Voidwatch Discussion

[Toth]

Can 2 PLD tanks duo Havana? We have failed on two attempts because some of his attacks are doing almost 1400 or he uses a nasty TP move right after a ga spell that k/os a tank. Perhaps we need to rethink support options?

[Zzsark]

Can kill Hahava with one PLD tank. If he's hitting your tanks for that much are you using earthen armor/scherzo combo? It can help quite a bit esp if he gets one of them weakened.

[Toth]

We did not have earthen armor on them but did have Scherzo. Looks like a change of strategy is in order.

Do most people just use ranged attack damage on them? He and Lord Agog have proven very hard to kill with sams and mnks as primary DD.

[Taint]

We did not have earthen armor on them but did have Scherzo. Looks like a change of strategy is in order.

Do most people just use ranged attack damage on them? He and Lord Agog have proven very hard to kill with sams and mnks as primary DD.

Hahava isn't that bad but yeah earthen armor and scherzo are very nice to have. We use a full tank pty PLDx2,BRD,RDM,SMN,WHM then 1-2 SAM, BLM, WHM for the damage pty. We don't have a ton of procs because how small our shell is but we kill with little trouble.

[Radec]

Ranged damage is a very safe and reliable way to kill anything, plus can cover a lot more procs than melee-dps-tanks, since subjob can be flexible. RNG/COR, BLM/(MNK, DRK, Anything that doesn't need melee accuracy for a JA proc), SCH/Anything. COR(Again, /<something to proc>) main to feed TP to melee outside of AoE range. Far as real "melee" go, we rarely bring more than 1x each pld(Occasionally 2x pld) war nin drg pup. This covers most of the blue% !!, especially using alternative SJ's on others.

[Mahoro]

Ranged damage is a very safe and reliable way to kill anything, plus can cover a lot more procs than melee-dps-tanks, since subjob can be flexible. RNG/COR, BLM/(MNK, DRK, Anything that doesn't need melee accuracy for a JA proc), SCH/Anything. COR(Again, /<something to proc>) main to feed TP to melee outside of AoE range. Far as real "melee" go, we rarely bring more than 1x each pld(Occasionally 2x pld) war nin drg pup. This covers most of the blue% !!, especially using alternative SJ's on others.

Yeah, mixing-and-matching subjobs is good. We even have a MNK that comes /DRG sometimes lol.

[Worlace]

Can 2 PLD tanks duo Havana? We have failed on two attempts because some of his attacks are doing almost 1400 or he uses a nasty TP move right after a ga spell that k/os a tank. Perhaps we need to rethink support options?

Idk how this is possible, I solo tank on PLD with only a RDM and occasional WHM cure for support (if the weakness TP move gets past a stun).

[Churchill]

I'm looking at your sig and that may have something to do with it.

Of course if his LS's PLD's have the same gear, then back to your response

[Kaisha]

4 Voidwrought kills, 3 bodies, lots of rings, capped red on all, mixed amount of blue, TH on all.

Two runs in a row now with decent loot.


Thread is a bit large so I can't check if it's been said, but stagger time during HV proc stacks with any existing stagger time. We had the idiot sit there for a minute doing nothing, got 52% bonus from blitz.

[macross]

We did 3 voids today, 0 bodies few rings, all 3 capped red blue, with bounty shot th to 5 or 6. Still no new bodies for us since patch.
least I got impatiens #5 today from fancimandi

[Mahoro]

We did 3 Hahava since the patch with pretty much capped Red and Blue in varying amounts near enough to cap. No bodies ><

[Arthars]

brought my 3rd mule to first ever 3x voidwrought to leech some loots

3/3 strendu ring while my main is still lacking ring

woooooo hooooooo someone tell me this is random already

[macross]

Well, at least that shows the lucky bonus isn't based on your IP ahaha.

[Diomer]

brought my 3rd mule to first ever 3x voidwrought to leech some loots

3/3 strendu ring while my main is still lacking ring

woooooo hooooooo someone tell me this is random already

I feel for you; my mule has gotten both Strendu Ring and Mantle and I haven't got either ;;

[Arthars]

Well, at least that shows the lucky bonus isn't based on your IP ahaha.

Haha yea at least theres a start to luck investigation!!

[Kaisha]

Today's run results, third in a row with bodies.

Spoiler: show

Capped lights, full ally, no THF.

Hahava x6
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Body x3 (One wasted)
Lots of masks
Neck x1

Voidwrought x3
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Body x1
Wasted Rings everywhere
Mantle x1

Some of those drops seem just as bloody rare as the body armor. My DRG could use ganesha mala.

Do you guys find BRD&SMN combo helps that much for -DT? It seems the only time our tank dies is when someone fails to stun a weakness-inflicting attack and the pld is a sitting duck for 1min hoping the blms can stun everything lethal to that state. Granted we always have a backup pld, but sometimes you just get unlucky with what it uses and what we're able to stop. Main thing we keep a brd around for is procs, and ours is doing a pretty good job at landing them lately.

Regardless, my LS getting faster. Half our kills this last run were fully proc'd and dead before the 15min warning.

[Arthars]

1. sentinel and titan armor has already been mentioned million times that it helps alot for VW.
2. yes neck/mantle is almost equivalent to a body armor drop rate
3. weakness move doesnt kill people, a good PLD can tank even when weakened. it is almost the same as unerased arm cannon.
4. Threnody are easy to land. However you may find it wierd how light threnody, for example, will always land on hahava but blind 1 and 2 would almost never
5. just stun ballista kick, thats the only move that can kill alliance due to hate reset, and then if used again, may kill everyone because its conal
6. even if anyone in the world wipe to any NM, its fine as long its a mule that popped the nm because only popper lose stone if you wipe hahaha. VW is friendly

[Alkimi]

We don't generally use EA/Scherzo any more. We did at one point but with an Aegis PLD (if you have one) there's nothing that does enough damage to justify it and you're never really in much danger even when weakened.

Would definitely use it for the Behemoth mob though.

[Zzsark]

I like to use it on the Tonberry as well. It's one of the few that I'd say it's 'needed' for.

[macross]

Hrm, got Anhur robe #2 today, a hide, a gun, and celandro skin. Mule got 2 guns and a skin. Maybe IP theory has some merit after all.

Still no animator for my pup, though we got a few. Always to non leveled pups of course!