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  1. #1401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    I have 1 point in Fealty for a free Citadel Buster, and that's about it.
    This confuses me. Fealty protects against non-aligned magic damage only, like Behemoth's meteor, magic damage which has no element.

    But I had thought Citadel Buster was absolutely proven to be light element, so fealty shouldn't help against it.

  2. #1402
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    Quote Originally Posted by GImpers View Post
    Is this a good build for war/sam (5hit/26% haste)? If not, what changes should I make?
    If I'm not mistaken, 6-hit is still better even without a Ukon.


    EDIT:
    So do something like; Restraint Up, Restraint Down. With Double Attack augments on E.Body.

  3. #1403
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haborym View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, 6-hit is still better even without a Ukon.
    Oh. I wasn't aware. What 6-hit build is the optimal build then?

  4. #1404
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    Is there a better easyish alternative to ravager's earring for war while i work on wotg for moonshade?

  5. #1405
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aihree View Post
    This confuses me. Fealty protects against non-aligned magic damage only, like Behemoth's meteor, magic damage which has no element.

    But I had thought Citadel Buster was absolutely proven to be light element, so fealty shouldn't help against it.
    meteor "is" dark elem (can resist with dark build)

  6. #1406
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    Ravager's Earring is simple. But if you insist on not getting it, use an attack earring.

  7. #1407
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    @ pld merits, would absolutely 5/5 fealty. It's pretty neat to have against mobs with really crippling enfeebles, and you will rarely ever need chivalry anymore.

  8. #1408
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haborym View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, 6-hit is still better even without a Ukon.
    Can you explain why.

  9. #1409
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aihree View Post
    Fealty protects against non-aligned magic damage only
    No it doesn't. It protects against all sorts of stuff, including astral flow abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Can you explain why.
    Well, especial for a Ukon you sacrifice a ton of stats (-120 Attack, 25 STR, 10 DEX, 6 DA, if I remember correctly) for the 5-hit. And with all the new TA/DA you are more likely to over TP then WS at 100%, making the 6-hit ideal.

  11. #1411
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    Can you compare two ideal 5 hit and 6 hit ukon for me then? I'm unsure of which I keep seeing and how much sTP is necessary.

  12. #1412
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    Can you skill up on the hit from Retaliation?

  13. #1413
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    Yes, that's a large part of why war is awesome for skilling weapons :D

  14. #1414
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    Keep in mind, the sets I'm asking for use Widowmaker not Ukon. Thanks.

  15. #1415
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    There were some recent discussions regarding MNK, and while I've browsed through those and also BG's history via Google, I've read conflicting reports on recommended atma sets for a few things. Therefore, in an effort to consolidate this advice with current answers, I ask the following:

    1. Which atmas are recommended for AOEing mobs for farming purposes with Cataclysm?

    2. Which atmas would you use while brewing anything that isn't Dark resistant with Cataclysm?

    3. What set of atmas would suit brewing with Flash Nova best?

    That wraps up the MNK questions, so I'm going to move on to something DRK-related.

    4. My friend is wondering what DRK weapon to pursue. I read through some old discussions involving Kirschy and a few other DRKs regarding Quietus's unreliability, though I had previously thought it was worth shooting for. Was I wrong, and if so, what weapon should a DRK go for? Once they have it, what atmas do you suggest (under the impression that they know how to gear for STP properly)?

    I know that's a crap ton of questions, so I thank anyone who wades through them to try producing some answers. Thanks.

  16. #1416
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    ^
    1. Not 100%, but I usually roll with the same as brew atmas or switch Griffon's Claw for Baying Moon for more MAB.

    2. Ultimate, Smiting Blow, Griffon's Claw

    3. Ultimate, Smiting Blow, Beyond (?)

  17. #1417
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    Cosmos is vastly superior to ultimate on cataclysm, with or without a brew.

  18. #1418
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    Mandau worth it with a Twashtar? y/n? Higher DMG and attack, but you'd lose out on Rudra's/aftermath.

  19. #1419
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Can you explain why.
    Because someone did a bad comparison and everyone started parroting it. Without marches, 6 hit -> 5 hit windowmaker is +18% WS damage (assuming sword strap on the 6 hit). You gain 8 double attack, 27 attack, 15 str, and some likely useless dex/acc during tp phase only. And that is assuming you have a perfectly augmented armada hauberk. The 5 hit easily wins unless you actually need the acc. With marches it is closer, but still 5 hit wins.

  20. #1420
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    ^
    1. Not 100%, but I usually roll with the same as brew atmas or switch Griffon's Claw for Baying Moon for more MAB.

    2. Ultimate, Smiting Blow, Griffon's Claw

    3. Ultimate, Smiting Blow, Beyond (?)
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulum View Post
    Cosmos is vastly superior to ultimate on cataclysm, with or without a brew.
    All right, this does coincide with some of what I'd read (posts dating back to March), so I thank you for the clarification. Cosmos makes sense, considering the Dark+. Would you agree, then, that Ultimate, Smiting and Beyond is fine for Flash Nova? Beyond is already in there, and to the best of my knowledge nothing else provides Light+.

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