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  1. #2101
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    Do the Tonberries in Abyssea - Konschtat count towards hate?

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    To my experience yes.

  3. #2103
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    Is Oneiros Knife confirmed 10% crit dmg increase or 5%? Or still unconfirmed what it actually is.
    Who did testing on it and where if anyone knows.

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    It's 10%, and was confirmed and posted to BGwiki by Radec: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Talk:Oneiros_Knife

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    Thanks for the link, I read the 10% off of BGwiki but never saw that talk page with the test data.

  6. #2106
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    For MNK Neck piece, 384 base h2h during WS and TPing, Faith Torque when? Has Light Gorget, Peacock, and Agayasa's.

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    Is it possible that Oneiros knife is BiS offhand for Blade: Hi? 6 agi, such quick delay, same crit dmg boost as Kamome, or is base dmg too low?

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    will colossal slam spam from bria hit you if you have perfect dodge up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi View Post
    Is it possible that Oneiros knife is BiS offhand for Blade: Hi? 6 agi, such quick delay, same crit dmg boost as Kamome, or is base dmg too low?
    Slightly ahead for weak shit. My general rule is don't use it if you're not capping cRatio with Berserk up.

  10. #2110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi View Post
    Is it possible that Oneiros knife is BiS offhand for Blade: Hi? 6 agi, such quick delay, same crit dmg boost as Kamome, or is base dmg too low?
    It may be decently competitive, but I highly doubt it's better than kamome.
    Pros: 6 AGI on WS, low delay means swinging your kannagi slightly faster.
    Cons: lower skill (~55 less attack/accuracy on the dagger portion of your hit, more if you have katana merits but not dagger), 8 less attack on the katana portion, over a full DPS point lower.

    Given the ease of getting Kamome vs the relative difficulty of getting O Knife, it's hardly worth consideration.

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    You should also gain TP faster, seeing that you drop 30 delay off your weapon (below 180).

  12. #2112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    For MNK Neck piece, 384 base h2h during WS and TPing, Faith Torque when? Has Light Gorget, Peacock, and Agayasa's.
    Faith for TP, it will raise you another damage tier at your current skill level. For WS, elemental torque should fair better.

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    I've swapped to Rancor for ws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    You should also gain TP faster, seeing that you drop 30 delay off your weapon (below 180).
    Just doing some out-loud math to see how big an effect this has. Not really sure where it'll go.

    With the average 50% DW build, you get 4.2 TP/swing Kannagi/O Knife, 4.4 with Rajas/Brutal. Assuming haste spell and 25% gear, that's 108 delay per round, 23 connected swings to get TP. With 21% DA 3% TA outside abyssea, average swings/round is 2.527. 95% acc means ~2.4 hits/round, so 8-9 rounds on average after WS, making your total delay per WS 984-1092.

    Same assumptions for Kannagi/Kamome, 4.5 TP/swing. Total delay per round 117, 23 connected swings. No DA/TA/Acc change, so still 2.4 hits/round, 8-9 rounds, 1056-1173 delay per WS.

    6.8% increase to WS rate on 8 rounds, 6.9% increase on 9 rounds.

  15. #2115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    I'll probably use something very similar to this then, thoughts? http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/39000

    Subbed out blitz for hoard, and atheling for lancer's pelerine to keep 5 hit.

    Edit: I ask a lot of questions. Can drg set proc on WS?
    Bump, perhaps Raen can help me out here.

  16. #2116
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    Do Elemental Gorgets/Belts benefit magical ws? (Worth keeping/using?)

  17. #2117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    I'll probably use something very similar to this then, thoughts? http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/39000

    Subbed out blitz for hoard, and atheling for lancer's pelerine to keep 5 hit.

    Edit: I ask a lot of questions. Can drg set proc on WS?
    Keep Atheling and use Blitz + Rose. Don't be lazy. DRG set cannot proc on WS (Current standing).

  18. #2118
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    Does TH effect obtaining key items from NM ? Talking about clear abyssite turning to colorful.

  19. #2119
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    Quote Originally Posted by wipers View Post
    Does TH effect obtaining key items from NM ? Talking about clear abyssite turning to colorful.
    Nope, it's all random number generator.

  20. #2120
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider123 View Post
    Do Elemental Gorgets/Belts benefit magical ws? (Worth keeping/using?)
    Yes, and usually worth using.

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