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    Whats Early Bird Catches the Wyrm like at 90, and what are the lowest numbers you would wanna take into it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerodok View Post
    Basic damaging: Twilight Knife / Triplus Dagger

    Depending on what you're doing/soloing/whatever throw in an offhand evasion Kila with Twilight as main, pending you are capped in gear evasion; if not, two evasion Kilas.
    STR or DEX Kila is going to beat Twilight. The higher damage /alone/ almost outweighs 3% quadruple attack (only a 3.87% increase in swings/round vs a 3.33% base damage increase at capped fSTR).

    And then you have 24-25 attack or accuracy, which is going to kick the crap out of it.

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    Is the mdt cap increase universal? Or does it only apply to aegis being able to break it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haborym View Post
    Whats Early Bird Catches the Wyrm like at 90, and what are the lowest numbers you would wanna take into it?
    I do it with empy MNK empy RNG WHM BRD. I could practically solo it if it didn't have an air form, but that's where RNG comess in. Bar + carolx2 for his air attacks and its almost negated. You don't even need resist gear if the WHM is well geared for barspells. BLM could replace RNG or anything that can hit his air form would do ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    STR or DEX Kila is going to beat Twilight. The higher damage /alone/ almost outweighs 3% quadruple attack (only a 3.87% increase in swings/round vs a 3.33% base damage increase at capped fSTR).

    And then you have 24-25 attack or accuracy, which is going to kick the crap out of it.
    I'm a bit reluctant to agree with how easily the TP drain on Twilight is shirked off. I don't have too many daggers for THF so I end up using Twilight quite a bit. 6 TP drain procs are pretty awesome. Would be interesting to maybe parse it out and see how much it actually amounts to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehn View Post
    Is the mdt cap increase universal? Or does it only apply to aegis being able to break it?
    Aegis only. Also, thanks for bcnm info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haborym View Post
    Whats Early Bird Catches the Wyrm like at 90, and what are the lowest numbers you would wanna take into it?
    It's a joke. WHM, Tank, and Nuke (SCH or BLM). If you're unsure, just add another nuke.

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    Considering I've done Thunder/Ice/Fire/Cure Staves, Empy (quit halfway) and MAB gun, Empy OA4 and Eva Swords (and will probably get around to doing the DA sword eventually)... The thought of doing more Magian weapons doesn't appeal to my already stretched boredom threshold, especially when the options are Fire path (wut no weather?) and Lightning path (hi2u Qutrubs and Golems)... BUT IF NEEDS MUST!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    It's a joke. WHM, Tank, and Nuke (SCH or BLM). If you're unsure, just add another nuke.
    NIN BLM WHM with some difficulties.

    Blink tank is a must because it can spam terror back to back and his regain is VERY potent (it can use 2 TP moves while NIN is terrorized w/o any other source of TP).

    BLM hume also has some problems to take it solo from 66% to 33%, but with me doing wheel on top of nukes it was easy.

    Barfira + some ok fire set is very useful.

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    random windower question:

    in win7, whenever i launch the game, it's fucking with the global gamma settings for my laptop's display. everything gets way, way brighter, basic web pages look washed out and overly bright. how the hell do i prevent this from happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    NIN BLM WHM with some difficulties.

    Blink tank is a must because it can spam terror back to back and his regain is VERY potent (it can use 2 TP moves while NIN is terrorized w/o any other source of TP).

    BLM hume also has some problems to take it solo from 66% to 33%, but with me doing wheel on top of nukes it was easy.

    Barfira + some ok fire set is very useful.
    Blink tank definitely isn't a must. We went in with a SAM/WAR and did fine. The majority of our damage came from nukes (Fudo > Fudo > MB > Flight @~65%HP). The rest of the fight was a joke from there as well (More fun actually since you can spam nukes). SCH might be the better option, but I had filters, so I can't tell how much DMG our BLM did).

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    I can imagine RNG/NIN + WHM possibly duoing, RNG WHM BRD should be an easy trio.

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    Yeah you definitely don't need blink tanks for wyrm. If i'm remembering correctly we used to use drk/sam as the only main tank at 75 and it was a joke even then.

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    I meant blink tank because you will run out on MP curing. SAM + BLM maybe was easy because of fudo fudo and MB is very potent to make flight time pretty non exist.
    I have no idea tho how you wont run on MP when it hits for 300 and it can terror back to back (it did 6/7 Terror today on me and I maybe did 6 att rounds for like 3+ min)
    I can imagine with SAM melee it will TP move every 10 sec so with bad luck you can be terrored for 80% of the fight.
    when it fly it likes to spam wing which do like 400+ damage I think.
    Btw SAM is kinda blink tank anyway with seigan and decent evasion.

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    We did 5 runs without any problems and the only TP issue we had was when we brought a NIN to melee the mob. Terror is a bitch, but like I said, that's why most damage comes from nukes. I should also say that I'm cautious to say one BLM is enough since I don't know what his BLMs look like (Not that our BLM was that great, but he's geared decently). Two nukes secures the win quite comfortably. Also, Hasso.

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    Now that the crit dmg+ bonus goes to 100% whats the best atma sets for nin and war. I have kannagi on nin and am currently working on ukon for war if that makes any differences.

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    Not sure if this is the right place, but isn't there a command to unload/re-load your init.txt in windower? I can't recall it, been too long. And my google-fu and browsing of windower site not turning up anything.

    Nvm: Orz, someone finally remembered. Never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    I can imagine RNG/NIN + WHM possibly duoing, RNG WHM BRD should be an easy trio.
    I really preferred your old avatar to this one.

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    D: I like how retarded it is

    Also, it should be noted that there is a remarkable difference in strength between 100% > ??% (maybe 50) and ??% > 0% Wyrm. It's so weak before this point that a WHM could honestly melee it down without any trouble. So I recommend not nuking at all until it flies. Just save your MP.

    Maybe NIN/DNC + BLM/WHM could also duo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemora View Post
    The thought of doing more Magian weapons doesn't appeal to my already stretched boredom threshold, especially when the options are Fire path (wut no weather?) and Lightning path (hi2u Qutrubs and Golems)... BUT IF NEEDS MUST!
    I haven't made a fire one but the thunder one isnt too terrible. Now I know about that weather forecast site I'd spend even less time waiting around for weather.

    Plantoids - mandys in boyahda
    Arcana - ro'maeve
    Qutrubs - dvucca if weather is frequent else bog bodys on day
    Lizards - did some in la vaule with weather and finished off in teriggan
    Golems - ulegeurand conflux 7
    Beasts - boyahda bunnys

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