Random Question Thread XXI: You're Not My Random Question Thread Dad

[ssjjfar]

Okay, I did the dagger NM trials for empheral back when they first were released and still 75 cap, now I"m doing gun trials, there were periods of times when I took breaks off from game and wasn't paying attention, either way, when did they change Garliage Citadel?

Hovering Hotpot isn't where he used to be(now behind banishing gates -.-), and Serket area is surrounded by new(to me) mobs that are T and VT @90. What other areas did they change and add higher level mobs at? And anyone remember which version update this was so I can go read those notes in morning.

[msthief]

Okay, I did the dagger NM trials for empheral back when they first were released and still 75 cap, now I"m doing gun trials, there were periods of times when I took breaks off from game and wasn't paying attention, either way, when did they change Garliage Citadel?

Hovering Hotpot isn't where he used to be(now behind banishing gates -.-), and Serket area is surrounded by new(to me) mobs that are T and VT @90. What other areas did they change and add higher level mobs at? And anyone remember which version update this was so I can go read those notes in morning.

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[nikia]

If I wanted to kill mobs Fell Cleave Style but solo would RDM with AE be the best way to go? Any input would be wonderful, such as gear, atmas, /subjob, etc. thank you.

[Radec]

If I wanted to kill mobs Fell Cleave Style but solo would RDM with AE be the best way to go? Any input would be wonderful, such as gear, atmas, /subjob, etc. thank you.

Depends what jobs you have available, RDM is a solid choice though. BLU is the most often suggested, and will do very well. Post what you have.

Martial Knife/<PDT in every other slot, if no PDT available, melee gear>

Goal is to reduce every hit taken to 1-2 damage, not 0, so you gain TP very quickly. Adjust total PDT as required.

Aeolian you can treat as any wind nuke, INT and MAB in any slot. DEX if no INT MAB option.

Atma:
Gales
Ultimate(or Hell's Guardian),
Smiting Blow (if using some non-martial knife option) or (the other of Ultimate/Hells, if available) or ... they're pretty minor increases otherwise. Consider Mounted Champion, not to increase AE damage but keep you alive w/out effort, and further reduce damage taken. RR, Minikin, Beyond, or Smiting Blow even w/ Martial Knife are all ok 3rd atma.

[Churchill]

Ok so, I just exp'd my rng to 90, playing around with jishnu's, I can't help but feel that I may be doing something wrong.

My archery is still about 40~50 levels below cap, how big of an impact is it actually having on my damage?

My current setup for Jishnu: (obviously not optimal, first time even using ranger since the level cap)
Yata crit dmg+5 | yata crit dmg+6
Maat's cap | Light gorget | Pixie | Volley
Loki's | AF3+1 | Rajas | Thunder
Cavaros | Light belt | Byakko's crit dmg+4% | Lithe

I was using Demon arrows (meh) and used both red and yellow curry. (It's exp :/ was using the reds just to see how far I could push the ws)

Obviously missing 3 dex from using volley, and not really sure what to do with hands, missing 4 dex from rings, but that's about it..? I was using RR/GH/Sea Daughter, since it was exp and the regain from sea daughter helped a ton. I averaged around 3k, sometimes dipping into 2k, and maxing around 4.5k. This seems really off from what I heard about this WS, I even recall someone claiming 13k inside abyssea?

Also, with Gandiva's 490 delay, how much STP do I need for x-hit builds? Since I don't plan on using Sea Daughter in a real event (if I ever even get to use my ranger :< Also-- what atma would I actually use on the 3rd slot?) or for outside abyssea.

Thanks

I would say that your WS gear is missing a ton of STR, and you need to stop just stacking DEX because it's an fTP modifier.

[Valisk]

Has anyone done hadhayosh at 90? I've done him once and that was back at 85 - I'm curious if a Nin + Whm could do it (basically, if I could live through meteor). Whm has all applicable atma and an HP above 2100.

Did him last night. Yea, NIN + WHM seems feasible. Just make sure the WHM stands 30 yalms away under 25% to avoid meteor and run in when cures are needed. Might want a 3rd to dispel Flame Armor/Accursed Armor. An ill-timed Thunderbolt > Meteor can be troublesome though.

[Julian]

I was fighting dolls in altepa.

And @Re: STR, I heard that stacking dex does a lot more than adding str does, especially since I already have like 150+ str just from being in abyssea, so my fstr should be capped? (I'm not really big on formulas so I could be wrong, any math person feel free to correct me) I can try though, I guess. Gonna see if I can get another party today so I can try to finish skilling my archery.

[Amok]

Did him last night. Yea, NIN + WHM seems feasible. Just make sure the WHM stands 30 yalms away under 25% to avoid meteor and run in when cures are needed. Might want a 3rd to dispel Flame Armor/Accursed Armor. An ill-timed Thunderbolt > Meteor can be troublesome though.

I can't imagine a WHM dying to meteor (maybe taru), but there's ways of dealing with that. It was eitehr 10% or 15% when it casts the first one (after 2hr animation). Then it can cast it again, but I don't know what the exact conditions are as I've seen it do it once, twice and thrice ("Thriiiiice!") before death in different fights. It's not HP% and I doubt it's a set time between casts. It could be a TP ability disguised as a magic spell, which would explain why the frequency is random. Either way, I'd recommend having the WHM stay close to cure through Amnesiac Blast and Ecliptic Meteor as the only real risk of dying is to get hit by meteor after either of those. Done it as NIN+RDM and RDM+THF. Atma of a Future Fabulous helps.

[Churchill]

Someone with Gandiva would have to chime for 3rd Atma, off the top of my head I'd try VV/Smiting Blow/Griffin Claw, but I also don't know what 200%fTP mod is so Smiting Blow might not be worth it. Griffin requires you use a Vulcan's Staff.

