Random Question Thread XXI: You're Not My Random Question Thread Dad

[Koyangi]

Perhaps a quick spreadsheet exists that has it all compiled or someone here can create a quick one.

Certain af3+2 set bonuses always work (minimum of 2 equipped) and they are strengthened by more of them, and others have a low chance to proc and chance increases with more pieces equipped.

Example, is RDM and BRD, with a minimum of 2 pieces equipped, the Enhancing magic unto others and the songs cast will gain their benefit, having more just means longer duration/more stat boosts.

What other sets work like the RDM and BRD set, and which 1's are just low proc rate to occur.

[Demonofhunger]

Anyone else locked out of SE's forums because they can't select a character?

I log in, it directs to the Edit Character screen, and then I can't make the Save Changes button work. I hit it and it refreshes. Basically I'm stuck on the Edit Character page because the page says that selecting a main character is mandatory to post to the forum.

I contacted SE and apparently they think I'm too stupid to realize that I should log in.

[Cymmina]

Perhaps a quick spreadsheet exists that has it all compiled or someone here can create a quick one.

Certain af3+2 set bonuses always work (minimum of 2 equipped) and they are strengthened by more of them, and others have a low chance to proc and chance increases with more pieces equipped.

Example, is RDM and BRD, with a minimum of 2 pieces equipped, the Enhancing magic unto others and the songs cast will gain their benefit, having more just means longer duration/more stat boosts.

What other sets work like the RDM and BRD set, and which 1's are just low proc rate to occur.

Looking through all of the sets, RDM and BRD are the only ones like that.

[Draylo]

We went with NIN WAR WHM BLM BRD THF(2nd acct). But you can definitely trim a lot off that setup.

Our bard had to bail before we started. WAR did little to nothing, we spent the vast majority of time holding it with NIN and trying to build TH. When we did begin to start killing it, we found WAR costing too much MP for the refresh we were getting (because i subbed blm like a dork). BLM you can keep/swap/cut.

NIN THF WHM BRD would be easymode.

Was the bard necessary, or even the Ninja? Could THF THF RDM (or would whm be preferable for some reason) handle it fine?

[Rez]

While those will work for 5-hit builds, they're going to kill your WS set; you won't be able to switch out more than a couple of pieces to maintain the 5-hit.

If you can't get your hands on AF3+2 head and tactical mantle for whatever reason, you'd probably be better off with a six-hit and a real WS build.

As to whether or not you want to use a 6 or 5 hit, that I leave up to the individual.

When using a true 5 hit, if you're geared properly, you will not have to:
1. Drop Haste.
2. Use some bullshit food.
3. 'Kill' your WS build.

The only sacrifice, and it is a small one, you would make from switching to a WS set is the body, a loss of 5 Str and 2 Attack in order to maintain a true 5 hit. I've culled this from a previous post you stated using a Byrnie +1 (vs. Unkai +2). If this 'kills' your Fudo, there's something else causing a greater problem.

For reference:

Masamune/Rose strap/ . / White tathlum
Zelus tiara/Unkai Nodowa/Brutal earring/Moonshade earring (Att/Regain)
Unkai domaru +2/Dusk gloves +1/Hoard ring/Rajas ring
Tactical mantle/Bullwhip belt/Unkai Haidate +2/Ace's leggings

The above set gives 26 % haste, 82 store TP and 1/t auto regain with weapon drawn, amongst others. I made the basic assumption that it will take 6s or more under normal circumstances between WS rounds (2 regain tics).

Your base TP hit would be 20.2(x4) + whatever Moonshade gives (at least 2). At minimum this leaves 80.8 + Moonshade after four hits. 82.8 total. Requiring 17.2 TP from your WS hit, assuming non Da/TA etc that requires 55 STp on your WS build.

Merits, Rose, Brutal and Rajas give you 45, needing 10 more. This assumes that the Moonshade never tics more Or less than twice per 'attack phase' (1xws + 4xhits, or 5xhits). You can't change grips either way, and Brutal Rajas are staple WS pieces on any build, leaving the body for all 10 STp, and you can change w/e you want for the other pieces, not one of them needs to have STp.

If you want to be exact, you would have to leave the Moonshade and Domaru+2 on full-time. Compared to a Centaurus you keep on about, with a Byrnie +1 this is a 5 Str and ~ 8 attack loss on your WS build.

Vs tp building using a kabuto +2 and Centaurus, and dropping ~2% haste permanently?






Yes I had to type this shit out quickly to stop my phone browser timing out, formatting sucks.

[Clash Perez]

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If you do use Moonshade's Regain, then it does come down to Byrnie +1 (or Twilight depending on buffs/target) vs. Domaru+2 for WS.

Personally I don't, so I guess we'll differ there. Without Moonshade's regain, making up that missing 2 TP in the phase requires much more sacrifice.

