Random Question Thread XXI: You're Not My Random Question Thread Dad

[Atoreis]

Assuming it's a 4 hit WS or less (including DW) so not running into swing cap.

It'd be +(.03*2 (extra hits from TA on first hit ) + (1-.03)*.15 (chance of DA, since DA can't happen if TA does.) * # of hits).

= +.411 for a 1 hit WS with an offhand.

Edit: also, your A is wrong. If you did that way you end up with .42, same as B.

What you mean by DA can't proc when TA does? TA can proc on main hand and DA on 2nd hand for example for +3 total hits on dual wield/h2h WS.

.03*2 is chance for one TA where is the chance for 2nd?

You seems to write my option A but you added TA over DA priority ( 1-.03) but you forgot about second TA.

[Pendulum]

How is my 3 man setup with WHM BLM THF getting 6/8 when there are only 7 possible triggers? Your math seems a little suspect to me, but hey thanks for contributing!

And as mentioned already, it pops in magic-absorb so how exactly do you "sidestep all the Spikes bullshit entirely"?

[sedna]

Is the drop rate on the Attestation NM pop item horrible even with TH/procs, or should I not be killing the corresponding Hydras? Spent 1.5 hours today in Glacier, had all TEs, proc'd fine (I know it only seems to help currency drop rate... any idea if it hurts other drop rates?) but not a single pop item ever dropped. We usually stick to the lower level ones since I usually just duo it... is there a set of mobs with a higher drop rate?

[Atoreis]

Is the drop rate on the Attestation NM pop item horrible even with TH/procs, or should I not be killing the corresponding Hydras? Spent 1.5 hours today in Glacier, had all TEs, proc'd fine (I know it only seems to help currency drop rate... any idea if it hurts other drop rates?) but not a single pop item ever dropped. We usually stick to the lower level ones since I usually just duo it... is there a set of mobs with a higher drop rate?

Many ppl were saying that drop rate is horrible and you can get up to 5 in 2h if you TH all Hydras but you can end up with none too. Sounds like 100's from NMs.

[Taube]

Melee Gaiters.
Is it enough to macro them in for when I put counterstance on or must I keep them on for the duration of the stance to get the bonus?

[Atoreis]

Melee Gaiters.
Is it enough to macro them in for when I put counterstance on or must I keep them on for the duration of the stance to get the bonus?

keep

[Julian]

Um, according to a ton of people a while back, you only have to put them on when you use it.

[Koyangi]

Thanks for the replies lol.
I multibox all of this, the blm/brd is level 75 capped, and if it for some reason cant get grellow, I can warp and come back on blu/blm, done deal.
thf + whm + 100% grellow and im multiboxxing these, I'll definately be as careful as possible on Trist.

[Atoreis]

Um, according to a ton of people a while back, you only have to put them on when you use it.

Unless someone will show me a good prove for this I will say you need to keep them on. I can test it tomorrow.

[Kyte]

Um, according to a ton of people a while back, you only have to put them on when you use it.

those tons of people are right

[Foldypaws]

What you mean by DA can't proc when TA does? TA can proc on main hand and DA on 2nd hand for example for +3 total hits on dual wield/h2h WS.

.03*2 is chance for one TA where is the chance for 2nd?

You seems to write my option A but you added TA over DA priority ( 1-.03) but you forgot about second TA.

I didn't forget about anything. It's multiplied by "number of hits" (which is a max of 2, or 2 exactly in this case.) That term at the end. your "second TA" is accounted for by setting that number to 2. Because the first hit isn't any different than the second.

DA can't proc on a given hit if TA does.

[Julian]

Unless someone will show me a good prove for this I will say you need to keep them on. I can test it tomorrow.

I asked the same thing, and the best I got was a really small sample test.

Not to uncredit it, as I'm pretty sure that they are right.

[Pendulum]

It is small but pretty well-conducted and the OP wasn't a complete moron

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...738&howmany=50

[Atoreis]

I didn't forget about anything. It's multiplied by "number of hits" (which is a max of 2, or 2 exactly in this case.) That term at the end. your "second TA" is accounted for by setting that number to 2. Because the first hit isn't any different than the second.

DA can't proc on a given hit if TA does.

If you doing .03*2 then it is a chance for ONE TA. Because it adds 2 hits with fTP=1 so 3%*2 is chance for one TA. By you logic it should be .03*2(fTP)*2(number of hits) you can throw away fTP at calculating DA because .15*2(number of hits) is the same as .15*1(fTP)*2(number of hits).

[Diddy Kong]

Cruor to gil, best money is just gloves, feet, and legs?

[Mercilessturtle]

He has "number of hits" there, read it again.

[Deader2818]

Thought the gaiters only had to be on when you activate it much like with the af pieces for focus and dodge

[Diddy Kong]

Thought the gaiters only had to be on when you activate it much like with the af pieces for focus and dodge

Yeah, only old relic/af I know that doesn't is the warrior's berserk one, whichever piece that was.

[cdgreg]

Wiki says the cooldown on Ratatoskr is 90 minutes, true?

[Foldypaws]

Yeah, only old relic/af I know that doesn't is the warrior's berserk one, whichever piece that was.

DRK pieces don't either. Need to keep them on to enhance Souleater (or loLast Resort >_> )