Voidwatch Discussion

[NynJa]

its an AHable version incase some scrub doesnt have abyssea and/or doesnt know how to proc blue on Shinryu.

[Spira]

o by the way did anyone notice this?



im posting here because I assumed it drop in Voidwatch, but thanks for the correction.

First time they've ever done this yes?

edit: They know we dat mine rite?

[NynJa]

Confirmed arch-DL drop.

and not really the first time, since they did put out the relic weapon animation video.

[ronin sparthos]

Looks like the weapon procs often enough.

[Mahoro]

Do people have any experience on how to control the rapid-fire switch of procs? Did this last night with the LS and it seemed that the better method would be to have only 1 tank, 1 melee discerner, and 1 magic discerner on the mob. Announce what procs and have people standing by to jump in. Or is it just pretty much mob can change at will and it's all luck whether you proc?

[mackerel]

Do people have any experience on how to control the rapid-fire switch of procs? Did this last night with the LS and it seemed that the better method would be to have only 1 tank, 1 melee discerner, and 1 magic discerner on the mob. Announce what procs and have people standing by to jump in. Or is it just pretty much mob can change at will and it's all luck whether you proc?

I'm not convinced the procs change randomly. Last night we fought 6, and each time the normal vulnerability report would shift, but the high vulnerability would not change until we triggered it. The normal vulnerability cycled between exactly three elements, one of which would change as we staggered the target. I suspect the vulnerability is not actually changing, there are several simultaneous vulnerabilities and the messages merely report one at a time. If I'm right, the weaknesses may be chosen at the start of the fight (for instance Fire III, Seedspray, Diaga, *Drain II) and you'd see what appears to be a cycle of fire, earth, and light vulnerability with a static high vulnerability to darkness magic. I don't know that this theory can be proven, as randomly changing weaknesses would mean spamming anything could work.

[Arthars]

just a heads up......when u see HIGHLY VULNERABLE and you proced it, it will be gone. HOWEVER if you manage to get the same HIGHLY VULNERABLE message again for the same element/ws/ability, that means there is another weakness thats under the same category.

Eg. We have Highly vulnerable club ws message and we proced with judgement, it appear again so we did club again and it proced with seraph strike(25% white x2). Also had a case we proced with raiton: ichi, message popped up again after proc and we ran out of highly vulnerable message so we spam thunder again and thundaga II proced.

We didnt know this until today as we wonder why some NMs only have 2-3 highly vulnerable weakness after spamming shits for 15 mins and its actually 4-5 weakness of the 2-3 element/ws -_-;

Also there are times we have vulnerable to dark magic, and highly vulnerable to dark message on same NM. This further back up my findings with multiple weakness on same element/ws

there is usually 5-6 highly vulnerable and 5-6 vulnerable weakness per NM which is why it is so random to get all 10-12 weakness out. I do not believe weakness change in the course of the fight.

[ronin sparthos]

Caribineer's Dagger off the Pixie in Jugner, didn't see that on Spira's chart of drops.

[Motarrisu]

me and another person just got Roller's Rings off of Cottus in East Ronfaure S, don't know what triggers the latent yet

[Obsidian]

me and another person just got Roller's Rings off of Cottus in East Ronfaure S, don't know what triggers the latent yet

Active roll of XI.

[geno3302]

So.. Rancor Collar what does it do?

[Spira]

Kholomodumo >

Genesis Locket Rare Ex
[Neck] All Races
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+5 Increases magic critical hit damage
LV 88 All Jobs

Genesis Shield Rare Ex
[Sub] All Races
DEF:21 [thunder]+30 "Triple Attack"+1% Physical damage taken: "Curse" effect on opponent
LV 88 WAR WHM RDM THF PLD BST SAM

[Byrthnoth]

So how many more drops are we expecting from Voidwatch? We think we have a Tier 3 with 3 drops (Kholo) and a Tier 2 with 2 drops (Lorb)

If we assume:
Tier 1 - 1 drop
Tier 2 - 2 drops
Tier 3 - 3 drops (or 2 for non-synth mobs)
Tier 4 - 4 drops

then we're looking at 8 missing drops.

This post implies that we're missing 6 drops from Dynamis.

