Voidwatch Discussion

[vagus]

Thanks for all the information Khiinroye. What jobs did you use to hold the adds? To anyone that still doubts you can't get loot for now having white stratum, a member got all 3 rare drops from the NM's we did. He has 2 out of 3 VW1 complete. Made close to 10M yesterday by trading 2 cells to each NM. Q.Q

Here is some information for T2 Jeuno:

Gasha, the Skele that has 3 forms. First form is Silence and we just spammed Silena on the tank. Second form has Amnesia which can cause problems. We had our DD's run in and out to WS. Third form is paralyze and isn't an issue.

Mellonia's aura seems to be random and can be amnesia, Silence, and Bio. Bio can be a big problem as it's a strong aura and it seems to last longer then silence and bio. Our first attempt at 10% it went crazy and we ended up wiping. 2nd try we just stun locked with a blm and drk and finished it off last 15%.

Roly-Poly is bonus against physical damage so we brought an extra blm to help with the damage. Has strong regen but not too difficult if you smn and blm/sch doing constant damage.

[Slycer]

Gasha has kind of low HP since he has three forms, so if you have a couple BLMs and maybe a RNG or COR with Wildfire, the 2nd form is easy as well (the aura is just 10').

[Slycer]

VW has been nice this far looking at the pattern im sure CoP and ToAU area will open up soon +_+

CoP Voidwatch is gonna be fun, I miss those areas. CoP zones are really cool and there are tons of them. I have a feeling the next update is going to be Icelands VW capping off the nations/Jeuno "storyline" and CoP VW as a side set like Zilart.

[Kaisha]

anyone else having this glitch where their Atmacite of Promises (from Qilin) is wrongly named Exhortation?

I recall on the test server that for some reason I had two Exhortation entries in the key item list, the second one being at the very bottom.

Funny that never got fixed since 50 some users pointed it out on the test server forums.

[Arthars]

btw all the lower tier pets are a joke....

is there a culture shock when i move up to final tier pets?

[Radec]

Thanks for all the information Khiinroye. What jobs did you use to hold the adds?

Start with PLD(ochain) NIN on adds, nin kills to see if they respawn, if they return the pld picks up the repopped one as well. With phalanx, most adds from T1/T2 hit for 0.

Re: Modron, we fought it in not a huge room, so couldn't spread out enough to confirm but it seemed like it always casts on the 2nd person on the hate list. With just pld on it, nukes always hit me on blm, once I died the rng started getting hit - but they're often aga's, so can't be certain it was specifically targeted or just random. Once additional melee were in, mages rarely got hit by aga. As such I'd suggest 2 tanks|melee on the main with mdt sets available.

[Septimus]

OK, so here is my question. What are the realistic chances of a LS with 6~8 people (with 5~6 having two-boxes) being able to move up along the first and maybe second chapters of Voidwatch? Are there any good strategies that a small, but decently well-geared LS can apply to be able to progress?

[Colenzo]

i thought you werent doing voidwatch anymore lol

can probably do the core VW stuff without too much trouble but make sure you have all your triggers for magic covered or you might have a hard time

[Byrthnoth]

6~8 people, 5~6 of whom have two characters? You could do a lot of Voidwatch that way, though some of the fights might be hard. Beating the NMs is less hard than proccing them up for Periapts/drops.

[Septimus]

i thought you werent doing voidwatch anymore lol

can probably do the core VW stuff without too much trouble but make sure you have all your triggers for magic covered or you might have a hard time

Well, sometimes in MMOs we are forced to do shitty content that we really don't want to do for the sake of others.

I know, what a silly concept, thinking about how other people feel and taking action based off of that.

[Churchill]

A real WHM is a must, so relying on the bot army isn't advised (though it works in most of the fights)

Have someone competent and not the tank in charge of leading the fight (eg, making sure lights get capped and people focus on the correct staggers, handing out stagger orders to people, etc.) I feel a BLM works best for this

Your stunners shouldn't be 2boxing anything important

Unless the 6 real players are Ryko then you're going to run into some problems if your mules aren't equally as pimped. For example, if you've got 6 real players there on Brochain or Brogis, WHM, SMN, BRD, BLM COR then a lot of fights you're going to have trouble doing everything you need to keep tanks alive + proc + win. Not unwinnable, not unprocable, but problems can arise.

