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  1. #381
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    What are pups and drgs doing for G1 + G2 Merits these days

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    Jump/High Jump
    5Angon/3-4Empathy/1-2 DB

    Empathy/DB varies on how you're utilizing Spirit link.

  3. #383
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    Does normal DL need to be chainstunned anymore or can an Empyrean NIN+WAR+MNK with WHM BLM BRD support take it down?

  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Jump/High Jump
    5Angon/3-4Empathy/1-2 DB

    Empathy/DB varies on how you're utilizing Spirit link.
    I went 5/5 DB, being able to do a huge cure was more useful to me than being able to give my wyvern a buff every once in a while.

    I used to like to copy shell to my wyvern to try to keep it alive with Empathy, but unless you have at least 3+ in it, it's hard to make sure it gets that without pissing off your WHM, and the damn things are too squishy even with it.

  5. #385
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    More emphasis was on DB the last time I gave advice, but mercilessturtle seemed to take a huge issue with it, so I gave both sides.

  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    What are pups and drgs doing for G1 + G2 Merits these days
    PUP I went with Auto Melee an Magic +5

    Vent and Role Reversal +1
    Fine-Tuning +3
    Optimization +5

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    Any way to see VNM's now? (allseeingeye doesn't work anymore)

  8. #388
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    I heard Apnea has a program if you pay.

  9. #389
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    Was coming in to ask that exact same question myself. Been seeing a few people consistently popping first time without resting for hints. Certainly too frequently for it to be luck.

  10. #390
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    I don't know about taking huge issue, I just don't get what people are doing where DB is anything other than a "hooray I get to cast 1 fewer HB trigger spell per 5 minutes". I've never once found myself thinking "man I wish I had DB merits". Just getting haste onto your wyvern once in a while adds more damage than skipping a HB trigger or blowing DB on an offensive breath. Unless you are in whatever position these deep breathing fans are in where it is somehow useful, then maxing jump, high jump, angon and empathy is the way to go.

    For pup: melee/magic, 5 optimization, then put a point in vent/RR and 3 in fine tuning. If you find you aren't using either vent or RR, then drop that point and stick it in fine tuning instead.

  11. #391
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercilessturtle View Post
    I don't know about taking huge issue, I just don't get what people are doing where DB is anything other than a "hooray I get to cast 1 fewer HB trigger spell per 5 minutes". I've never once found myself thinking "man I wish I had DB merits". Just getting haste onto your wyvern once in a while adds more damage than skipping a HB trigger or blowing DB on an offensive breath. Unless you are in whatever position these deep breathing fans are in where it is somehow useful, then maxing jump, high jump, angon and empathy is the way to go.

    For pup: melee/magic, 5 optimization, then put a point in vent/RR and 3 in fine tuning. If you find you aren't using either vent or RR, then drop that point and stick it in fine tuning instead.
    Seems like 1 point in DB for zergs is worthwhile? And still seems like it'd be nice and useable plenty of other times. Putting 5 points in Empathy isn't going to increase your ability to keep haste on your wyvern vs 3-4 points for sure though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercilessturtle View Post
    I don't know about taking huge issue, I just don't get what people are doing where DB is anything other than a "hooray I get to cast 1 fewer HB trigger spell per 5 minutes". I've never once found myself thinking "man I wish I had DB merits". Just getting haste onto your wyvern once in a while adds more damage than skipping a HB trigger or blowing DB on an offensive breath. Unless you are in whatever position these deep breathing fans are in where it is somehow useful, then maxing jump, high jump, angon and empathy is the way to go.
    The thing I'm doing where DB is more useful than "casting 1 fewer HB trigger spell" is soloing /SAM which is kills substantially faster, and having 5/5 DB is effectively ~20% cure potency at that point.

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    I'm no DRG, so I could be wrong, but don't you not get healing breaths at all when /sam or any other offensive wyvern subjob?

  14. #394
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    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Restoring_Breath

    Can use HBs with any subjob with this JA.

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    1 point could be ok if you go to zerg something on drg, at least it gets something out of your wyvern before it dies. As to soloing on /sam, I dunno what you are soloing like that but that sounds incredibly situational, far too much so for recommending 5 DB in general. You need to be soloing something wussy enough for /sam to stay alive solo, but strong enough that getting a big heal every 5 minutes is actually needed in order to prevent stopping and waiting on restoring breath. Feel free to take DB if that is the case for you, but I doubt it is the general case for most people.

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    Which NMs, if any, that drop fiendish tomes in windurst, would be soloable by a DNC that has decent gear (no emp, good EVA set, good haste set)?

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    Will Tail tanking Isgebind will lock it from using any moves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribe View Post
    Will Tail tanking Isgebind will lock it from using any moves?
    No, it'll open flail. *not sure if being whooshed*

    Edit: Ok, makes more sense after reading next post. Should lock breath WS yes.

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    It will just use flail and wing iirc.

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    Whats Ideal evisceration set look like for THF?

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