Random Question Thread XXI: You're Not My Random Question Thread Dad

**cdgreg** · 2011-07-07 22:07

Originally Posted by Rehn

Is mdt still capped at 50% for non-aegis folks? Or has update allowed you to surpass it? Or is it only applicable to aegis owners?

Only applicable to Aegis owners afaik.

**Nightfyre** · 2011-07-07 22:25

MDT still caps at 50% aside from Aegis.

Originally Posted by arus2001

Speaking of PLD, I'm looking to throw together some PDT/MDT sets. I know, lolPLD, but I've also been chipping away at Almace for my BLU and RDM, so only seemed natural. Just poking around, I've come up with the following:

PDT set
Dark Ring (6%)
(r.ear)
Versa Celata +1 (3%)
Twilight Torque (5%)
Grim Cuirass (5%)
Melaco Mittens (3%)
Metallion Mantle (4%)
Nierenschutz (3%)
Creed Cuisses +1 (3%)
Askar Gambieras (2%)
(r.ear)
Dark Ring (6%)

Total: 40%
Rings I still need to actually get, and ideally they'd also be 6% for the following MDT set. I know boots could go up to 3% with other options, but trying to preserve some inventory and Askar doubles in MDT set, too. Hard to just an ear slot for 1%, but might go for Colossus's. Ein isn't an option at the moment for Valhalla Helm. Either way, if I wanted to make a PDT sword, I'd exceed 50 with the above. Obviously I could cut corners using a Terra's Staff for whatever reason. Just wondering if there's something else I'm missing or just going about this all wrong.

Get Jingang Greaves, seeing as you're way overcapped on MDT in that kit. AF3+2 body has up to 10%? -DT depending on hate. Can get -2% earrings from Scattered Shells, Scattered Mind in Abyssea - Vunkerl. +2 legs obviously. You can actually hit 52% without Valhalla Helm or a PDT sword iirc.

Oh, Oneiros Barbut also has 5% PDT. So you can actually go to 54% np, drop the earrings if you have enough hate to use AF3 body or keep them in if you're rocking Grim.

MDT: Rings will be ~8-12%, Torque 5%, waist 3%. That leaves 3-7% to cover with other gear, then MDB from there. Fill it based on what's available to you. Wlegs can be augmented with MDB, for what it's worth.

**cdgreg** · 2011-07-07 22:29

What is the minimum B. haidate augment(s) where you would begin using it to WS Blade:Hi over ambusher's hose in abyssea?

**Nightfyre** · 2011-07-07 22:47

5 AGI/4% critdmg wasn't enough to put them ahead last I checked, even on relatively evasive Heroes content where the 15 DEX would at least have some sort of impact.

**Shiyo** · 2011-07-07 23:23

Is there any reason to get a gandiva over an armageddon for a RNG?

**Gorki** · 2011-07-07 23:27

Um, why can I d.box deliver R/EX items?

Seem to be abyssea drops?
Shaolin Cape on my mule without abyssea

**NynJa** · 2011-07-07 23:29

COR seems to have access to more mab gear, as well as fireshot. Hopefully SE will fix Dead Aim to make it work on WS as well...hopefully.

**Haborym** · 2011-07-07 23:31

How could I get a combination of autoexec and spellcast to switch my tp neck when shadows drop from Rancor to Iga Erimaki, but then switch back as soon as shadows are back up?

Bumping this. Any help would be awesome.

**Nightfyre** · 2011-07-07 23:38

Autoexec:

Code:

<register event="gainbuff_Copy*" silent="true">input /ma "Tornado" &lt;t&gt;</register>
   <register event="losebuff_Copy*" silent="true">input /ma "Tornado" &lt;t&gt;</register>

Spellcast:

Code:

<if spell="Tornado">
			<if buffactive="Copy*">
				<var cmd="set DDNeck Rancor Collar" />
			</if>
			<else>
				<var cmd="set DDNeck Iga Erimaki" />
			</else>
		</if>

From there, something like:

Code:

<if spell="trigger spells">
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="precast" set="$Melee" />
			</if>
			<cancelspell />
			<return />
		</if>

**Haborym** · 2011-07-07 23:40

Thank you.

