Voidwatch Discussion

[Raffi_XI]

All the NPCable junk adds up over time! Not to mention can get more chances at heavy metal. Using a mule has its advantages. Also its the age of easy leveling. Getting a rare item on a mule really isnt that bad when you can level up the job for it in a few days and cap skills in a few more.

[Alkimi]

I've seen strats for Kaggen, but anybody have a specific setup they like to use? Mostly ranged dmg/BLM/melee proccers/tank/WHM?

We did it last night with a pretty melee-heavy setup and it was rather messy. We won with a few minutes to spare but going from what people said afterwards Wildfire CORs/RNGs do decent damage as do BLMs. DD can tank it fine (sorry to be racist but wouldn't recommend using a taru), I'd say Ukon WAR works well. He has a shit ton of HP so timing out is always a danger. Make sure you stun Death Prophet as deaths make it messy.

[IronPandemonium]

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ok

I'd say Ukon WAR works well.

war/sam

[Alkimi]

Ildebrann is a zerg fight, trying to kill it in the air and you'll just do half damage and time out.

try to kill it on the ground and he'll just hate reset the tank, and tebbed wing you till you die.

He is stunnable, so CS stun works. also, we found that Perfect Defense blocked his aoe terror, so double dip on both chainspell stun , alex, and all DD's for a 30sec fight. real squishy, avg WS 3k+

From a while back this but PD DOES NOT block his terror move. Tried to zerg it last night (failed since one of our members needs to go back to Wyrm school and learn about attacking it from behind) and everyone was terrored most of the time. Luckily all our melees had Embrava (which is ridiculously good for zergs btw) and the regen kept everyone's HP topped up.

[Deader2818]

ok



war/sam

OK, so in your guys opinion, the only way to be able to do VW is to either make a LS with 18 people or low man it all and bring mules to fill out to 18?

[IronPandemonium]

you're overthinking it

[IronPandemonium]

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[Raffi_XI]

The more the merrier. More people = more chances at plates = more in circulation = faster 95 emps = faster sad faces.

[Zirael]

Maybe someone asked this before.. But in the Jeuno areas.. Do you always have at least once each battle xbox users freeze ?
I've seen this a lot ... every time at least 3 or 4 ppl with xbox frozen.

SE never bothered translating it into EN, but it is a known issue on JP forums. They're investigating, or something.
Google translate your best friend.

[Slycer]

Some people in my linkshell who play on Xbox have been relogging after each battle and they say it works. Stupid solution, but it's better than freezing up during the battle.

[macross]

It's best to have 18, but you don't need an 18 man ls. Just bring your ls and recruit what you need. Who knows maybe you'll find some good players this way. They will see how good you are, and maybe will be a good fit?

We use plds to tank, but war/sams with ukon grab hate pretty easily. kaggen also does stat down and amnesia bs, so ranged attacks work well to dmg him. You can dispel his praying stance but dunno if that will prevent him from death. He doesn't hit that hard so war can tank it np.

Dragon wasnt that hard, jsut a pld or blue to tank it in the air, while you shoot and nuke and kill it with smns.

[Jem]

We did it last night with a pretty melee-heavy setup and it was rather messy. We won with a few minutes to spare but going from what people said afterwards Wildfire CORs/RNGs do decent damage as do BLMs. DD can tank it fine (sorry to be racist but wouldn't recommend using a taru), I'd say Ukon WAR works well. He has a shit ton of HP so timing out is always a danger. Make sure you stun Death Prophet as deaths make it messy.

Just to add to this, if you proc it reasonably well then you'll kill it. It goes down like a sack of shit when procced, it's just when it isn't procced your DD's take pretty hefty damage if not in PDT gear and it throw loads of dickish debuffs at you like slow/amnesia and all stats down which obviously hinder killspeed.

I suggested ranged damage before our kill yesterday and stand by that purely because of all the debuffs. If you're melee heavy then things can be tight on time if it decides to screw you over with procs.

[Telamond]

Spawned Kaggen today and it started with the cobalt death move. Never seen that happen.

Also, got confirmed trigger of Shiva blizz 2 for Ice avatar bp.

