Random Question Thread XXI: You're Not My Random Question Thread Dad

[Obsidian]

Unless the mob previously agro'd someone first or it's named Amun I've never had claim oddities.

The Corse in Tahrongi requires two actions as well, as I recall.

Warcry isn't an action on the mob, so that doesn't matter. I don't know how much enmity Hojo and Kurayami are, but you could've been hit and lost too much CE or something. Either way, I doubt together they're enough to overcome the gain from a few crits. I find when I'm in claim wars the fastest spells I can cast work best.

[home]

Would anyone be able to give me an estimate of the cruor gained per hour in a cruor party? I've never seen one on pheonix, wondering if it's better then a standard FC party. Thanks

[Byrthnoth]

I know someone was working on it, but how does claiming work, is there a clear cut answer? Just got into a claim fight with the aforementioned thf. I provoked w/ yonin up as well as kurayami/hojo+warcry and he outclaimed me with voke and a couple hits.

This is all that I have: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Claim_System

If you were both camping it, I don't think I've investigated what happens when two people try to claim a recently popped monster at once. I would guess there's some funkiness there designed for DA, but I don't know. In general, now, a few hits is going to kick the shit out of Kura/Hojo and Warcry hate-wise.

[Fiarlia]

Any idea how long it would take, roughly, to complete a relic weapon going in for coin farming every day? (Dualboxing)

[Chun Liroy]

Ok thanks byrth, nother question, how much damage does widowmaker increase damage to DA?

[Limlight]

probably still months upon months, depending on how much gil you have/make and buy currency. Some friends are doing an amano, they found a nice little area in bastok and were pulling 200-400+ currency per farming session (7ish people 2 were dual-boxed). I'm not sure if you can do more than that reliably, but byne stage is going pretty fast for him. Also he doesn't always get 5-7 people everyday.

[Olor]

Hi I am posting here because I am a big noob and could use some direction on what gear to seek out to be a passable BST/WHM and BST/DNC. I know that other jobs/subs would probably be better for general stuff, but that is what I have and I would like to gear it to the best of my ability for doing things with my friends until I have taken more jobs and subs up.

Keep in mind I am fairly poor gil-wise (but I am willing to save up for stuff that is worth it), and my social capital is negligible in terms of being able to get a team of people together to get me gear (although I do have some friends who could help me with stuff if it is not too insane).

So a few questions:

I am wearing full perle now, generally (except when I use reward I switch out to AF Feet, AF body and Ogre gloves). What armor upgrades should I prioritize? What can I get that would be worth losing the haste gear set bonus? How many pieces would I need to have to comfortably switch over?

Currently I have nothing I switch to when using Rampage. I am sure that is terribad, can people suggest anything?

My rings suck. I am using two Ruby Rings when I am /DNC and a Ruby Ring and an Ether Ring when I am /WHM. What sort of thing should I be using while TPing? While WSing? While /Whm? I know there is better even for just +MP than an ether's ring but I wasn't sure how high a priority spending money on that should be.

When I am in Abyssea as /whm I am usually curing/hasting so much (oh god, the whms in abyssea PUGS often make me cry) that I just switch to a light staff and send my pet to smack crap. Is this really terrible? I wasn't really getting much TP with all the curing, and not being engaged makes it easier to run over to the Sam trying to solo 8 things at once and dying. (This is when I've been invited as an off healer.) If this isn't so terrible I should stop doing it altogether - is there gear that would make me better at doing this?

Neckpeice: I currently only have an arcticer's torque and a beast torque for BST. I am sure there is better. Please inform me. What should I be using with /DNC and /WHM? Feel free to suggest macro pieces or whatever. I want to become a better player.

Earrings, they are so embarrassing I don't even remember what they are. Any suggestions?

Back: Nifty Mantle. What should I aim for with /dnc and /whm?

Belt: Crudelis belt. I am sure this sucks, same question.

Axes: Doom Taber with augments (I think +10 attack and +3 strength - I am sure there are better but it was the best one I got) and a Glyph Axe. I am just about halfway done my first pet -pdt axe (started yesterday, TotM is easier than I thought it would be, but these next trials seem tougher).

