Migawari and Igi Ningi +2

[Mojo]

More data.

383 Ninjutsu Skill & Iga Ningi +2

1000/1425	O	70.18%
1000/1433	X	69.78%

[Arthars]

Some data.

407 Ninjutsu skill & Iga Ningi +2

886/1385 O	63.97%
886/1393 X	63.60%

sexyy

[Mojo]

Some messing around with the limited data we have showed that Iga Ningi +2 may add a maximum of (from Kirschy's data) 10.869% and a minimum of (from my data) 10.862%. This is assuming that it just adds some constant amount. It's hard to say really at this point, not a lot of data, but from what I've looked over it seems unlikely to be linear. There may be some inflection point or tiers or AF3+2 might even add a static amount then enhance the skill bonus.

[Med]

Unfortunately mitigating any damage less then 95% of your HP is rarely a good thing when you are using Migawari. If you gonna use migawari in a fight where mob's TP move can do 80-110% of your HP then you want it to proc only on those life threatening attacks not to be wasted on some weaker ones after which you can just toss Cure VI.

Who put strategy and tactics into my nin?

This is a very interesting point. This will vary from mob to mob, but we now have at least three different angles of which to consider as a NIN tank. Do you want to max out haste with your miga? Or do you want to max out Ninjitsu skill. Also, how much HP/-pdt/-mdt gear do you want to wear too, since it affects how much damage will cause miga to proc.

Nin is somewhat trivial in abyssea, as there are only a select few mobs that can really one shot you if your NIN is fully developed with atmas and abyssites on things that aren't routinely brewed. I think this will be a more interesting problem for Ninjas to solve outside abyssea as we get more Lv90+ content, as NIN certainly feels gimpier without those nice buffs.

[Cream Soda]

Was that test just now? If so, perhaps it has some sort of check or bug related to not being at full HP. Redoing the math with the cure I hit myself with after I took the 1k needles, I was short 7hp on my December testing, you're obviously short some HP based on your logs. If that was done today, I don't see any other explanation outside of the HP deficit.

Could do no sub?

[Arthars]

Nin is somewhat trivial in abyssea, as there are only a select few mobs that can really one shot you if your NIN is fully developed with atmas and abyssites on things that aren't routinely brewed. I think this will be a more interesting problem for Ninjas to solve outside abyssea as we get more Lv90+ content, as NIN certainly feels gimpier without those nice buffs.

i do fine without atma buffs. i dont feel gimper and infact i feel better than the other 817236783612 people that went to easy-mode-brew-land and got the same gears

l2p

love to watch "decked out" people doing VW and die like mother fucking gimps

[Med]

i do fine without atma buffs. i dont feel gimper and infact i feel better than the other 817236783612 people that went to easy-mode-brew-land and got the same gears

l2p

love to watch "decked out" people doing VW and die like mother fucking gimps

Check your ego at the door.

Besides we're not at lv99 anyway. The way SE rolls, nin could be gimp again like in the old days and DRK makes a comeback or even PUP could.. no, forget I mentioned PUP.

My original reply was to the decision on whether or not to go full out Ninjitsu skill. And that IMO is an interesting quandry.

[Arthars]

theres no ego

egos are in abyssea

[Mercilessturtle]

Will you just stop? You are not special because you think abyssea is easy. We don't need to hear about it every 10 minutes, holy fuck.