New or Returning Players Discussion (Or Anything Old FFXI Then Vs. Now)

**Buffy** · 2011-08-25 20:59

Originally Posted by wyrmtung

I quit when level cap was 75. I was just curious on which zones used to be tiger at lvl 75 but are pussy cats at lvl 90? Like you used to have to sneak/invis like crazy but now that you're 90 nothing aggros anymore. I can imagine some NMs are easier to hunt now and even solo. What about BCNMs? Are the no-cap BCNMs still no-cap? Cuz that would be awesome to duo or trio those MF'ers.

Everything that aggro'd at 75, still aggro's at 90. You still need sneak/invis, but they lengthened the duration and it sometimes lasts 10 minutes +. Some mission BCNM are now uncapped, or capped at 90. Most of the NM you camped @ 75 don't matter anymore because of new gear provided in Abyssea. Fafnir/Turtle/Behe are now popped from an item dropped in their respective KSNM fights, and HQ pops come from those pops. Black Belt items only drop from HQ mobs, no chance of dropping from fafnir now. As a result, it appears to me (personal opinion) that obtaining black belt is now more difficult. There are limited exceptions to the 'nothing is worth camping rule), Herald Gaiters still go for 10M+ on Slyph. Although some bcnm items still sell good, like Utsusemi: Ni scroll. Aht Urghan is empty, except for those doing besieged to generate IS points, or those doing Assault points in order to do salvage. Port Jeuno is your new home, as opposed to Whitegate, as opposed to Lower Jeuno before that. They put level 90+ mobs in zones like Inner Horatio Ruins and Dangruf Wadi, primarily for skillup and used with GoV. Level 75 BCNMs are capped at 75, and I can't think of a worthwhile item that comes out of them off-hand. Although I'm probably missing something.

**bungiefan** · 2011-08-26 02:38

Because of Magian Trials, enemies that were worth EXP at 75 are still worth EXP at 90, so they still aggro you. Otherwise trials would be impossible, since the enemy has to be worth EXP for trial completion. Enemies level 59+ will aggro at 90.

**Kasrus** · 2011-08-26 04:11

Possible to farm gold pyxis for af3 solo? I've done some reading up on lights so seems pretty simple to get them, but can't really find out what mobs I can take on. Just wondering if this is something I can do alone while killing time =/

**Gokulo** · 2011-08-26 04:55

No problem. Just pick a non-annoying family of mobs, make sure no huge group is killing them so they don't turn VT/IT on and... enjoy

**Tradition** · 2011-08-29 09:09

SE's locked-out character reactivations, so I guess I'll finally make that second account I wanted. Is there anyone on Leviathan that minds hanging out with a level 1 player until I can get my 90 account back on?

**Massimo** · 2011-08-29 10:47

Herpderp

**Souj** · 2011-08-29 10:49

Originally Posted by Tradition

SE's locked-out character reactivations, so I guess I'll finally make that second account I wanted. Is there anyone on Leviathan that minds hanging out with a level 1 player until I can get my 90 account back on?

I just reactivated my account just fine this morning. I went to their website, linked my POL to their website, then reactivated my content ID.

This is going to be long and may be a huge pain in the ass to answer fully, but any help is appreciated.

Okay, I just recently came back (today). and I'd like to know what equipment I have that is still good and what needs replaced and what should need replacing as I hit higher levels. I just took inventory and I'll list the things that just aren't completely obvious that I should have or not have;

My jobs are RDM(77) and BLM(74). SMN75, but feel free to ignore smn as it will probably be the last thing I bother getting up to date. I try to keep my RDM very versatile when it comes to nuking, enhancing, enfeebling, melee sets. (though near the end before I quit I sold off most of my rdm melee gear to fund BLM.

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**Gokulo** · 2011-08-29 10:59

Get Abyssea asap, meaning buy the Collection since I don't think you can even buy them separately anymore (and the Collection would still be cheaper), and start gathering stones - huge majority of currently used gear comes from abyssea.

**Souj** · 2011-08-29 11:18

Man, looking at the AH is depressing. Everything I had bought before I quit is now down to like 10% of it's value when I paid for it. Though on the good side, everything I still needed went down too (though I have to question if hte items are still considered good...) All except Sleepga2 that is. that was like 700k when I quit, but now it's up to 1.2mil lol definitely questing that. I'll feel horribly gimp using BLM for stuff other than exp without sleepga2.

**Gwynplaine** · 2011-08-29 12:38

Originally Posted by Souj

Okay, I just recently came back (today). and I'd like to know what equipment I have that is still good and what needs replaced and what should need replacing as I hit higher levels. I just took inventory and I'll list the things that just aren't completely obvious that I should have or not have;

My jobs are RDM(77) and BLM(74). SMN75, but feel free to ignore smn as it will probably be the last thing I bother getting up to date. I try to keep my RDM very versatile when it comes to nuking, enhancing, enfeebling, melee sets. (though near the end before I quit I sold off most of my rdm melee gear to fund BLM.

For RDM you can look at my lists of gear for the current max amount of each stat per slot:
http://parchmentpaper.blogspot.com/2...ear-stats.html

This doesn't give you "the perfect setup" to actually use or go for, it's just to show what the highest amount is as the new standard in each slot. So you can look at it to get an idea and guide you on finding good gear.

**Priran** · 2011-08-29 18:41

Originally Posted by bungiefan

Because of Magian Trials, enemies that were worth EXP at 75 are still worth EXP at 90, so they still aggro you. Otherwise trials would be impossible, since the enemy has to be worth EXP for trial completion. Enemies level 59+ will aggro at 90.

