Voidwatch Discussion

[Tachi]

Zantetsuken is effective on Botulus Rex.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...se/Botulus.jpg
3 Summoners can take off more than 12% with Odin. Thunderstorm 5/5 with Atmacite of Skyblaze does 2300~2550 dmg unresisted. It doesn't seem to build a resistance to Stun (after over 30 Shock Squall).
EA/scherzo/NoShell is a good way to handle CS Meteor (if no Fool's Drink) and the hate decay.

Botulux Rex has about 150.000 hp and Auto-Regen (50~ Hp/tick)
Slimy Proposal (AoE Charm for 1 min) inflicts Dia also.
His melee hits have add effect Amnesia, HP max down, Knockback or Stun (if behind)

[Septimus]

Zantetsuken is effective on Botulus Rex.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...se/Botulus.jpg
3 Summoners can take off more than 12% with Odin. Thunderstorm 5/5 with Atmacite of Skyblaze does 2300~2550 dmg unresisted. It doesn't seem to build a resistance to Stun (after over 30 Shock Squall).
EA/scherzo/NoShell is a good way to handle CS Meteor (if no Fool's Drink) and the hate decay.

Botulux Rex has about 150.000 hp and Auto-Regen (50~ Hp/tick)
Slimy Proposal (AoE Charm for 1 min) inflicts Dia also.
His melee hits have add effect Amnesia, HP max down, Knockback or Stun (if behind)

If he doesn't build resistance to stun, how does Chaotic Strike do against him? (Probably resists Physical Damage though...)

[Tardevil]

For those that have completed the Jeuno 2 path, how would you rank the difficulty of the 5 tier 6s?

[reaper1228]

I'd probably rate them

Rex - hardest
Kalasutrax
Ig Alima
Ocythoe = Guanab - easiest

[Darkmagi]

Fuck rex and kalasutrax really.

[vagus]

I'd probably rate them

Rex - hardest
Kalasutrax
Ig Alima
Ocythoe = Guanab - easiest

Ig Alima is a Qilin+1. Kalasutrax, you need good stuners. Rex the Hutt, fuck that NM. Lol.

[Alkimi]

Zantetsuken is effective on Botulus Rex.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...se/Botulus.jpg
3 Summoners can take off more than 12% with Odin. Thunderstorm 5/5 with Atmacite of Skyblaze does 2300~2550 dmg unresisted. It doesn't seem to build a resistance to Stun (after over 30 Shock Squall).
EA/scherzo/NoShell is a good way to handle CS Meteor (if no Fool's Drink) and the hate decay.

Botulux Rex has about 150.000 hp and Auto-Regen (50~ Hp/tick)
Slimy Proposal (AoE Charm for 1 min) inflicts Dia also.
His melee hits have add effect Amnesia, HP max down, Knockback or Stun (if behind)

Might try SMN burning him with a few trigger jobs to see how it goes. Although his huge HP could be a problem getting it done in 30 mins.

[Colenzo]

We had 2 BLMs, Ukon war, 5 SMNs and a COR for damage with a couple of PLDs(Aegis and Ochain). We took it down to 60% in like 10 minutes. The corsair was doing most of the damage of course but the damage from the SMNs is fucking sweet. We were using SMNs that had 5/5 Thunderstorm and after they would do thunderstorm they would do shocking squall to stun him. It worked really well, we didn't have them dismiss pets, they would just wait for rex to kill their pets. The only reason we didn't win was people with poor positioning and not standing(SMNs standing next to BLMs when they had their own designated area) where they were told and just generally standing around when rex would come their way instead of moving... BRD not using scherzo etc. We had one of the SMNs doing earthen armor on the SMN party also. Can a capable team of people try this out?

