Voidwatch Discussion

[Slycer]

It's just random, bell curve like you'd expect, at least that's what it seems like. Couple people get nothing, couple people get a lot of stuff, most people get somewhere in the middle. Even if it doesn't help the drop rate of rare items to trade cobalt cells, I can't imagine that it would actually HURT the drop rate.

[Arthars]

It's probably breaking green and yellow cause no one ever trades those cells. Maybe the hard cap for all is 500, then the 25% for the abbysite.

Like if you don't trade any blue or red cells, the the will let them go over 350 maybe? But always cap at 500.

Hows the trade only ruby theory coming along? I've gotten 4 impatiens now, and a jingang gsword to add to my list from before, always tradeing blue and red. Gotta be hidden luck stat!

it must be that some IP addresses gets better loot

i swear its always the same person getting the loots on certain mobs man

my ID have not get ANY loot from voidwrougth(lol i wanted even the ring...) on both my ID, while someone and their WHM mule have gotten 2 body and 1 mantle 2 rings

someone also always get ring in every box she opens but never mantle hahahaha

NEED TO FIND THE HIDDEN STAT!!!

[Taint]

Bounty shot procing? Could be an effective way for the TH bonus.

[Churchill]

Limited data but I proc'd 4/6 on Cottus with Bounty shot and iirc we had 6% blitz at the end

[Arthars]

best i done was TH6 with bounty shot only, spamming it every min, since thf is still a waste of space in alliance

[Alistrianna]

Probably not the thread to be asking this question but it's relevant to attacks made by VWNM's anyways. How does Shell, MDT and PDT gear interact with attacks reduced by the Scherzo/Earthen Armor combo?

[Churchill]

PDT etc are applied before Scherzo.

Example: -30% PDT (Arhat's +9/+6/darkringx2+10/Torque+5=30%) + Scherzo
Homing Missile (Critical HP move) - amount of damage avoided will be 30%, not 30+23% and not 23%

[Alistrianna]

ah, so if PDT/MDT would push the attack dmg into a range below 75% of your max HP it will not trigger scherzo?

[Churchill]

Correct. I don't know if it applies to Shell though, I have limited experience with it for non-physical moves. I only had the urge to test it when farming some Rani pops.

[Kaisha]

They had to have fucked with the drops.

3 VW - 3rd one dropped 7 rings, 1 mantle. (first two only gave junk)

2 Hahava -
1st one dropped 3 mask, 1 body,
2nd dropped 2 body. 1 neck

There's no way we're just fucking lucky for this single run. Worth noting we had TH8 on it incase SE did decide to have that play into the drop results on the chest also.

Blitz is awesome, is giving us a free 50% or so over the course of the fight, only one VW we didn't full cap on, and just lacked 75%'ish on blue.


Doing another Hahava, will post results in a bit.
[EDIT] Junk drops on 3rd Hahava. Should note we only could get 348% blue (w/ cells & 25% from periapt), only one we didn't max out all lights on aside from the 2nd Voidwrought.

[Arthars]

you are just lucky nothing more

we had TH 13 on the night SE made thf useful + ranger bountry shots and we still got shits

mask and rings are lolz easy drops....

so it comes down to 1 mantle, 3 bodies in 6 NMs. That is luck as we have seen 3 bodies in 1 NM before (2 went to person who got it already yay) with %s capping every single run, pre-patch.

you can get 1 lucky run like this and say "VW ROCKSSSSS" and then stop posting anything for the next 10 runs cos u got nothing

thats VW. Its like saying "ridill drop rates are awesome after <insert date patch>!!! Anyone else noticed this?"

Higher %s on red(or blue) means higher chance of reality loots(body mantle neck etc). The base % of body is about 1% and yea... you can calculate from there.....