12 people is definitely a good number and a lot of procs can be covered, so it really depends on what jobs everyone has available and how pimp the mules really are.

[Radec]

Your stunners shouldn't be 2boxing anything important

I've had great success being both stunners, since you always know who is next and can swap around order at will.

I'd recommend against blm calling orders, since they have a lot to be casting/watching stun, and suggest blu, since they have 1min free time relatively often - obviously depends on your LS.

[Colenzo]

Well, sometimes in MMOs we are forced to do shitty content that we really don't want to do for the sake of others.

I know, what a silly concept, thinking about how other people feel and taking action based off of that.

oh you

[Lildrama]

So.. anyone know if Relic/Empy WS can stagger in VW? I have yet to see it but ppl assure me it can happen lol...

[Colenzo]

no

[6souls]

Well, sometimes in MMOs we are forced to do shitty content that we really don't want to do for the sake of others.

I know, what a silly concept, thinking about how other people feel and taking action based off of that.

Zerg. The ls I'm in is in the same situation & we're low-man "zerging" through the first chapter. So far we've only had to CS+Stun & Alex Krabimanjaro, Lord Asag, and Voidwrought. Also, CS+Stun can get you lucky. Triggered a 100% white on Voidwrought yesterday using it.

[Flight_93]

the 'bro'fix needs to die already.

[Manf]

OK, so here is my question. What are the realistic chances of a LS with 6~8 people (with 5~6 having two-boxes) being able to move up along the first and maybe second chapters of Voidwatch? Are there any good strategies that a small, but decently well-geared LS can apply to be able to progress?

I can tell you that a group of 6~9 (4 actual people) has no trouble clearing any of the first tier, as my friends and I have been doing it with ease. We've been using only one tank, who has an ochain (except the Lorbulcrud fight seemed to necessitate an off-tank because of dissolve), 2 stunners, and various ranged damage (usually cor/blm/rng). We've been fairly lucky when it comes to getting atmacite and various KI, but that is where the luck stops. We are simply missing too many procs to get any items with any frequency. I think our best drop has been an apathy gorget. Haven't had a chance to try the second tier, but it sounds daunting. Although the first tier sounded daunting at first too, but it is ridiculously easy if you don't suck, so we will see.

[damet]

U wont be able to do lord asag with only 4 actual players...i can tell u that right now

[Colenzo]

Alright, its Aello story time so gather around.

First off the 3 babies need to be super tanked at all time if you hope to kill it on time. As soon as the babies die it automatically resummons them with Shrieking Gale(AoE full dispell) which is also a hate reset for the babies. So having a PLD standing just out of range trying to get hate after this TP move helps a lot. The babies use Lethe Arrows(amnesia and bind) and cast Silencega. You want to pull the babies off by themselves so they cant silence everybody.(Aegis tank and a WHM babysitting with Silena highly suggested.) Unlike Celaeno who uses Typhoean Rage @ <50% this guy will start using it @ <75%. Also this guy will start using a new ability called Kaleidoscope Fury @ <50%. This TP move is highly damaging, all stats down -50 or more and includes a very potent Dia that is like 50-80/tick with a huge defense down. So you will want to stun this also. You also HAVE TO HAVE a dedicated stunner for this fight and have everyone else on their toes watching for shit also. He needs to be /rdm preferably and he needs to be babysat 24/7 making sure that hes hasted and that hes getting erased if hes getting hit with slowga.

We managed to make things a bit more managable for the guy stalling the faries by killing 1 of the fairies so all he had to do was tank the two, which also let melees build up TP a bit. Aegis really helps a fuckload for this fight with all the dispels going off on the main tank. You absolutely need a co-tank for this as well. She loses probably about 25% of her defense when all the babies are dead but she resummons instantly with that TP move I mentioned earlier. So wasting time killing babies is really just not a good idea.