**dasva** · 2011-07-07 23:42

Originally Posted by Shiyo

Is there any reason to get a gandiva over an armageddon for a RNG?

Every time you are on rng and not brewing. I love my bedlam and my arma and wildfire but it really doesn't compare with jishnu's.

**dasva** · 2011-07-07 23:44

Originally Posted by Gorki

Um, why can I d.box deliver R/EX items?

Seem to be abyssea drops?
Shaolin Cape on my mule without abyssea

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/239

**dasva** · 2011-07-07 23:45

Originally Posted by NynJa

COR seems to have access to more mab gear, as well as fireshot. Hopefully SE will fix Dead Aim to make it work on WS as well...hopefully.

Can magical ws even crit?

**Julian** · 2011-07-07 23:49

Gandiva - Easily the strongest bow for RNG. In abyssea, lets you use critical hit abyssites to improve your dot, as well as ws damage. Outside, you'll probably be constantly getting yourself killed with it.

Armageddon - Best brew ws in the game, probably the top gun for COR in the game. For RNG, it's a little bit lackluster in abyssea. If you want your WS to actually do good damage, you have to use Fire+/MAB atmas, which don't help your dot at all, and it still ends up being weaker than jishnu's. Outside abyssea, it's a decent weapon, damage should be decent, and ws is lower hate, but I'm not sure if it will outperform Slug on RNG, as I haven't bothered testing it yet. Annihilator is most likely a much better choice if you want to go that way. For COR, though, as I said, it's great, fire shot and vulcan's staff ftw.

edit: Dead aim doesn't work on WS? Damn, hm, well, I don't think knowing that will be effecting my WS set for Jishnu's, anyway.

Just a few Abyssea #'s I remember off the top of my head:

Jishnu: 3~5k, red/yellow curry buns, RR/GH/Sea Daughter, 5~8k with minuets, on the exp dolls, haven't gotten to play with it much on other stuff, but #s shouldn't be too different.
Wildfire: Constant 3.5k, Smoldering Sky/Ultimate/Sea Daughter on RNG, 5k+ on COR when also /rdm + blm roll

**Shiyo** · 2011-07-07 23:56

So you shouldn't ever get a gandiva on RNG? Since RNG has no use in abyssea, and you'll kill yourself 24/7 on the best thing you want rngs for outside(vwnms)?

**Haborym** · 2011-07-07 23:57

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Autoexec:

Code:

<register event="gainbuff_Copy*" silent="true">input /ma "Tornado" &lt;t&gt;</register>
   <register event="losebuff_Copy*" silent="true">input /ma "Tornado" &lt;t&gt;</register>

Spellcast:

Code:

<if spell="Tornado">
			<if buffactive="Copy*">
				<var cmd="set DDNeck Rancor Collar" />
			</if>
			<else>
				<var cmd="set DDNeck Iga Erimaki" />
			</else>
		</if>

From there, something like:

Code:

<if spell="trigger spells">
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="precast" set="$Melee" />
			</if>
			<cancelspell />
			<return />
		</if>

Worked perfect, thanks again.

**Julian** · 2011-07-07 23:58

If you're going to go that far, why bother with RNG at all, since RNG isn't an optimal dd job for.. anything really. Get an Ukon and be forever a warrior.

**Shiyo** · 2011-07-08 00:00

My question was more "is gandiva worth getting at all, or is it completely useless?".

**Julian** · 2011-07-08 00:02

If you want to put out the biggest numbers possible on ranger, then yes, it is.

**Shiyo** · 2011-07-08 00:03

So in real game situations it's not worth the time/effort to get, and it's just a luxury/fun item?

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