Random Question Thread XXI: You're Not My Random Question Thread Dad

[Chun Liroy]

Gonna be doing Beastmen kings (ToAU) soon for the LS, any updated info relevant for level 90s. Ideal job set up/strats?

[Chun Liroy]

War/Sam 504 needs 39 store TP in gear to hit 21 TP a hit with 16 TP on WS for a 4 hit. 31 store TP for 20 TP a hit for a 5 hit and 7 store TP for 16.7 store TP a hit or a 6 hit.

Store TP total or in gear? I know what you said, I must have a bad sTP calculator then.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Gear. so 39 TP + 15 in trait = 54 total store TP for 21 TP a hit.
And I was gonna write something snide remark but your sig saved you !

[ronin sparthos]

Gonna be doing Beastmen kings (ToAU) soon for the LS, any updated info relevant for level 90s. Ideal job set up/strats?

These are all a complete joke @90. Have someone hold adds while a party drops the main NMs.

So long as you have two DD tanks, a mage and some BRD support you should be fine. Gurfs 2hr and Gulools 2hr are the only things remotely dangerous.

@RQT

What is the ideal setup for the Ghostbusters KC50 - Whom Wilt Thou Call?

Looking to snag a pair of Calmecac Subligar.

[Byrthnoth]

Sounds the same as all the other 4-mob KC50s. Unsleepable but not very difficult monsters.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ta...Wilt_Thou_Call

[Apelila]

Does magic casting time%- have to be worn the duration of the spell? Can it be swapped out after start of cast for MAB?

[Chun Liroy]

I assume it works like fast cast and thus must be worn prior to casting and can be swapped midcast.

[Gippo]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8273/confirmedf.jpg

for any doubters out there, TP Bonus DOES work on offhand.

Cloudsplitter damage on Robber crabs. Neutral day. Never changed gear

100 TP
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645
655
584
669
600
645

100 TP with TP bonus axe
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806
790
859
770
774
850

[Fievel]

You are fucking adorable

[Xera]

for any doubters out there, TP Bonus DOES work on offhand.

Cloudsplitter damage on Robber crabs. Neutral day. Never changed gear

derp

Use level 1 mobs next time and actually use 100TP for each WS. <_<

Ty for test tho.

[Chun Liroy]

Use level 1 mobs next time and actually use 100TP for each WS. <_<

Ty for test tho.

It's a fairly clear bump in damage, and he said it's 100 TP.

[Xera]

It's a fairly clear bump in damage, and he said it's 100 TP.

Clearly wasn't 100TP since there's damage variance. But yes the large bump is obvious so it's fine.

[Hyriu]

These are all a complete joke @90. Have someone hold adds while a party drops the main NMs.

So long as you have two DD tanks, a mage and some BRD support you should be fine. Gurfs 2hr and Gulools 2hr are the only things remotely dangerous.

@RQT

What is the ideal setup for the Ghostbusters KC50 - Whom Wilt Thou Call?

Looking to snag a pair of Calmecac Subligar.

Did it with NIN(me) MNK RDM WHM BRD, I tanked 2 mobs(don't remember which, ghost and Flesh I think, while RDM held the DOG and MNK killed the Skele. Pretty Simple.

[Obsidian]

It's a fairly clear bump in damage, and he said it's 100 TP.

Unless I'm stupid, Cloudsplitter damage should be static, so they weren't all 100 TP, and he said his gear didn't change but he clearly had a different/no axe on before he equipped the TP bonus axe, so I'm wondering if Fencer is coming into play too.

I'm sure someone more qualified than I can explain the numbers, but it doesn't look like the test was done properly, in any case.

[Chun Liroy]

Unless I'm stupid, Cloudsplitter damage should be static, so they weren't all 100 TP, and he said his gear didn't change but he clearly had a different/no axe on before he equipped the TP bonus axe, so I'm wondering if Fencer is coming into play too.

I'm sure someone more qualified than I can explain the numbers, but it doesn't look like the test was done properly, in any case.

variation in damage can be explained through mob level variance, I think. If anything, Fencer would increase the damage on the cloudspitter damage w/o the 100 TP axe, and still there is a clear difference.

[shaddix]

I need advice on job selection for obtaining abyssea shits. Gf doesn't want to level whm, I was going to convince her to do it anyway since I am leveling mnk. But I have happened upon a taru whm mule I can utilize. So what job should the gf level in order to complement whm mule + mnk main? thf?

Thank you

[Fievel]

Can do blm with brd sub for grellow

[Chun Liroy]

I need advice on job selection for obtaining abyssea shits. Gf doesn't want to level whm, I was going to convince her to do it anyway since I am leveling mnk. But I have happened upon a taru whm mule I can utilize. So what job should the gf level in order to complement whm mule + mnk main? thf?

Thank you

Replacing sex with ffxi? ok

[shaddix]

Replacing sex with ffxi? ok

We banged just the other day I'll have you know. We still need to go get birth control pills but that's all the way in bham. Maybe I will do that tomorrow we have to go there anyway for airport.

[Xera]

variation in damage can be explained through mob level variance, I think. If anything, Fencer would increase the damage on the cloudspitter damage w/o the 100 TP axe, and still there is a clear difference.

Magic WS don't have pDIF nor does Cloudsplitter have a dINT property. It's static damage outside of MDT/MDB.

Issue is the testing, well it makes no sense. There should be absolutely no damage variance if the 100TP is correct. Even if its not and he was off 1 or 2 due to getting hit, it should be story of being off by 2 or 4, not 89. To get that 859, he'd have to have around 275TP. This makes me believe gear may have changed contrary to the claim. Or effects such as STR down.

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Mathematically it should be the following (unless crabs take bonus DMG+ on Thunder damage, I dont think they do...but this crap isn't even close to the sample test):

100TP
Damage = (( Lv+2+WSC ) * fTP) * MDIF
Damage = (( 90+2+( ( (101*.4)+(72*.4) ) * .85) * 3.75 ) * 1
Damage = (92+( ((40.4)+(28.8 )) * .85) * 3.75
Damage = (92+( 69 * .85)) * 3.75
Damage = (92+58 ) * 3.75
Damage = (150) * 3.75
Damage = 562

If neck is MAB+2 then 573.
With fencer it's around 630~. I'm not sure how Fencer rounds or floors.

200TP
Damage = (( Lv+2+WSC ) * fTP) * MDIF
Damage = (( 90+2+( ( (101*.4)+(72*.4) ) * .85) * 5 ) * 1
Damage = (92+( ((40.4)+(28.8 )) * .85) * 5
Damage = (92+( 69 * .85)) * 5
Damage = (92+58 ) * 5
Damage = (150) * 5
Damage = 750

If neck is MAB+2 then 765

Honestly it just needs a more controlled environment really to make a solid conclusion, no reason to white knight uncontrolled tests.

No one said some bonus wasn't apparent, more so our point is the math doesn't back the test, when providing proof people generally do just that, prove it.