Voidwatch Discussion

[Atoreis]

The hell?
I went
1/1 sandoria body mextli harness
1/3 windurst body (got at at the third pop) worst part i dont even have a mage job so i did drop it at my storage, magic attack bonus+5 sphere
1/2 Bastok body

I was not even looking for bodies was just getting clears, i even got tefnut wand (3.5million) 1/1 and rancer too, all from getting clears only hell even lights was not capped in "some" fights but not sure if i got the bodies from the ones when light was not capped

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/17057/tefnut-wand i sold last one in asura

Are cities bodies drop rate much higher or what? its kinda crazy for people to do Jeuno NMs over 100 and get no drops at what point do you move on? lol, I'm 1/6 with the damage taken-8% body (can't use it, my jobs are nin+blu+thf only)

I only did each Jeuno T3 few times to get clears and moved on why bother, the level99 bodies are better from the leaked info with the whole nyzle+5 and others

Yes maybe i got lucky? dunno but my point wtf @SE how can this be good drop rate system according to their latest interview? when people get stuff they dont want (like me) and some working hard +100 pop with no drops?



I'm 100% sure i have received 6 drops before with nothing but crap in them (logs/stones etc) more than once, people i do with usually cap lights+we have a thf+i trade 6 cells (3rubi 3cobalt)

My LS is 1/1000 for city bodys (counting around 50+ done with 18ally) and the one time we saw a body was ... me and I got Anhur.... Its on my mannequin for past 3 months.

EDIT: Also There is no -DT body in next update I think and there is no new 6%haste belt that WAR can use. Im not sure if there is something better in update than Akvan body too. I think that only thing replaced is Toci (with Denali).

[Neisan]

You got insanely lucky on City Bodies and I hate you so much right now

[Seph]

You got insanely lucky on City Bodies and I hate you so much right now

http://i39.tinypic.com/zmb6lw.jpg
Wish if i can sell it, thinking of even dropping it to save 1 space in my bags

My LS is 1/1000 for city bodys (counting around 50+ done with 18ally) and the one time we saw a body was ... me and I got Anhur.... Its on my mannequin for past 3 months.

EDIT: Also There is no -DT body in next update I think and there is no new 6%haste belt that WAR can use. Im not sure if there is something better in update than Akvan body too. I think that only thing replaced is Toci (with Denali).

I already got a belt with haste+7% that a war can use though plus isn't the Damage taken-8 will be obsolete next update "if" you are going for best setup? can already cap magic damage taken with Shell/neck/back/rings and the earing+new ring next update that you remove after getting shell/protect to increase their effects, i doubt that people will use -8% physical damage taken over the new bodies with ton of stats, its surely nice to have but i think not worth trying +100 and still but maybe that's just me

[Seph]

double post

[Neisan]

For Mekira (DT-8 ) body it has some use in non-Nocturnus MDT sets and for Brovura capped DT/Haste aftermath or capped PDT set in some builds.

[Buffy]

Yah, virtually the only reason I do voidwatch is plates, and i've recieved one plate in 9 akvan, 6 qilin and 1 kaggen. i've spent more on cells then I would have simply buying plates in bazaar.

[Dtroyy]

The hell?
I went
1/1 sandoria body mextli harness
1/3 windurst body (got at at the third pop) worst part i dont even have a mage job so i did drop it at my storage, magic attack bonus+5 sphere
1/2 Bastok body

I was not even looking for bodies was just getting clears, i even got tefnut wand (3.5million) 1/1 and rancer too, all from getting clears only hell even lights was not capped in "some" fights but not sure if i got the bodies from the ones when light was not capped

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/17057/tefnut-wand i sold last one in asura

Are cities bodies drop rate much higher or what? its kinda crazy for people to do Jeuno NMs over 100 and get no drops at what point do you move on? lol, I'm 1/6 with the damage taken-8% body (can't use it, my jobs are nin+blu+thf only)

I only did each Jeuno T3 few times to get clears and moved on why bother, the level99 bodies are better from the leaked info with the whole nyzle+5 and others

Yes maybe i got lucky? dunno but my point wtf @SE how can this be good drop rate system according to their latest interview? when people get stuff they dont want (like me) and some working hard +100 pop with no drops?



I'm 100% sure i have received 6 drops before with nothing but crap in them (logs/stones etc) more than once, people i do with usually cap lights+we have a thf+i trade 6 cells (3rubi 3cobalt)

Congrats on having a VW friendly IP address... lol

[Atoreis]

http://i39.tinypic.com/zmb6lw.jpg
Wish if i can sell it, thinking of even dropping it to save 1 space in my bags



I already got a belt with haste+7% that a war can use though plus isn't the Damage taken-8 will be obsolete next update "if" you are going for best setup? can already cap magic damage taken with Shell/neck/back/rings and the earing+new ring next update that you remove after getting shell/protect to increase their effects, i doubt that people will use -8% physical damage taken over the new bodies with ton of stats, its surely nice to have but i think not worth trying +100 and still but maybe that's just me

First of bullwhip has -75HP (which is highly unfriendly for VW) and Phasmida has also +6acc.
Second of all, technically more run you did more stupid is to give up (because statistically your chance is rising with every fail)
Third of all, your comment about new body vs PDT has no sense at all. You use PDT when you need to survive or macro it for TP move not when you try to optimize your dd output. DDs w/o PDT set are gimps and make PUGs much longer when they dieing like flies and you need to wait for weak to wear off before next fight.