That's not true, there's a level at which mobs will stop aggroing but still check EP and give EXP. SE probably has some obtuse idea of "balance" that makes them unwilling to let people run worry-free through aggro-to-75 areas.

**bungiefan** · 2011-08-29 22:10

I thought the aggro change was for an upcoming update. I've never seen an mob on my 90 BLM that was worth EXP that wouldn't aggro to whatever it would if it was EM to me. Then again I can't verify any of my observations right now with my current account status.

**Midnightjade** · 2011-09-07 13:05

I kinda miss the game but have been gone since early 2010. I used to go 75BRD to almost everything, good gear but no relic, also had 75BST with good gear and WHM at 66 (I think) plus WHM Limbus items and Roc cure pot+ staff etc. Was working on WHM before I quit although nobody really used it except at endgame, but now it seems it's popular?

Worth coming back? Is the game still fun/more fun? WHM now more useful than BRD? Does BST suck less (unlikely)?

Thanks. ^^

**Eldelphia** · 2011-09-08 06:15

Originally Posted by Midnightjade

I kinda miss the game but have been gone since early 2010. I used to go 75BRD to almost everything, good gear but no relic, also had 75BST with good gear and WHM at 66 (I think) plus WHM Limbus items and Roc cure pot+ staff etc. Was working on WHM before I quit although nobody really used it except at endgame, but now it seems it's popular?

Worth coming back? Is the game still fun/more fun? WHM now more useful than BRD? Does BST suck less (unlikely)?

Thanks. ^^

BRD is still useful because it's a proc'r for inside Abyssea and Scherzo is very useful for certain fights in Voidwatch. It's not hard to gear and the newer instruments aren't too terrible to get hold of. However, life would be substantially easier if you had a couple of friends. XP is a non issue. You may get bored though, as I have done.

BST is very well received now and a lot of people have levelled it. Atma (buffs inside abyssea) transfer to pets as well so there was a huge upsurge in interest in SMN and BST. You can't charm inside abyssea but the new jug pets are awesome and hang around a lot longer. Also magian trial weapons and certain atma reduce the amount of damage your pet can take.

WHM is very, very popular right now because with HP hitting 2-5k inside Abyssea and WHM being the only job so far getting access to Cure V and VI (let alone lots of other very nice things and amazing gear) no other mage job can keep up. WHMs are currently the only competitive healer for Voidwatch too with BLU, SMN, SCH and RDM all being great as support but probably not able to keep up with main healing.

**Midnightjade** · 2011-09-08 10:29

Thanks, that sounds quite promising.

I looked at the reactivation guide, but it says the servers are down for maintenance. Is there anywhere I can find a guide to how to reactivate/whether it's possible to reactivate old characters? WHen I left I just canceled content IDs, no deletion involved.

Appreciate the advice.

[edit - think I got it - I transferred my PO account over to my SE account, and when I did so it showed my main and mules marked with a circle - means they're available for use? Ty]

**Midnightjade** · 2011-09-08 17:42

OK, I'm installed, and can reactivate, but can someone tell me how to get my free 30 days of play, and how to get the free destrier beret when I do get in?

Sorry for the questions - I see the SE method of information dispersal (lock in vault, throw away key) hasn't changed.

**Tamago** · 2011-09-08 17:52

You only get the 30 days free if it's a new account. You don't get it at all if you're reactivating.

**Midnightjade** · 2011-09-08 17:56

It's a new copy of the game, so I guess I'm probably ok.

I think I figured it out, in fact - plus the code for the dippy beret.

One last thing though - I think I may have deleted my xml files for BRD, BST, WHM, and all subjobs (NIN, SCH etc). Anyone got links to good ones? Thanks so much!

**Midnightjade** · 2011-09-12 08:47

Gee, I had my first taste of Abyssea last night. Glad I came back, it's really fun. Turns out a lot of old buddies still play, and are running a good Abyssea/VNM linkshell.

Also, 80k XP while gently farming pop items and killing NMs in an alliance for a couple of hours sure is a change from the old days. Also, those kids need to get off off my lawn.

**Rehwyn** · 2011-09-20 14:22

Need some advice in regards to gear/clear/atma/etc priorities. I recently returned to the game along with two other friends after a seven year break and we all started new characters. Spent the last few weeks leveling, getting fame, skilling up, getting some more gil, that type of stuff in preparation for gearing up and doing aby. Unfortunately, I'm not sure exactly what is the "best" order for us to do stuff at this point.

Our class distribution right now is nin90/thf90/pld90/rdm71 (soon to be rdm90, mainly to help war cap skills ), war90/dnc90/whm90, and whm90 (joined us only about 2 weeks ago and will be leveling blm soon for proccing purposes). Both nin90 and war90 have all WS procs and we have a friend that can join us as blu90 with Discernment on occasion to help out, so we have a fairly good mix for red and yellow procs when needed. We have managed to get RR, VV, and Minikin Atmas and some random lesser ones. Only La Theine has been cleared by all of us and pretty much nothing else asides from XP has been completed in aby. RotZ and CoP have just barely been started, but are priorities for the rings and earrings. As it stands now, we have 0 AF3 gear, but have a few random seals. No completed magian trial weapons of note, but empy NMs for kannagi and ukon are in progress.

My question is, asides from leeching from empy-geared people, what is in your opinion a good order of priorities for us to complete things from this point that allow us to smoothly catch up? Should we focus on trying to get a few more key atmas (GH, SS, Allure)? Focus on zone clears? Go ahead and stomp RotZ and CoP for those items? We'd really prefer to complete this stuff as our own group instead of just joining randoms, but aren't entirely against the idea if it's seriously save time and hastle.

Thanks!

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