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  1. #681
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    Getting high rank is worth it eventually as it unlocks new spells, summons and rare equipment. For the most part you'll get a bunch of spells and shit as regular rewards, but the high level stuff tends to come from A rank (or max being S? I can't remember) when doing it on Hard or Agito (which have different rewards). You can be like 10 levels under at least to be safe, but much lower if you have confidence in dodging and hitting killsights.

    As for hitting killsights with various long range characters you have to keep in mind their projectiles travel at certain speeds. Some characters you have to predict the killsight appearance and have an attack already flying (the timing is odd because if you attack too fast the killsight won't appear). Which is why certain characters (King/Cater) are better as starters because you don't need to predict and get the timing right whereas Ace and Trey require a lot more precision. Keep in mind that Ace's back normal (floating charged cards) travel faster than his regular attacks as do his skills.

    The only thing I remember being missable is in chapter 7 with a few cut scenes related to those characters who can potentially join class 0. I think the 1st playthrough is the only chance you can see them (they aren't major) but that only happens if you accept their requests on chapter 7 which on your first playthrough is insanity so they're easy to avoid. Ultimately nothing important since everything else can be done in NG+.

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    I did notice during setup there was an option to turn on or off reinforcements from Akademia. Is there a bonus for turning them off and going through without them, or is it just a built in challenge the game allows with no penalty for using them?

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    No bonus in particular that I can remember (though you do get better ranks for going through missions with 1 or 3 people only). Afaik reinforcements are just for SPP? It used to basically be the "do you want to do multiplayer with people or AI" option, but that's not really the same. They might not also count towards deaths so if you're doing a hard mission for the first time it doesn't hurt to have it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    I did notice during setup there was an option to turn on or off reinforcements from Akademia. Is there a bonus for turning them off and going through without them, or is it just a built in challenge the game allows with no penalty for using them?
    Like people told me, during the Game itself turn off the backup because the 2 other character won't get XP

    If you want SPP, use the mission from the main menu (before loading the game) and Gring it there WITH backup)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Like people told me, during the Game itself turn off the backup because the 2 other character won't get XP

    If you want SPP, use the mission from the main menu (before loading the game) and Gring it there WITH backup)
    In regards to SPP farming, here's a little trick. In chapter 3, mission 2, use Deuce with Concerto as your main character. In one of the rooms are flans/eyes that constantly respawn. Can spam concerto to make your SPP allies attack and rack points up until you're bored with it, then can just complete the mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningthought View Post
    It's the "???" golem for the channelgate in chapter 2. I didn't even know you could really kill it.
    I know exactly what he was talking about.
    It just... shouldn't take an hour to kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    I know exactly what he was talking about.
    It just... shouldn't take an hour to kill.
    What point in the game were you at when you tried to kill it? I'm still on chapter 3 and half the characters I ended up using for most the hits still had their starter weapons. All my characters were between 10 and 20 iirc as well. If I'm off with my timing, it still should have taken me at least 45 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    What point in the game were you at when you tried to kill it? I'm still on chapter 3 and half the characters I ended up using for most the hits still had their starter weapons. All my characters were between 10 and 20 iirc as well. If I'm off with my timing, it still should have taken me at least 45 minutes.
    why starter? the Academy sells 2nd tier weapon for each and if you kill 30 mob or (30 killsight) you unlock a SPP wepaon for that character

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    Yeah, I have those weapons for about half my characters. The golem one shots things so it killed my first two that were controlled by npcs, and the way it ended up working out was that most of my breaksights were on characters that I hadn't unlocked and/or gotten the weapon for yet. It was probably only a 65/35 distribution though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    What point in the game were you at when you tried to kill it? I'm still on chapter 3 and half the characters I ended up using for most the hits still had their starter weapons. All my characters were between 10 and 20 iirc as well. If I'm off with my timing, it still should have taken me at least 45 minutes.
    Two things, its not always about timing but also about baiting more moves that actually allow you the opportunity to get break sights and also about buffs (assuming you've been getting the various rations from 'capturing' soldiers). As for my level when killing it, I honestly don't remember considering I did this on the PSP version ages ago but it couldn't have been very high.

    Anywho, this time around I've been making a conscious effort to use Sice more and I like her A LOT more than I did first time around.
    I'm actually getting a lot of use out of Dark Nebula. I'm running Negative Aura/Dark Nebula/Avoid and its versatile as hell and does boatloads of damage. I rarely get hit due to avoid magic so I keep my malice up and just wreck. Not at all bad for a character that I used to feel might be the worst in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    Anywho, this time around I've been making a conscious effort to use Sice more and I like her A LOT more than I did first time around.
    I'm actually getting a lot of use out of Dark Nebula. I'm running Negative Aura/Dark Nebula/Avoid and its versatile as hell and does boatloads of damage. I rarely get hit due to avoid magic so I keep my malice up and just wreck. Not at all bad for a character that I used to feel might be the worst in the game.
    You're welcome, bruh.

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    So after reading on here, if I take care of a lot of the "!" interactions in my first play-through, they're gone for the second/third/etc, yes? Does the same hold true if I do any "tasks"? As in, I get em in on my first run, so they don't re-pop on my second/third/etc?

    Basically, all I'm asking is does more or less everything I do in the first play-through between missions disappear for any play-throughs there after? I'm a bit of a completionist/perfectionist, so I'm trying to do this as efficiently as possible lol

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    They don't disappear. You do them again. It just doesn't take away 2 hours when you do them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardrial View Post
    They don't disappear. You do them again. It just doesn't take away 2 hours when you do them again.
    Sorry to asking again but just wanna make do all the ! not take the 2h on the 2nd playthought? or only the ! you did on the first play that won't take the 2h

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    what the fuck

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    i chose to become a l'cie and what the fuck just happened? it spat level 87 enemies at me until they were eventually 140 something and they wiped my team out lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nep View Post
    what the fuck

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    i chose to become a l'cie and what the fuck just happened? it spat level 87 enemies at me until they were eventually 140 something and they wiped my team out lol
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    That's supposed to happen, it's basically the bad/reset ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardrial View Post
    They don't disappear. You do them again. It just doesn't take away 2 hours when you do them again.
    Ahh, I see I see, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Sorry to asking again but just wanna make do all the ! not take the 2h on the 2nd playthought? or only the ! you did on the first play that won't take the 2h
    The ones you did in the first play through (except the two recruitment chains emina and someone else) are the ones that don't take 2h away. If you skipped them first go around, they will still take 2h in 2nd play through.

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    Ok thanks

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    I can see where the Sice love exists. But damn, Rem is a fucking blade dancing ninja assassin.

    White Lightning too. How did this not become a harem game for Ace?

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