Sky/Abjuration Gear Synergy Augments

[Slycer]

Hq3 seems to add 1 stat, haste3 and 1 random.

Definitely saw SS of Haste+4 Armada Hands so they are probably 3-4 for HQ3 (or maybe even 2-4).

Were the stats all AGI, CHR, DEX, and VIT? Or were there other ones that showed up frequently (as in more than once)?

[takito09]

Valkyrie legs with mab +4 and ele magic skill are sick >< (even better than af3+2..) just saw them the other day..

[Aumaan_Kujata]

So if that's true, the follow-up question is does the entire range of possibilities shift up or does only the maximum shift up? For example, does DEX (2-4) on NQ become DEX (3-5) or DEX (2-5) on HQ base armor? I'd assume the whole range shifts up, but I don't know for sure.

I've got tons of fastcast+1 and mdb+1 on blood cuisses (and a vit+1 on an nq synergy result, heh). Min end doesn't move up (on at least some stats).

[Aumaan_Kujata]

79 blood cuisses results to add to the general mix.

Stuff outside the range boundaries in the OP:
NQ: mdb(1), meva(4-5)
HQ1: eva(2-6), meva(2-6), vit(2-6)
HQ2: fastcast(2-4), mdb(2-4), eva(3-7), vit(3-7)
HQ3: fastcast(3), mdb(4), eva(4), meva(5), vit(4)
(sadly for me, I've mostly found new lower edges rather than upper)


Here's the raw results:

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(first number is ponz reward, (silhouette) means straighter silhouette message just before ending)
100 <fire element>+1
110 fastcast+1, mdb+1
120 fastcast+4, vit+7
120 fastcast+2, resist grav+3
110 fastcast+3, eva+5 (silhouette)
120 fastcast+2, mdb+2
110 fastcast+1, meva+3
130 fastcast+3, meva+7, resist bind+3
110 fastcast+3, eva+4 (silhouette)
100 eva+3
100 mdb+1
110 fastcast+1, mdb+3
110 fastcast+3, <light element>+2 (sil)
110 fastcast+2, vit+6
110 fastcast+2, resist bind+4
120 fastcast+3, vit+4
110 fastcast+2, vit+2
110 fastcast+1, meva+6 (silhouette)
110 fastcast+1, meva+2 (silhouette)
120 fastcast+3, vit+3
130 fastcast+4, <light element>+5, acc+3
120 fastcast+4, eva+4
120 fastcast+2, eva+7
110 fastcast+3, vit+2
110 fastcast+2, vit+5
110 fastcast+1, mdb+3
110 fastcast+3, <earth element>+2
120 fastcast+2, mdb+3
110 fastcast+2, resist bind+3
110 fastcast+1, mdb+1
110 fastcast+2, vit+2
120 fastcast+2, eva+7
110 fastcast+3, eva+3
110 fastcast+1, meva+5
120 fastcast+2, vit+5
110 fastcast+2, meva+6
110 fastcast+1, resist stun+3
120 fastcast+3, resist paralyze+4
120 fastcast+3, resist stun+1
110 fastcast+1, mdb+2
120 fastcast+3, resist gravity+4
110 fastcast+2, vit+4 (silhouette)
100 meva+5
120 fastcast+3, mdb+3
100 vit+1
110 fastcast+1, resist paralyze+1
100 vit+2
130 fastcast+3, mdb+4, eva+7
110 fastcast+1, eva+4
110 fastcast+1, meva+4
120 fastcast+3, eva+4
110 fastcast+2, <ice element>+5
110 fastcast+1, meva+2
130 fastcast+4, meva+5, agi+1
110 fastcast+1, eva+2
110 fastcast+1, vit+5
110 fastcast+4, resist virus+1
130 fastcast+4, vit+4, resist sleep+2
100 vit+3
--------- second batch
110 fastcast+1, eva+6
100 meva+4 (silhouette)
110 fastcast+1, vit+6
110 fastcast+2, vit+4
120 fastcast+2, eva+3
120 fastcast+3, meva+3
100 meva+5 (silhouette)
130 fastcast+3, eva+4, resist blind+4
120 fastcast+2, meva+6
120 fastcast+2, mdb+2
120 fastcast+3, mdb+4
120 fastcast+3, resist silence+4
110 fastcast+3, eva+3
110 fastcast+2, meva+4
130 fastcast+3, mdb+5, meva+7
110 fastcast+2, vit+3
120 fastcast+4, <ice element>+5
110 fastcast+1, <fire element>+5
120 fastcast+2, vit+6
110 fastcast+2, resist gravity+4

[xMerlinx]

Have done lots of Byakko's Haidate and noticed a difference on number for tiers.
NQ: Crit Dmg + (1-3%)
NQ: Vit Mnd Agi + (1-4)
HQ1: Vit Mnd Agi + (2-5)
HQ2: Vit Mnd Agi + (2-6)
HQ3: Crit Dmg + (2-4%)

[Alistrianna]

(sadly for me, I've mostly found new lower edges rather than upper)

Pretty much this with the last 81 shura heads I did. I mostly just discovered the minimum value on a given stat could appear on any HQ1 and 2 tier. I couldn't say for sure on HQ3 though.