[Seph]

First of bullwhip has -75HP (which is highly unfriendly for VW) and Phasmida has also +6acc.
Second of all, technically more run you did more stupid is to give up (because statistically your chance is rising with every fail)
Third of all, your comment about new body vs PDT has no sense at all. You use PDT when you need to survive or macro it for TP move not when you try to optimize your dd output. DDs w/o PDT set are gimps and make PUGs much longer when they dieing like flies and you need to wait for weak to wear off before next fight.

Fair enough, my point was only is is it worth doing hundred of the same voidwatch to get 6acc and 75hp versus 1 more haste? or losing ton of powerful damage output (from the lv99 bodies) for a -8pdt? i see people wear it full time not only during tp moves to get the set effect from the helm, if the drop rate was responsible sure but doing hundred runs and still with 0 drop yet keep doing it seems crazy to me, also it seems SE is doing great to keep people playing and paying instead of going 1/1 and moving on

Other than the awesome +5 sets there are also some interesting stuff for example for those who are interested in receiving less damage

Body: Lv99, Acc+20 Enm+8 Haste+4 MDT-5%
WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG

full set
Head: Lv98, HP+40 MP+40 STR+10 Damage Taken-5% Set: Refresh
Body: Lv99, Acc+20 Enm+8 Haste+4 MDT-5% Set: Refresh
Hands: Lv97, HP+30, STR+7 DEX+4 Store TP+10 Set: Refresh
Legs: Lv98, Attack+20 Acc+20 PDT-5% WS Damage+3% Set: Refresh
Feet: Lv96, INT+5 MND+5 Magic Def Bonus+3 MDT-3% Set: Refresh
WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG


or
Body
STR+15 DEX+15 Attack+20 Accuracy+10 Haste+3% Critical Hit Rate+2% Refresh
lv99 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG

Body
STR+10 DEX+10 Attack+10 Accuracy+10 Evasion-15 Critical Hit Rate+4%
lv97 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM NIN

And that's just a few of the new stuff for lv99 many of them are AH gear

[Atoreis]

Fair enough, my point was only is is it worth doing hundred of the same voidwatch to get 6acc and 75hp versus 1 more haste? or losing ton of powerful damage output (from the lv99 bodies) for a -8pdt? i see people wear it full time not only during tp moves to get the set effect from the helm

See that doesnt mean anything because noobs are noobs.

At VW you can ride fanatics back to back and dont bother with PDT set at all if you are lucky. At some point you wont tho and mob will start hitting you (at least from my perspective because I tank everything on MNK). If I wouldnt switch to my 40%+ PDT set at this point I would wipe like all those noobs I see laying on the ground when moments like this happen. When you get new fanatic you go back to TP set etc.

Obviously you can and probably should have full PDT/MDT sets that you use for TP moves only and hybrid set that you use as temporary TP set when you need to survive. Hybrid set like that should be balanced with PDT/haste/acc so for example for WAR would looks like this:

______/_____/_____/Angha
Chersos/twilight/darkness/brutal
Mekira/Magma/Dark/Dark
Mollusca/Phasmida/AF3+2/af3+2

Thats 42% PDT and 22%haste (shadow mantle is also an option)

For full PDT I would add those new legs with 5%, jingang feet, 2nd darkness earring and flume belt and switch back to shadow mantle for 50%PDT+shadow mantle.

In my last 70 Kaggens I always parsed first. Its usually 27-40% for me and 10-20% for Ragni if he is on RNG and then big gap usually and then some WARs and other DDs. Now If I could party with someone like Ejiin I would probably lose or be equal. Why is that? Because he is not a noob like all those ppl and can survive fanatic down with his PDT set (check his ffxiah profile) and he also use macros for several other sets. I really wish to meet someone like Taint or Ejiin or any other ppl that know their job :/

O btw its worth to note that In those 70 Kaggens I died 2 times and yesterday I havent died even with completely terrible WHM (one of the worst JP whm I played with) He didnt give me single paralyna, sacrifice, erase or haste. I still kept hate most of the time and didnt wipe even in one fight when I had fanatic down for around 8min. If I wouldnt bother with my PDT hybrid set I would end up dead and probably whole ally would wipe to.

Im 0/78 now btw at Kaggen (Obviously all those noobs I mentioned always get belts and sometimes bodys...)

[Zag]

See that doesnt mean anything because noobs are noobs.

At VW you can ride fanatics back to back and dont bother with PDT set at all if you are lucky. At some point you wont tho and mob will start hitting you (at least from my perspective because I tank everything on MNK). If I wouldnt switch to my 40%+ PDT set at this point I would wipe like all those noobs I see laying on the ground when moments like this happen. When you get new fanatic you go back to TP set etc.

