Voidwatch Discussion

[Flippant]

They killed the Provenance Watcher on JP Wiki apparently. Sanus Ensis and one body abjuration (likely all of them) as confirmed Glimmering Trove drops. Nothing from the Watcher itself, at least not in the one fight. Atmacite of Provenance confirmed from Watcher.

More information on the fetters: they come in eight colors, one for each element. Each of them has an aura (for example, the dark one has a doom aura). According to the JP Wiki, dark/fire/earth/water can be damaged by physical, wind/ice/thunder/light damaged by magical.

Watcher casts tier 3-5 single target nukes, tier 3-4 gas, Comet, Meteor, Holy, Holy II, and various AoE debuffs (Diaga III, Silencega, Blindga, AoE addle, AoE stun).

Just to add on to this, the damage cut is relative to the amount of fetters currently up: 1 fetter gives 50% DT, 2 fetters gives 80% DT, 3 fetters gives 99% DT.

Magic list changes based on HP:
White HP: Tier III
Yellow HP: Tier IV, Elemental -ga III, Holy, Comet,
Red HP: Tier V, Elemental -ga IV, Holy II, Meteor

[ronin sparthos]

Any idea of what the various TP moves do?

[Draylo]

Are drops still from personal loot chests?

[Slycer]

Are drops still from personal loot chests?

Most, although people have gotten some individual abjurations off of some of the caturae in the Radiance battles. It's a "Glimmering Trove" outside the battlefield in the main provenance area instead of a Riftworn Pyxis, but same idea (except cells/alignment don't do anything).

[Slycer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the KI does drop in a particular fight randomly, everyone who needs it gets it right? I got 2 of them while going through clears, and it seemed like when my mule got one so did the rest of the alliance.

Mule has maddening(Zhayolm) and Beguiling(Qilin)

Everyone gets it, yeah. The first Tavnazia fight we did we randomly got the seductive petrifact and it went to the whole alliance (this was right after the update). If the path-specific thing is true for petrifacts, which it seems like it is, it'll help to focus your random battle efforts if you're trying to build Provenance Watcher pop sets through random battles.

[Flippant]

Not all as it has a lot of moves, but I can get the ball rolling.


Prismatic Breath - Conal AoE damage + "Inhibit TP"
Acicular Brand - No info
Orogenisis - AoE damage + Heavy + Choke + Evasion down
Phason Beam - AoE damage + Magic defense down
Diffractive Break - No info
Euhedral Swat: Spike flail move
Crystallite Shower: AoE damage
Graviton Crux: Frontal AoE HP Drain + Knockback
Crystal Bolide: No info
Fragor Maximus: No info

[Churchill]

Yeah, seems like you could go do some Ig/Qilin and farm some sets+petrifacts, then go do whatever you need for a full pop.

[Slycer]

Not all as it has a lot of moves, but I can get the ball rolling.


Prismatic Breath - Conal AoE damage + "Inhibit TP"
Acicular Brand - No info
Orogenisis - AoE damage + Heavy + Choke + Evasion down
Phason Beam - AoE damage + Magic defense down
Diffractive Break - No info
Euhedral Swat: Spike flail move
Crystallite Shower: AoE damage
Graviton Crux: Frontal AoE HP Drain + Knockback
Crystal Bolide: No info
Fragor Maximus: No info

Did you notice a change in behavior based on wing stance? Do they just open as HP drops, or does it change randomly? Also, what HP levels did you mean when you said yellow/red HP changes the spell lists?

[Seph]

Yeah, seems like you could go do some Ig/Qilin and farm some sets+petrifacts, then go do whatever you need for a full pop.

I prefer doing the 3BCs (100% KI drop rate) then the crystal dragon fight and repeat this pattern, will get me those new drops too from the 3bcs while doing so.
I'm just wondering if you keep getting Kupofried's corundum stock if you don't play the game for a while, (Heard you can only get up to 3 in stock max ;/)

[Generic]

Did you notice a change in behavior based on wing stance? Do they just open as HP drops, or does it change randomly? Also, what HP levels did you mean when you said yellow/red HP changes the spell lists?

The 2 times we fought it it seemed the wings went up @50%

[Generic]

I prefer doing the 3BCs (100% KI drop rate) then the crystal dragon fight and repeat this pattern, will get me those new drops too from the 3bcs while doing so.
I'm just wondering if you keep getting Kupofried's corundum stock if you don't play the game for a while, (Heard you can only get up to 3 in stock max ;/)

I have 6 in stock right now. Traded 2 stacks of Petrifacts and grabbed some Corundum's off him. He stored the rest

[ronin sparthos]

I prefer doing the 3BCs (100% KI drop rate) then the crystal dragon fight and repeat this pattern, will get me those new drops too from the 3bcs while doing so.
I'm just wondering if you keep getting Kupofried's corundum stock if you don't play the game for a while, (Heard you can only get up to 3 in stock max ;/)

If it does cap out then you're better off hoarding petrifacts to use whenever you please on the new BCNMs.

[Generic]

Not all as it has a lot of moves, but I can get the ball rolling.


Prismatic Breath - Conal AoE damage + "Inhibit TP"
Acicular Brand - No info
Orogenisis - AoE damage + Heavy + Choke + Evasion down
Phason Beam - AoE damage + Magic defense down
Diffractive Break - No info
Euhedral Swat: Spike flail move
Crystallite Shower: AoE damage
Graviton Crux: Frontal AoE HP Drain + Knockback
Crystal Bolide: No info
Fragor Maximus: No info

Did you guys notice the Fetters not giving any status effects ? Ppl in our group said that some of the fetters were just sitting there doing nothing and when they ran over to test them they weren't getting any type of status effect on them. Our BRD said she casted dia on one that had a white aura and the aura around the fetter got darker and gave her a status effect. Don't know if anyone noticed this or if this was just a coincidence x.x

[Rehn]

Can I assume people can still enter to help on the side BCs + watcher BC without a corundum/petrifacts, but won't receive any atmacite/loot from trove?

[Flippant]

Sorry, to clarify I meant its spell list will change as its HP lowers, at the corresponding levels 75% HP 25% HP, etc.

[Fwahm]

Can I assume people can still enter to help on the side BCs + watcher BC without a corundum/petrifacts, but won't receive any atmacite/loot from trove?

You assume wrong.

[Rehn]

Lame... need to make sure my set has enough crystal petrifacts to do those side BCs then.

[Slycer]

I believe this is the full drop list (excluding abjurations) from Provenance Watcher (from JP Wiki). I think they were all pretty obvious except maybe the Saio. Note the three armor drops conveniently cover each job once (and only once).

Drachenhorn
Hyaline Hat
Tessera Saio
Sanus Ensis
Plenitas Virga
Adamas

[fattrav]

Crystal Bolide: Giant crystals come out of the sky, seems AoE

[Kaisha]

Seems completely incongruent with the game's folklore. There are giant crystals in Prov, and there's a giant crystal in the stories of origin. The devs just seemed to have mashed the two together by virtue of that.

If anything, it makes one question the celestial hierarchy. The area/story wouldn't seem as disjointed if for whatever reason Altana is a lower being than the Prov Watcher, but Altana being a lesser being than anything doesn't sit well in any other way.

Well....

Spoiler: show

The state of Provenance that we're able to visit could just be yet another alternate reality that doesn't match up with how our timeline's Provenance went. It's not like the Vana'diel WE know is the 'real' Vana'diel anyways as far as WoTG is concerned anyways.