[Mercilessturtle]

Using the earring for regain instead of tp bonus is a fairly significant sacrifice all on its own.

[cdgreg]

In regards to abys-mis, murex give 128 azure, jala gives 128 amber, anything give 128 pearl?

[Colenzo]

In regards to abys-mis, murex give 128 azure, jala gives 128 amber, anything give 128 pearl?

Generally regardless of what zone you're in you wont get enhanced pearl lights off of something unless you're getting grello/blue/red on them.

[Radec]

Anyone else locked out of SE's forums because they can't select a character?

I log in, it directs to the Edit Character screen, and then I can't make the Save Changes button work. I hit it and it refreshes. Basically I'm stuck on the Edit Character page because the page says that selecting a main character is mandatory to post to the forum.

I contacted SE and apparently they think I'm too stupid to realize that I should log in.

Just to be sure: It offers a list of characters, you hit the star on one of your characters, then it moves it above the ------------ bar and you can select jobs, then save. Biggest thing, remember to hit the star, because you can highlight a character and select jobs before doing that.

Best bet on pearl is T1 VNM, block w/ a colorful and hope noone is camping the T1's. Only 10 each but 100% and can find em in clusters

[solanis]

I'm curious about trying out rng. what's the best non-magian weapon for 90? I'd like to play around with the job before I invest a weekend into getting an empyrean for it.

[Atoreis]

Is Dragua even spike flail? I fought it once for over 20 min (PLD/rdm only damage) at her tail and didn't flailed once. She was using all TP moves beside roar and terror (she even used breath).

EDIT: Hmmm, when I think about it ... I think she even used roar just no terror.

[Neisan]

I'm curious about trying out rng. what's the best non-magian weapon for 90? I'd like to play around with the job before I invest a weekend into getting an empyrean for it.

Vision/Percept Bow, haven't seen any testing on the crit damage on Percept.

[Flic]

Is Dragua even spike flail? I fought it once for over 20 min (PLD/rdm only damage) at her tail and didn't flailed once. She was using all TP moves beside roar and terror (she even used breath).

EDIT: Hmmm, when I think about it ... I think she even used roar just no terror.

Dosn't flail

[Rez]

Using the earring for regain instead of tp bonus is a fairly significant sacrifice all on its own.

Using Sam instead of a real DD is a fairly significant sacrifice




This wasn't the be-all end-all, merely to illustrate that you don't have to make the haste/food/Massive WS loss if you don't want to. The TP loss from bonus +25 isn't huge for high FTP WS anyway. This is especially the case if you consider Nyosan has stated more than once previously to use Centaurus on both TP and WS ignoring the existence of Moonshade as a possibility. There was no bonus there at all.

There are choices, such as waiting til the update to see how much the next STp trait turns out to be, and most of them involve sacrifice either way.

[Demonofhunger]

Just to be sure: It offers a list of characters, you hit the star on one of your characters, then it moves it above the ------------ bar and you can select jobs, then save. Biggest thing, remember to hit the star, because you can highlight a character and select jobs before doing that.

It was the star. I only have one character, so I was selecting jobs and failing because I didn't realize I needed to select the one character I have or that the star would do that for me. Honestly, I didn't even notice the empty star spot.

Thanks!

[Pendulum]

Was the bard necessary, or even the Ninja? Could THF THF RDM (or would whm be preferable for some reason) handle it fine?

Well the bard didnt even use their salt before having to go so they weren't needed.

THF THF RDM would be fine imo, just make sure you are on the ball for removing curse/poison from nerve gas.

[TheDirtyHobo]

The TP loss from bonus +25 isn't huge for high FTP WS anyway.

Fudo has a 1 ftp per 100tp spread at all 3 levels, so 25 TP bonus is equal to .25 ftp. To put that in perspective, that is a bigger bonus than ele gorget and belt combined on a single earring slot. It's a 6.85% increase at 100 TP without goret/belt, 6.49% increase with gorget/belt.

I don't know which one is ultimately better, per se, but saying ~6.5% damage loss isn't huge just seems silly.

Edit: And a question of my own, does anyone know how many ffxiah points getting and Emp is worth?

[Saiken]

Seen some pretty poor Blade:hi numbers outside abyssea.Was there a discussion about keeping a ddex build for a better crit rate or was i seeing things? Getting a tobi this weekend n play around with it just wondering what i should have setup for inside/outside. thanks for any replies.

[Manf]

Was the bard necessary, or even the Ninja? Could THF THF RDM (or would whm be preferable for some reason) handle it fine?

I answered this in this thread earlier, but THF+WHM is an easy duo. Pretty sure I was evasion capped (or it was at least high) in TP gear. The only danger is if trembling dispels shell (which makes it do ~900 damage) and it is able to take a melee swing at you. It is possible to die to that combo, as I had that happen once. However, I held it fine for 5min while weakness wore. It doesn't have regain.