This page implies that we're missing 4 drops from brown caskets.

Now carved up for your viewing pleasure!

4 drops from Voidwatch (Belphoebe/Melancholic Moira/Lord Asag/Akupara).
Scuta Cape - Unknown, probably from Akupara
Tefnut Wand - Could be Brown casket like Metasorma Katars (87, many jobs)
Tonatiuh Axe - Same as above
Anger Bomblet - Could be anywhere

Brown Casket:
Bond Cape - Toraimarai Brown Casket
Field Torque - Brown Casket
Cocoon Band - CN Brown Casket (FFFFF I've spent like 5 days there)?
Chocobo Rope - Definitely brown casket, which means at least one of the above four isn't.

Dynamis-Beauc?:
Khthonios Helm - Confirmed Dynamis - Beaucidine
Khthonios Mask - See above
Khthonios Gloves - See above
Chtonic Staff - Possibly boss
Avesta Bangles - Probably Dynamis-Beauc SuperBoss - Linkerlinker

Level 90, R/Ex:
Langeleik - I'd bet the Harpy Voidwatch NM... maybe
Tier 4 +2 WAR/etc Armor - Probably Voidwrought, and the Tier 4 +2 armor assigned to him probably come from the Harpy

Confirmed Voidwatch:
Mantodea Harpe - Ogbunabali
Ganesha's Mala - I'd put money on Hahava

Overall, I'd say SE did a pretty good job of hiding drops from us this update! It has been well over a week and we still don't even have Brown Caskets figured out. Now we're potentially missing one, 17/19 unfound drops.

Mislabeled before:
Menhit Slacks - Allegedly from a KCNM.
Amanita Hairpin - KC30 at Horlais Peak, My bad!

As a result of this sorting, now BG wiki's KCNM pages have the drops, I think.

[catfat]

Amanita Hairpin is from KC30 at Holaris Peak

[Spira]

nice post Byrthnoth..
given the data u've shown..

I think the trend is like this..

for voidwatch at least,

tier 1 has 1 unique drop.
tier 2, 2
tier 3, 3 for [s] version (1 craft item), 2 so far for the present ones
tier 4, 4 unique items, including craft drop.

If i had to fill drops in from the current list of unknown drops.. my predictions:
i'd say t2s are 1 weapon 1 item each.
Mantodea Harpe probably drops from Antlion (Mantodea means mantis, they're both insects)
t3s are 1 main/sub/ranged weapon + eq i think.. other than the craft drops..
scuta or cocoon band might drop from Akupara and the rest is anyones guess.
t4 seems to be 2 drops of related mythology, HQ2 body and a craft drop.
i think Voidwrought pool might be complete. Ganesha's probably from Hahava and something relating to the Phoenixians/Greek for Celaeno, but if u've noticed all the other drops are RA/EX lv90, so i'd agree with you on Langeleik, which is the only thing in that list that fits

[Khiinroye]

Has anyone gotten the harpy or pixie's atmacite and tested if the sphere effects stack when coming from multiple people?

I wouldn't be surprised if Ganesha's mala were the other drop from hahava, and Langeleik were the final drop from Celaeno; I think all the other lv 90 ra/ex drops have been found.

[Byrthnoth]

Okay, I updated it. Those are my guesses at the moment.

[akdrak]

Sorry, new here. Just wanted to report the Percept Bow drops from Krabimanjaro along with those cuffs.

[Rocl]

Okay, I updated it. Those are my guesses at the moment.

How many casket drops are missing? Urat hasn't updated that OP in 3 days or so, and some of it I know has been found (Rangeoument, Eldieme, etc) and some have not been found (Toraimarai, Crawler's Nest).

[Byrthnoth]

Four are missing, I have been keeping this updated as people report in:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Grounds_o...easure_Caskets

SE has done a remarkable job of making drops unpredictable this time around. There are a few that make sense, but many are just meaningless. Why would a crab drop a bow, for instance?

Guesses anyway:
Toraimarai Canal - Tefnut Wand or Tonatiuh Axe - Strong ties to egyptians, lots of undead in the canal
Gusgen Mines - " " mines
Ordelle's Caves - Damned if I know, maybe Chocobo Rope?
Crawler's Nest - Cocoon Band