Obviously you can and probably should have full PDT/MDT sets that you use for TP moves only and hybrid set that you use as temporary TP set when you need to survive. Hybrid set like that should be balanced with PDT/haste/acc so for example for WAR would looks like this:

______/_____/_____/Angha
Chersos/twilight/darkness/brutal
Mekira/Magma/Dark/Dark
Mollusca/Phasmida/AF3+2/af3+2

Thats 42% PDT and 22%haste (shadow mantle is also an option)

For full PDT I would add those new legs with 5%, jingang feet, 2nd darkness earring and flume belt and switch back to shadow mantle for 50%PDT+shadow mantle.

In my last 70 Kaggens I always parsed first. Its usually 27-40% for me and 10-20% for Ragni if he is on RNG and then big gap usually and then some WARs and other DDs. Now If I could party with someone like Ejiin I would probably lose or be equal. Why is that? Because he is not a noob like all those ppl and can survive fanatic down with his PDT set (check his ffxiah profile) and he also use macros for several other sets. I really wish to meet someone like Taint or Ejiin or any other ppl that know their job :/

O btw its worth to note that In those 70 Kaggens I died 2 times and yesterday I havent died even with completely terrible WHM (one of the worst JP whm I played with) He didnt give me single paralyna, sacrifice, erase or haste. I still kept hate most of the time and didnt wipe even in one fight when I had fanatic down for around 8min. If I wouldnt bother with my PDT hybrid set I would end up dead and probably whole ally would wipe to.

Im 0/78 now btw at Kaggen (Obviously all those noobs I mentioned always get belts and sometimes bodys...)

Bodies always seem to drop at least every 4 runs. We get an average of 2 bodies every 8 or something runs on any city or jeuno run.

Get the damn periapt that raises lights, Bring a max treasure hunter THF, trade 3 cells red and/or 3 cells blue, and cap your damn lights.... Bodies drop like flys all the time and so do those kaggen belts. Nothing in VW is a bad drop rate really.

1/1000..... You counted all 1000 of your VW battles? Nothing is 1/1000 in this game. I seen about every drop in this entire game in under 20 kills including defending ring and usukane body 35 which were the hardest of all the drops I ever seen.

[NynJa]

Bodies always seem to drop at least every 4 runs. We get an average of 2 bodies every 8 or something runs on any city or jeuno run.

Get the damn periapt that raises lights, Bring a max treasure hunter THF, trade 3 cells red and/or 3 cells blue, and cap your damn lights.... Bodies drop like flys all the time and so do those kaggen belts. Nothing in VW is a bad drop rate really.

1/1000..... You counted all 1000 of your VW battles? Nothing is 1/1000 in this game. I seen about every drop in this entire game in under 20 kills including defending ring and usukane body 35 which were the hardest of all the drops I ever seen.

cliffnotes version of this post:
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[Seph]

Next update also got vivid Periapt of glory (Increase RED light by 25%) not sure if it will help that much with drop rates , hopefully people get better drop rates.

[pancakesandsex]

Won't the periapt simply help you cap faster? Or is it 350+25%?

[Nightfyre]

It's 350+25%, you already get 525% blue with the appropriate periapt + capped lights + cells.

[Lyramion]

Well to start:

- Have Jeuno VW Cleared
- Talk to any VW officer to get a letter KI
- Get CS in Rulude where you are handed your White Stratum IV

> Can now warp to "Jeuno II" zones with Cruor port and pop stuff.

[Chronosphere]

Beetle and Fairy are annoying, but relatively easy so far

[Khiinroye]

T1 is catalysis.
T2 is glory.

After doing t2, you get an alarum, and go back to jeuno for 50k, but you don't upgrade.

Go to the past, and get an alarum, and go to past jeuno for your white 6.

NOTE:
There is an old CS at the past jeuno door that you weren't summoned for, where you get 30k. If you have not already gotten that, then you will be unable to get the alarum in the past. Get the CS and your gil, and then wait a game day, and you should be able to get the alarum.

[pooter01]

Second of all, technically more run you did more stupid is to give up (because statistically your chance is rising with every fail)
.

/sigh

The odds of a particular outcome of a random event do NOT change as the event is repeated, unless used outcomes are removed from the pool of possible outcomes(which in NM drops, it is not). You have a 5%(random guess) chance on the first kill, and a 5% chance on the 1,000,000th kill, regardless of how many times it has or hasn't dropped already. Bet you're the guy that spends his life savings in the casino because "I've already lost so much, I'm bound to win next roll"

[Ganukay]

Just did Jeuno T4s.

H-8 Ronfaure drops: Athos boots, Blithe Mantle
didn't get much info on this NM

J-10 Gustaberg drops: Rubeus Boots, Sheltered Ring
liked using norn arrows and lethe arrows. stun lands.

G-11 Saruta drops: Witful Belt
Uses chainspell and Exponential Burst, draws in hate target

Edit: forgot to add, riftsand dropped from all of them
Edit2: also forgot rift positions