It would be great if people could prioritize things I should be aiming for as well, in terms of what is more important.

Things I think I should get:

Moogle Kupo Etat Hat with pet -10% pdt (what should my second augment be? Pet haste?)
Shepard's Chain
Pet -PDT axes (X2)
Suppoanimi (pls forgive my spelling)
Raja's ring (working on CoP)
Monster's Gloves (working on Dyna zone wins)

[Mojo]

Ok thanks byrth, nother question, how much damage does widowmaker increase damage to DA?

I haven't seen any data, but according to JP wiki, it's 5%.

[TheDirtyHobo]

Any idea how long it would take, roughly, to complete a relic weapon going in for coin farming every day? (Dualboxing)

Roughly a long fucking time. If you could average 60 a run, plus the odd 100 piece, say, every third run, that's ~93 per run average. Your average relic is about ~16k total currency. That's around 170 runs, just shy of half a year if you go every day without skipping.

I don't know if that estimate of currency/run is accurate, though. I would guess it's highballing slightly.

[Byrthnoth]

BST questions

It doesn't take much to break the Perle set bonus for BST, I think. If you get AF3+1 legs, that should be enough to make it worth using a mix'n'match over full Perle. AF3+1 head improves upon this. AF3+1 body is a further improvement. Hands and feet are useful, but they aren't TP gear until you get a better build.

Looking at all the things you're listing, I'd say what you really need is some gil. I'd recommend to get gil, I'd recommend capping your merits in Abyssea while you skill up. This will get you a lot of Cruor, which you can turn into gil by getting the Chocobo Bastion Op in Abyssea - Attohwa, buying Chocobo blinkers from the NPC near the chocobo, and NPCing them for about 500 gil:200 Cruor. My second recommendation is going to be a little odd, but... don't buy the best gear and focus on turning what you do have into R/Ex alternatives. If you're upgrading from Ruby rings, go to Flame. Don't save and scrap for a Pyrosoul that'll be outdated in a month when you have so many more significant upgrades to make.

Make shout groups that go after AF3+1 seals for Beastmaster. Look up the NMs on Wiki, choose the best one, shout for a BLM/BRD, WHM, and a melee, offering 3 non-BST seals. I do not join shout groups generally, but the NMs are so easy that I'd bet they can handle them. I'd hope that you can get one piece done a night, but it's shout-related so maybe it'd take two nights per piece. I'd prioritize Legs and then Head.

* Neck: A lot of things are better than Arctier's Torque, especially for BST. In fact, I'm not really sure Arctier's torque has a use for BST. Realistically, even a Spike Necklace would be better.
* Earrings: Brutal/Suppa
* Back: Atheling Mantle. If you go to Abyssea - Altepa and ask people fighting Orthrus (near Dhalmels) nicely, they'll probably give you one for free. It's 3% Double Attack and 20 Attack. I have given away dozens.
* Belt: Once you get further along in CoP, you should be able to access the Sacrarium and solo yourself a Swift Belt (4% Haste)
* You should be able to solo all of CoP right now on Beastmaster, and it's a solid storyline with a nice ratio of cutscene to action. Apart from Rajas and Brutal being large improvements for those slots, I think the experience should be fun for you. You should be able to solo some Limbus zones for coins. Feel free to post here and ask which ones/how when the time comes.
* Shepherd's Chain might be good if BST is your final destination, but it's only -2% damage and the pop/droprate is bullshit. You can waste a lot of time for a very marginal increase in efficiency with that NM, and you have plenty of other more productive ways to spend the same time.


I also have no information about Widowmaker's effect.

[Atoreis]

Any idea how long it would take, roughly, to complete a relic weapon going in for coin farming every day? (Dualboxing)

6 months

[Karbuncle]

Roughly a long fucking time. If you could average 60 a run, plus the odd 100 piece, say, every third run, that's ~93 per run average. Your average relic is about ~16k total currency. That's around 170 runs, just shy of half a year if you go every day without skipping.

I don't know if that estimate of currency/run is accurate, though. I would guess it's highballing slightly.