[Draylo]

BLU is a beast against Kaggen, can spam Regurgitation for easy ~700 dmg every ~10 seconds and its hateless. Can also use Charged whisker ~1200, Thunder bolt ~1000, Dark orb ~1000, E. Grudge ~1000 but they will get you hate after a little so I use them for stagger or when I can do it w/o pulling hate.

[Atoreis]

BLU is a beast against Kaggen, can spam Regurgitation for easy ~700 dmg every ~10 seconds and its hateless. Can also use Charged whisker ~1200, Thunder bolt ~1000, Dark orb ~1000, E. Grudge ~1000 but they will get you hate after a little so I use them for stagger or when I can do it w/o pulling hate.

Im pretty sure its nothing new really. You can do it on 95% VW. The main problem is you need to change spells for staggers and cant cast for a good amount of time in the fight.

[vagus]

You know, If you dont want to see peoples mules getting drops, stop bringing mules?

Lol. Straight up.

The drop rate is horrible but that is nothing new. I just wish SE would allow us to put items into the main pool and let us decide like in abyssea.

Blu can be a beast in VW, but it's a waste of a slot for a trigger job. Corsair with DD's with Save TP rolls & atmatice capped is the best. So broken.

[Draylo]

Im pretty sure its nothing new really. You can do it on 95% VW. The main problem is you need to change spells for staggers and cant cast for a good amount of time in the fight.

Ok? They were asking for strat against a specific NM. You should be capped lights around 40% anyway on a Tier3... Plenty of time to DD to finish it w/o needing to swap spells. You could say the same for all other jobs though as they will be running in and out using shit ws or weapons. So your post is pretty silly.

Blu can be a beast in VW, but it's a waste of a slot for a trigger job.

Not really, its easily one of the best DD and has unique procs that could be a potential high vurn proc.

[Atoreis]

Ok? They were asking for strat against a specific NM. You should be capped lights around 40% anyway on a Tier3... Plenty of time to DD to finish it w/o needing to swap spells. You could say the same for all other jobs though as they will be running in and out using shit ws or weapons. So your post is pretty silly.

Lol sorry... I watch this forum pretty often and already lost the context that you was answering the question. For me it looked like random post from you. My bad ^^

Lol. Straight up.

The drop rate is horrible but that is nothing new. I just wish SE would allow us to put items into the main pool and let us decide like in abyssea.

Blu can be a beast in VW, but it's a waste of a slot for a trigger job. Corsair with DD's with Save TP rolls & atmatice capped is the best. So broken.

Wtf man? BLU have tons of staggers and the point is Regurgitation is hateless and can be execute w/o the mess that comes with many melee. Obviously melee way is probably faster etc. if you have enough ppl but thats not the point. Its always safest and fastest way and the sweet spot between them and BLU with reg is very near that spot.

[takito09]

A friend of mine reported this problem ( xbox freezing a lot during VW battles) to SE support center and they told him the problem is should be adressed to Microsoft because.. in few words they said its not their problem..

Called to microsoft.. and let them know their problem.. and they said they will look into it... But i doubt Microsoft checks this kind or stuff or they do ??

And i will see what i can look for in the jp forums thanks for the advice, because it's really sad that this event is only for pc users >< (Hopefully today maint was for that .. who knows..)

[Slycer]

This is my suspicion as well. But it gets me to go on THF, and THF is my favorite job... So i won't complain about it. Franky I'm only asking because someone started Freaking-out/E-thuggin' out at me that i didn't upgrade TH To at least 10 or higher, To which i thought "We cap all of our lights why does it matter?".

It's impossible to hard-cap green and yellow because the hard-cap (before periapts) is apparently 500%, so TH will always give a bonus to EXP and cruor, even if lights are capped (first cap is 225%, cap with cells is 300%, TH adds bonus after both of those). That being said, I'm pretty certain the alignment bonus on lights is maxed out at 8% (TH8 or higher). We've had battles where TH was at level 9 by the end and still only got 8% bonus. I don't think anything over TH8 matters (plus, you can get TH5 from Bounty Shots on RNG fairly easily and RNG has far more exclusive procs).