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  1. #1921
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    BST can probably solo all your seals for AF+1 at least, but you may need some atmas first. Don't know much about BST but they can solo the majority of lesser NMs at 90 I believe.

    For getting other stuff one of you will probably have to level WHM at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandor42 View Post
    My wife and I just returned after a year long break, and it seems like a bit has changed. Is there any combination of BST/WAR/COR and BST/SMN/SAM that can duo most of the gear we'd need to be competent? Or are we just going to want to suck it up and level NIN/MNK and a WHM?
    Pet jobs are very powerful but the issue comes with procing (read this http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Weakness_Targeting) In fact if you love BST and SMN you'll have a field day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishida View Post
    Other than for extra stuns, what are the applicable reasons to use BLM sub on WHM in Abyssea if any? RDM too if any? I'm trying to do as little leveling on my mule as possible, but I'll get certain subs leveled if I have a good reason.
    Only thing I can think of is widening your Dark procs for grellow. You can get Aspir/Drain/Dispel with /SCH, Aspir/Drain/Bio2 with /BLM and Dispel/Bio2 with /RDM.

    Honestly, go with /SCH.

    Quote Originally Posted by FNH View Post
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/39250/

    is that the most economical/easiest way to access the new content (to clarify I have up to Wotg installed)? Also, any links to an updated version of where to level? I've been sifting a bit, but some things just aren't really clear. thanks.
    Probably in terms of Steam, yes.

    In terms of what's happening on the levelling front, a few things have changed very recently so don't worry too much. Levels 1-30 you can solo now with no xp loss and tons of ways of boosting xp. You've probably found Fields of Valor already but very recently they've brought in Grounds of Valor. Which allows you to team up in alliances to do pages for xp which when completed give you random buffs.

    Once you hit 30, the focus tends to switch to Abyssea. Because the xp is so immensely fast/high inside abyssea low level characters tend to beg places in alliances to use their cruor to buy forbidden keys and open the sea of chests which drop from mobs there so that others can keep on killing. However quite a few people are enjoying Grounds of Valor now and you can do this to high level so joining an Abyssean alliance isn't quite as necessary as it once was. Its useful if you don't want to or can't spend hours in an Abyssea party.

    Also you'll find that the xp you get per mob is now a lot higher. Even from EP/DC mobs.

  4. #1924
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishida View Post
    Fair enough. BLM sub it is. I may get SCH eventually leveled if I need to assist an LS with the WHM for bigger fights/events, but for now BLM shall do then. I already have MM atma. While we're on that subject..what are the other 2 I need for a mule?
    mules with low cure potency best to full time rescuer / mm / ambition TBH lots of fast cast is nice too

  5. #1925
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandor42 View Post
    My wife and I just returned after a year long break, and it seems like a bit has changed. Is there any combination of BST/WAR/COR and BST/SMN/SAM that can duo most of the gear we'd need to be competent? Or are we just going to want to suck it up and level NIN/MNK and a WHM?
    There are two kinds of gear you get from abyssea:
    - Yellow proc is any AF3 armor seals
    - Blue proc is any other Rare or R/EX gear in abyssea
    In order to duo NMs (which is very much possible even with your jobs (pets)) you would need proper atmas and abyssites. I remember quite successfully duoing NMs for AF3 seals (Scars Abyssea) as THF/NIN and BST/WHM back in the days when it came out. Having a THF in party pretty much guarantees you will get 1 AF3+1 seal from kill. Getting yellow proc from magic gets you ~2-3 seals from each kill on average.
    To efficiently farm your items I’d say you’ll need minimum:
    Yellow: tank+BLM
    Blue: MNK+healer (WHM preferable)
    If you don’t have at least BLM for yellow, you will be wasting a lot of time, both abyssea stones and your RL time. If you don’t have MNK for blue proc, you’ll be going 1/10-20 on NM drops, with MNK during blunt time it’s 80%+ droprate, often 1/1.
    My best advice would be: join shout runs and see how other people do it, especially since without any key item buffs you’ll get 1-shotted by many NMs. In comparison, a BST or SMN with proper buffs (atma/abyssites) can solo any Vision/Scar T1 NM in 5-10min.

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    Putting togather a RNG tp set this is what I had in mind. Corrections that aren't eponas and Zelus which I don't have yet?