[Slycer]

So when can we throw out the idea that "straighter silhouette" has anything to do with higher tier HQs or even HQing in general (check Aumaan's raw data if you don't know what I'm referring to)? lol

[Alistrianna]

if it does anything, the difference is too small to be noticeable

[cdgreg]

I just do within 1% + or -. I used to go over, feed opposite element to decrease, hope for an even or odd number, etc, etc. Eventually I just said fuck it and +/-1 is fine. Made it a lot faster and I still had solid results.

[xMerlinx]

Same here as Cdgreg. I used to line up perfectly, then remove impurities, then thwack away until message. Now I just + or -1, and get good results, as far as HQs go.

[Alistrianna]

Same here as Cdgreg. I used to line up perfectly, then remove impurities, then thwack away until message. Now I just + or -1, and get good results, as far as HQs go.

What Slycer is reffering to is this message: "The synergy furnace seems to taken on a straighter silhouette!" You can only receive this message while Thwacking the furnace while there is no danger of it exploding. It is theorized that getting this message may improve your HQ rate or HQ tier achieved when you "End Synergy", but there is no solid evidence to support it.

[Alarial]

So it's believed that impurities don't make a difference? What about how close you are to the element?

I'm kinda new .

[cdgreg]

What Slycer is reffering to is this message: "The synergy furnace seems to taken on a straighter silhouette!" You can only receive this message while Thwacking the furnace while there is no danger of it exploding. It is theorized that getting this message may improve your HQ rate or HQ tier achieved when you "End Synergy", but there is no solid evidence to support it.

I understand that. I was just passing along my common practice of not worrying about straighter silhouette or even exact element for that matter. +/-1 seems acceptable to me. Don't get me wrong, if I was trying to HQ something worthwhile I'd make sure it was perfect, and try the other little beliefs, but for tatters, meh spammy spam spam please.

edit: meh thought you were talking to me because I saw my name in there, then realized it was a quote of merlin, but seems relevant either way.

[Slycer]

Just got a Z.Crown+1 to try to get MAB+5 head, bad streak with NQs (7 out of 13) on these left a bad taste in my mouth so I gave up for the night. Will try some more tomorrow with more tatters.

Zenith Crown +1

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NQ: Magic Crit Rate +3
HQ1: MAB+3, Divine+4
HQ1: MAB+2, Resist Slow+2
NQ: Divine+3
HQ1: MAB+2, Thunder Resist+6
NQ: Dark+5
NQ: Dark+6
HQ3: MAB+3, M.Crit+4, Enhancing+8
HQ1: MAB+1, Dark+5
HQ3: MAB+4, Resist Gravity+1, Enhancing+7
NQ: Dark +6
NQ: Resist Paralyze+2
NQ: Dark +3

[xMerlinx]

What Slycer is reffering to is this message: "The synergy furnace seems to taken on a straighter silhouette!" You can only receive this message while Thwacking the furnace while there is no danger of it exploding. It is theorized that getting this message may improve your HQ rate or HQ tier achieved when you "End Synergy", but there is no solid evidence to support it.

That is what i meant by "then thwack away until message." but HQ rates stayed the same, got NQs just as often and HQ3s just as often.
Btw: Got a nq genbu shield synth with -8% cure cast time didn't see that as max for nq.

[macross]

I got a hq3 on byakko pants today, ended up with AGI 6 and STP +5, only 2 mods;;
So don't always get 2 mods, or there was a double agi mod which they added up together maybe.

I've gotten MP +32 on genbu's shield before as well.

Got a MAB +4 on pair of byakko as well once lol.

Finally got a crit 4% after 20 more scraps today. Had 32 from hq2 and 2x hq3 from seals I bought earlier.

[xMerlinx]

Shura Zunari Kabuto+1 HQ3 max augments got 3% SC dmg, 6 DEX, and Conserve TP +6.

[Slycer]

Btw: Got a nq genbu shield synth with -8% cure cast time didn't see that as max for nq.

Hmm.... Maybe HQ3 caps higher than -8% then?

[Michelob]

Hmm.... Maybe HQ3 caps higher than -8% then?

Isn't Cure Potency the HQ stat? Perhaps the cap is only higher on one stat per item for HQ3.

[Aja]

I am working on augmenting Shura Haidate. So far I have gotten +1 STR on them, which isn't on the main list. I heard you can get +6 STR, but I haven't been that lucky yet. Have more tatters to continue after work.