You're losing out on 50RACC/RATK from not having your bow capped, that's hurting you some, but I was doing 2.8-3.3 Sidewinders on Dolls with my bow at 300 without food/zerk/stalwarts, so I'm assuming that this shouldn't be impacting you that greatly.

I'd swap Ire Torque/+1 for neck, +2 your hands, Aias Bonnet/Moogle hat (for slight improvement), and someone else can chime in for Cavaros - with RNG lack of RATK pieces is that really better than the 20RATK piece?

With that Atma setup you're rocking 90% Critdmg / 55% crithit, so I may be wrong but with only 5STR in your WS set and between 140-150STR due to Cruor, I don't think that caps your STR

[Byrthnoth]

Depends what jobs you have available, RDM is a solid choice though. BLU is the most often suggested, and will do very well. Post what you have.

Martial Knife/<PDT in every other slot, if no PDT available, melee gear>

Goal is to reduce every hit taken to 1-2 damage, not 0, so you gain TP very quickly. Adjust total PDT as required.

Aeolian you can treat as any wind nuke, INT and MAB in any slot. DEX if no INT MAB option.

Atma:
Gales
Ultimate(or Hell's Guardian),
Smiting Blow (if using some non-martial knife option) or (the other of Ultimate/Hells, if available) or ... they're pretty minor increases otherwise. Consider Mounted Champion, not to increase AE damage but keep you alive w/out effort, and further reduce damage taken. RR, Minikin, Beyond, or Smiting Blow even w/ Martial Knife are all ok 3rd atma.

To add to this, sub PLD and use a buckler type shield if you can. You'll get some skillups and you'll get TP even faster.

[Glamthing]

You are much better off Burning it with Abyssea, then skilling with cheapest arrows you can buy. You will spend far more solo lvling and get burnt out that way. Also if you dont pay for FC burn the cruor you earn can be used for gil if you need. Also the stats and atmas you get in Aby will help balance out some skill lose, not all but some. Also to be honest in most pick up groups for 75+ few are geared well anyway so sub par dmg isnt something people complain alot about.

yeah, I'm well set for aby in terms of atma and the like (75+ gear would be an issue as my end-game stuff is fairly job-specific), this would be my 6th 90. But TBH the grind doesn't bother me, my main job is beast and I'm a farming machine, plus I make my own ammo, at least to level 75. Shehei costs me a fortune tho'. I definately don't need to pay for an FC burn (or leeching in a dominion ops pt) if I wish. I'm just kind of a skill whore and XP is so fast now outside as is skill that I'm capping my archery 1/3-1/2 into each level (with XP ring). I ran into an issue when I leeched pup (for only 63-73) where it took me almost 2 months of playtime to get my pup H2H capped (and I still don't have all 4 autos capped, since I'm needed brd, dnc or bst in aby more often); I don't want to have to repeat that, especially with how relatively unpopular rng is outside specific fights. But I've always liked standing off and making pincushions in videogames.

[Ksandra]

couple questions on fellow npcs. is there a command you can do to check how much mp they have left? my npc is lvl 50, if I bring her out when I'm like lvl 12, is she lvl 50 still or turns to lvl 12?

[Mudge]

Are there any relic weapons these days that are still considered worth doing? Or do most of the empyrean weapons now outshine the old dynamis relics?

[Byrthnoth]

Relic vs. Empyrean is determined on a case-by-case basis, and tends to vary based on what situation you're in. There are several cases of clear winners/losers though.

As far as NPC MP, I've never found any way to tell what it is beyond the vague clues that they give. If I was a betting man, I'd bet that they give the first MP message when they're ~<25% remaining. I'm pretty sure your NPC's stats are capped to your level, but I'm not sure they did a perfect job of it (like for level correction).

[NotGreyheim]

Still possible to learn blue magic from campaign mobs as long as there's no battle going on? Trying to learn Frenetic Rip, and supposedly it's easier to break the horns with Fiendish Leechkeepers. On that note, what's a good place to farm them solo (where I won't get my shit pushed in by surrounding mobs at 75(lolgimp))?

[Nightfyre]

Cemetery outside Halzham has 3 imps in the mid-60s and no aggro aside from Skeles from 20-4.

[NotGreyheim]

Yeah, I was there for an hour this morning and didn't manage to break the horn once (using vorpal blade and sickle slash mainly for the crits). That plus the fact that we haven't had the AC for almost a week now makes it a pain in the ass to try and farm there :/ Thanks though, I appreciate the input.

edit: farming in Beaucedine_S atm. 2/2 on horn breaks, haven't learned it yet though. Still, progress!

[Mudge]

Relic vs. Empyrean is determined on a case-by-case basis, and tends to vary based on what situation you're in. There are several cases of clear winners/losers though.

Alright, thanks. I suppose more specifically I am asking about Spharai vs. Verethragna. I suspect Victory Smite massively outshines Final Heaven, but I am having trouble finding info on Final Heaven. Is there a clear winner in hand-to-hand, both inside and outside abyssea?

[TheDirtyHobo]

Vereth for offensive pure DD MNK, Spharai for playing defensive on something you need to counter more.

[Dowzer]

If I wanted to kill mobs Fell Cleave Style but solo would RDM with AE be the best way to go? Any input would be wonderful, such as gear, atmas, /subjob, etc. thank you.

Radec was spot on about atmas.

With /sam it takes me 3 edges to kill a train. Sekkanoki and Meditate make it very quick. If you can try it, /pld might be more useful all around.

I generally stick to weak attacking mobs. I never have problems with mandies but others, like coeurls, hit pretty hard. Using Gales/Smite/Ulti for full dmg.

I've been able to do bats, crabs and chigoes, but only with MC. For those that do it completely solo, which mobs do you target in which zones?