Current tally from my spreadsheet (pre-patch):
16 times we do this NM x 15 person(average) x 3 rounds per run voidwrought: 7 bodies(2 went to same person), 8 mantles(4 went to same person), millions of rings(but yet not everyone got it lol, always repeated on same person)
18 times we do this NM x 15 person(average) x 3 rounds hahava: 1 body(me yay), 2 neck, countless masks
1 run x 18 person x 3 tonberry: 1 GS, 3 necks

We have always cap red on all the NMs, may miss some blues cap as abilities are fucking random...but we take into consideration red % means real loot as only 1 real loot can appear in a box. Those 2 people that got repeated bodies DID NOT use cells aka 350% red and still got it. Note that not always people uses cells on certain NMs, but i cant possibly record who uses and who doesnt... i know my group fancy void more than hahava....no one thinks the body from hahava is awesome and mask is a joke....most of them wants voidwrought rings at least.

we rarely do calaenos and 1/2 of the people dont use cells/stone on her so didnt count those.

overall i just wanna say....if your lucky like macross, then your lucky like macross....im sure some people in macross group are also sick of his luck wahahahahha

FFXI is luck when it comes to drops. Nothing is fair

[macross]

Yeah they are, especially when I get 2 flowers in the same day. Good thing they are rare, I have to hand mine off before I can lot another.
Yet, there are still mobs I've never gotten anything from, like hahava. Can't let me finish the 3 body trifecta I guess. I doubt I'd even wear it, just like the mage body. I supposed mage body is good for an AFK sum using shiva aura to buff the blms in the group, or a bard in a blm group to use as well.
At least voidwrought body is pretty awesome for fudo, and I like it on war paired with the helm. Kinda beats using zelus and af3 body.
I don't think they fucked with drop rates, but maybe they increased them 1-5% lol who knows. Stuff is still pretty rare. I don't really like getting AF seals in the pool now though;;

[Arthars]

yea man -_- void body is the best....GS TP body and fudo body piece >_<

gimmeeee

seals and scrolls just made getting trash alot more "exciting".... more shits that cant stack zzz

[macross]

Yeah, but I've already finished almost all the AF+1 lol. I guess it's nice if you don't farm, but at this stage of the game you should have already gotten all the +1 you care about.

Totally wish strendu was tradable hehe. Tried to HQ 2 more fazhuelo hat but NQ them both again sigh, so I'm still stuck with 24% haste on war lol. Least doing some more behemoth tomorrow so maybe more hides will be gotten. We've only gotten 4 bodies total, at least you've gotten 7 hehe.

Adding some pup attachments would be good! Wouldn't have to spend 3k zeni to farm OBs then.

[Kaisha]

you can get 1 lucky run like this and say "VW ROCKSSSSS" and then stop posting anything for the next 10 runs cos u got nothing

Well I hope the last run is enough of a 'false' impression to keep interest levels up for a week. Attendance been shit the past month because 'no drops lol'. Will keep recording info, as well as posting procs in the other thread.

They're a joke with a full ally, hoping to eventually get to killing all 3 T4s 3x a run. Blitz making it easier to cap lights and get NM near death prior to the 15min warning.

[Slycer]

Someone from LS just got Strendu Ring and Voidwrought Plate in the same crate. SS to follow, just throwing that out there. I know people were under the impression that only one mob-unique item could load per crate. They also added VNM items to crates -- I got a muculent ingot earlier, and someone else just got a pelt of Dawon.

[Arthars]

Plate is not an equipment. Wat we actually meant is Multiple equips

[Zzsark]

But really you wont know that for certain until you see something to the contrary

[Arthars]

tbh i am hoping multiple equip drops, so that means Blue % is actually as important as red

[Atoreis]

Yeah, but I've already finished almost all the AF+1 lol. I guess it's nice if you don't farm, but at this stage of the game you should have already gotten all the +1 you care about.

Totally wish strendu was tradable hehe. Tried to HQ 2 more fazhuelo hat but NQ them both again sigh, so I'm still stuck with 24% haste on war lol. Least doing some more behemoth tomorrow so maybe more hides will be gotten. We've only gotten 4 bodies total, at least you've gotten 7 hehe.

Adding some pup attachments would be good! Wouldn't have to spend 3k zeni to farm OBs then.

So how exactly you cover the loss of sTP on af3/hauberk bodys to use Fazheluo?