IDK if he's saying Solo or whatever, but with a half-assed Group of ~6 I can average about 200 coins a run now, sometimes higher. (One run i got around 370 thanks to a 100).

I think some groups can do more... Not sure.

Edit: Dualboxing, Well, on THF/DNC and BST/DNC, We found a good camp in Xarc and were able to farm about 150/160 coins Duo.

[Atoreis]

IDK if he's saying Solo or whatever, but with a half-assed Group of ~6 I can average about 200 coins a run now, sometimes higher. (One run i got around 370 thanks to a 100).

I think some groups can do more... Not sure.

He wrote dualboxing.

[JustaWAR]

What's the best Limbus zone to solo/duo for coins? nin/dncx2 or dd+mage

Thanks

[matix]

get about 40~ from apo SE

and:

can i kill the iron giant in miseraux(RR atma one) with nin+whm+gimp friend on nin/thf/brd? tips/suggestions for as few ppl as possible?

[shen]

Just got RDM 90... looking for advice on Group 1 & 2 merits since this is like my first mage-y job >.>

Was thinking 5/5 Ice Accuracy and Convert in Group 1, though (so far) I haven't been riding my Convert timer so maybe do Earth Accuracy instead? Then in Group 2, I was gonna go 5/5 Slow and Paralyze... but I was wondering if Phalanx is worth it at all?

[shaddix]

Best way to go about getting mnk body seals? I also have rdm and brd so I wanted to do that cactuar nm to kill multiple birds with one stone but it seems like a pain in the ass.
I only have 4 characters and I can't see a way to use yellow proc jobs that also are capable of killing the mob. None of them have blu leveled.

If leveling blu is the answer to my question I am open to that.

Thanks

[Diddy Kong]

Best way to go about getting mnk body seals? I also have rdm and brd so I wanted to do that cactuar nm to kill multiple birds with one stone but it seems like a pain in the ass.
I only have 4 characters and I can't see a way to use yellow proc jobs that also are capable of killing the mob. None of them have blu leveled.

If leveling blu is the answer to my question I am open to that.

Thanks

Tier 2 VNM in Grauberg drops them fairly often, at least in my experience. That's how I got mine. It also drops bard if I remember right.

[Obsidian]

Just got RDM 90... looking for advice on Group 1 & 2 merits since this is like my first mage-y job >.>

Was thinking 5/5 Ice Accuracy and Convert in Group 1, though (so far) I haven't been riding my Convert timer so maybe do Earth Accuracy instead? Then in Group 2, I was gonna go 5/5 Slow and Paralyze... but I was wondering if Phalanx is worth it at all?

5/5 Ice and Convert. Inside it doesn't matter, outside it does. Some combination of Slow II/Para II/Dia III is probably best. SCH is far and away the best sub for RDM, so unless you need Stona you can accession Phalanx, making Phalanx II redundant. Bio III, I never bothered. Blind II, I dunno. Get someone to use Kurayami: Ni instead. I'm 5/5 Slow/Para II, but I should probably drop most of my Para II merits and put them into Dia III. I'm lazy.

Best way to go about getting mnk body seals? I also have rdm and brd so I wanted to do that cactuar nm to kill multiple birds with one stone but it seems like a pain in the ass.
I only have 4 characters and I can't see a way to use yellow proc jobs that also are capable of killing the mob. None of them have blu leveled.

If leveling blu is the answer to my question I am open to that.

Thanks

I ended up doing a combination of Ironclads and Garudas for my MNK seals. I found I could kill the Ironclad a lot faster than waiting for Garuda to pop and then chasing it around, but I couldn't duo the Ironclad, and Garuda drops BRD too. For RDM bodies I just spammed the Tiger in Ule. I tried the cactuar once, and if you have a few decent SMN/BST friends they could probably do it with quasi-invincible pets (Titan only took 500 from 4000 Needles with Ducal Guard on), but otherwise you're gonna need a couple parties. The 4000 Needles spam near the end gets pretty obnoxious in my experience.

[shaddix]

Ok thanks both of you.