[Atoreis]

Killed today with very little trouble (JP shout)
Aegis/burtgang PLD that semi tanked (pretty much hate was bouncing soon between him and CORs and BLMs)

party of 4 BLMs with scherzo/armor
party of war,drk,whmx2,cor,nin for staggers
party of cor,whm,pld,rng,smn and last job i dont remember ; ;

pretty much

1.stagger>full attack
2. if no 2nd stagger before first wear off than DDs fanatics and still full attack
3. chainspell = fast stun + everyone fool drink and full attack
4. First chainspell is at 69% I think and 2nd is random or around 20%
5. Under 50% stun as much as possible if no stagger and fanatics up.
6. They always saved white stagger for under 50% to make a use with it and same goes for easy HQ staggers. Pretty much he wanted to keep it staggered under 50% as much as possible and if he (leader) knew that stagger is close (like hq RNG JA for example) he said to use all temps and full atatck after stagger
7. It was going down VERY fast in that full attack phase
8. WAR DRK NIN pretty much only try to stagger. melee damage is useless
9. I was drk/sch for dark arts and alacrity was helpful. Stun just after chainspell activation is really important to let ppl use fool before they die

EDIT: Last person was 3rd COR.

[Colenzo]

I will try this setup and see what happens.

[Lyramion]

Is there any info on how manawall works with Scherzo/EA ? Is there a further reduction step?

[Colenzo]

id imagine that its calculated before ea/scherzo so it probably messes with it

[Odin'sLaw]

what is a good strait for kalasutrax? tried smn burn, cor wildfire burn, zerg, mix of prog spam, his damage taken is just so low can't get it past 20% in 30 Min's how are others able to get him down?

[reaper1228]

I usually bring a pretty strong blm pt for stunning yama's judgement as well as damage dealing since magic damage works fairly well on it.
Usually do 4-6 blms, 1 pld tank and rest of the spots are all the magic stagger jobs and various DDs. Its a long fight, 20-25 minutes, but I don't have trouble killing it.

You can also try stunning Raksha Stance after a stagger to keep the PDT to a minimum, its the first tp move it has to use.

[Atoreis]

what is a good strait for kalasutrax? tried smn burn, cor wildfire burn, zerg, mix of prog spam, his damage taken is just so low can't get it past 20% in 30 Min's how are others able to get him down?

Keep stagger and zerg with melee. Took maybe 5 min (close to 10 with unlucky staggers)

[Lyramion]

Keep stagger and zerg with melee. Took maybe 5 min (close to 10 with unlucky staggers)

This, handle it like Quilin. But sometimes he just wins.

[Dro]

Kille Rex twice again with the same setup as before, 4 CORs (or 5, not sure) with a SMN, 3 BLMs (one was /SCH for stun alacrity), WAR NIN BLU for the rest of procs. Tank PT was one aegis PLD, 2 WHMs and a BRD. BLMs stunned like 90% of tp move, which is REALLY helpful.

With march x2, atonement (421 dmg iirc), cure cheat, it's relatively easy to keep hate. I think i had hate 65%~ of the time.

One thing you need to be careful with is: when Rex is about to end chainspell and if hate is not on pld, be rdy to stun it because it will use a tp move right after the end of CS and if it is Just Dessert, it will kill everyone around.

I dont know if t happened to someone else too but i got a blank hint for a HQ proc during the fight "Highly vulnerable "blank" to special abilities."

One last thing, i know it's not a big sample but on 4 kills we got 2 Athos's Tabard and 3 nq knife.

[Alkimi]

Is there any info on how manawall works with Scherzo/EA ? Is there a further reduction step?

Not sure but I do know that Fanatic's Drink and Manawall don't work well together (Damage still eats your MP).

[6souls]

Did an Ig-Alima run last night & now it's using Bolt of Perdition (Area of Effect damage, additional effect Mute and Amnesia) at that start of the fight. Are others noticing this on their pops?

[Slycer]

In case it wasn't mentioned earlier in the thread, riftsand was back-added into the lower Jeuno tiers. Got some off Mellonia last night.