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    Link doesnt work, you mean this? http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/219775

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    Yes thank you didn't check the link.

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    Is parry worth capping? Just noticed my mule which I often NIN or THF on is at 242 right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldelphia View Post
    Probably in terms of Steam, yes.

    In terms of what's happening on the levelling front, a few things have changed very recently so don't worry too much. Levels 1-30 you can solo now with no xp loss and tons of ways of boosting xp. You've probably found Fields of Valor already but very recently they've brought in Grounds of Valor. Which allows you to team up in alliances to do pages for xp which when completed give you random buffs.

    Once you hit 30, the focus tends to switch to Abyssea. Because the xp is so immensely fast/high inside abyssea low level characters tend to beg places in alliances to use their cruor to buy forbidden keys and open the sea of chests which drop from mobs there so that others can keep on killing. However quite a few people are enjoying Grounds of Valor now and you can do this to high level so joining an Abyssean alliance isn't quite as necessary as it once was. Its useful if you don't want to or can't spend hours in an Abyssea party.

    Also you'll find that the xp you get per mob is now a lot higher. Even from EP/DC mobs.
    Thanks for answering. If I buy the content through steam can I just use the code to unlock the content I don't have yet? Like I said I have up to Wotg installed and codes for that content, but i'd rather pay the $20 and not $10 for each section i don't have.

  11. #1931
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    Leveling BLU to 90, few questions:

    Required Atmas to get, and what setups for various situations?
    Merit reccomendations?
    Non-magian swords to get?
    What AF3 to upgrade first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNH View Post
    Thanks for answering. If I buy the content through steam can I just use the code to unlock the content I don't have yet? Like I said I have up to Wotg installed and codes for that content, but i'd rather pay the $20 and not $10 for each section i don't have.
    Yes, the latest combopack code will unlock everything so far (3x miniexp, 3x abyssea) but you can't go back and make a new account with just Vanilla + RotZ + ToAU + WotG that you "didn't use".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radec View Post
    Yes, the latest combopack code will unlock everything so far (3x miniexp, 3x abyssea) but you can't go back and make a new account with just Vanilla + RotZ + ToAU + WotG that you "didn't use".
    I'm using my old account which I used codes up to Wotg, that's why I want to know if the newest combo pack code will unlock just what I don't have. I don't want to have spent $20 to find out it can be only used to unlock everything for a new account. But I also don't want to spend $60 if I don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy Kong View Post
    Leveling BLU to 90, few questions:

    Required Atmas to get, and what setups for various situations?
    Merit reccomendations?
    Non-magian swords to get?
    What AF3 to upgrade first?
    Lion/Blinding Horn/Ultimate/Apoc/Razed Ruins/Gnarld Horn/VV/Minikin/Cosmos/Banisher/Sanguine

    I haven't done new content, but from testimonies, it looks like CA + Physical (Or Magic ACC if you primarily use nukes on them); BA otherwise

    Isador/???

    Depends on whether you want easy or "best" piece. Easiest: Legs>Hat>Body>Feet>Hands; Best varies with what you're doing. I won't bother detailing that since every piece serves a purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreg View Post
    Is parry worth capping? Just noticed my mule which I often NIN or THF on is at 242 right now.
    No. Someone in the old thread found that you parry about 5% of the time regardless of skill level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNH View Post
    I'm using my old account which I used codes up to Wotg, that's why I want to know if the newest combo pack code will unlock just what I don't have. I don't want to have spent $20 to find out it can be only used to unlock everything for a new account. But I also don't want to spend $60 if I don't have to.
    Just fucking google it, answered my question lol. supposedly it does, so I will try.

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    Will this BLU TP set suffice as a fresh 90, until I get some AF3? Body is Dual Wield and Acc

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/219807

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNH View Post
    Just fucking google it, answered my question lol. supposedly it does, so I will try.
    It will, all the individual expansions have separate codes. I have like 3 ultimate collections and only used one or two codes from each one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy Kong View Post
    It will, all the individual expansions have separate codes. I have like 3 ultimate collections and only used one or two codes from each one.
    I only got one cd key from steam, but it did work to unlock the addon content I didn't have.

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    Which is what the first half of Radec's post said <_>

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