

[Apelila]

I read goblin and stopped there, I'm tired. My bad.

Tablet bonus is still a factor for the base increase before any TH applied, it gives a base +1 if you have signet on. I thought bounty shot wasn't 100% either.

[Malacite]

I think Bounty Shot increases TH value by +1 regardless of the current value. So if a THF gets it to TH11, Bounty Shot will 100% get it to TH12 but then no further chance of increase. AF3+1 lets you increase it once more, and AF3+2 lets you increase it 2x more for a total of +3 to whatever the current TH value on the mob is perhaps? First Bounty Shot used starts it at TH2 instead of TH1, subsequent shots increase by +1.

Huh? So you can only effectively use it once per RNG per mob unless you have +1+2 AF3? Just wanna be sure I'm reading this right.

And why stop at 12? Is that the hard cap on TH?

[Atoreis]

And why stop at 12? Is that the hard cap on TH?

you cant even read ...

[Atoreis]

First time i got double post lag >.>

[Vegetatheprince]

I don't know why this is hard to understand. Took 30 min to fully test it on Sobeks.

With no TH: First shot is 100%. (I'm only 95% sure on this one because we usually had thf, but it seemed to proc every time the rng hit first thus wasting a bounty shot.) The base Value is 2 with no enhancement or 3 with gloves. Belt, signet, atma would each raise it one leading to a possible TH5 initial value.

With some TH already applied to mob: TH is not 100%. It's actually very inaccurate, with accuracy possibly decreasing based on how high current TH is. If landed, Bounty Shot will raise the TH value by one. I've seen it raise to 9 and 10.

[Byrthnoth]

No gloves = 2 base
+1 gloves = 3 base?
+2 gloves = 4 base?

Or is it just TH level 3 for the +2 gloves as well?

[NynJa]

Then how come when I pulled the Midnight Wings on my thief, held them on my whm while I changed to rng, my Bounty Shots had no effect? Unless theres a restriction about all the TH+ being done by 1 character...


I get you seem to get off thinking I'm some retard like Malacite...oh wait, my tests arent valid because I need a sample size of 999999