E3 2011 Discussion Thread (discuss in here, and only in here)

[izembo]

nintendo only has good first party for nostalgia. they dont sell to the masses. you may love donkey kong, kirby, zelda, metroid, but if you think they sell even 1/5 of what something like call of duty does which drives people to the other systems, you'd be mistaken. mario is the only first party title that saves their system.

[Kurokikaze]

Native

Oh really... Let's see how that holds up in the future.

[Cantih]

Oh, to Kyo, or anyone there. If you can get to the Sony people, and ask if the NGP will be able to work with a stylus for fine control/no fingerprints on the screen, that'd be good news to have.

[Chun Liroy]

Judging off of the Zelda demo they have running on the system it looks to be more powerful than the 360 and PS3, but not by leaps and bounds. I don't think were going to get anything leaps and bounds more powerful even from the ps4/xbox3 when they eventually arrive. 1080p being standard is pretty awesome though. Had they shown a reliable online vision (not a built system, just a vision) that says they're going to make a PSN/XBL equivalent would have helped tons with the reveal.

What? Did you look at how shitty Tekken was. It's not going to be slightly more powerful, it's going to be slightly more weak. Especially with flash memory.

[izembo]

i would say that a stylus will not work, sony generally uses the touch tech from the heat of your touch

[Katlan]

so, from what im seeing the wii u does nothing to attract the hardcore gamer, which is what nintendo needed to do with this system. so what does it have to offer thats going to stop it from being an epic failure? people wont buy the system just to play call of duty when xbox is already superior for that, and the casuals can already bowl, they dont care about doing it in hd. what am i missing?

It will allow Nintendo (atm) to have 3rd party support since its graphics are comparable to current gen stuff. Whether these publishers modify their game to support the new hardware (aside being gimmicky like a map or something minor that nobody cares about) will be the major thing to be seen.

But Nintendo will still be SoL in the long run and they will, again, lose 3rd party support. When the real next gen systems start coming out in 2 years Nintendo will once again be left w/o 3rd party support since publishers will have to downgrade their game to be able to support the WIIU... assuming that the real next gen is gonna be a graphical leap.

[izembo]

next gen will probably be 1080p native at best as well, but they'll prolly have better video cards/ram that allows for better fps and more things happening on screen at once. the problem is nintendo is horrible at online as well, and they've done nothing to quell that fear. so really, there is no reason for a core gamer to go to the wii u, unless the big 3rd party games have exclusive on the wii u

[vrumpt]

What? Did you look at how shitty Tekken was. It's not going to be slightly more powerful, it's going to be slightly more weak. Especially with flash memory.

Everybody was screaming how shitty the montage was until it was revealed that it was from 360/ps3 versions then everybody stopped crying because it suddenly looked ok. I don't know how they did the Tekken thing but i have a hunch it was just edited 360/ps3 footage to show off some conceptual crap. Nothing else in that montage was running on Wii U why should tekken? They openly stated that nothing shown are actual games just tech demos. Now if it is on Wii U its just a straight port with no graphical tuning probably, but i dont think it is.

[Xno Kappa]

Where the fuck are you getting this info that it's slightly more powerful then the PS3/360?

[Cantih]

Thing is, is a new console hardware generation really called for, besides "oh, it's been a few years"?
Aren't devs constantly complaining new hardware architecture is a pain in ass to learn to develop for?

Hell, MS should get it's RROD shit handled before they try making anything new.

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Also, I suggest, for all consoles, the sales numbers should have failed units subtracted from the final total. I'm curious as to how much of the 360's "great" sales numbers are a byproduct of having to replace dead systems.

[Daruma]

Ok I take it back Dead Island looks pretty damn cool. Now hopefully they wont screw it up.

[ArchDizzle]

Idk man the zelda demo looked ok but i wasnt impressed with hey our system is as powerful as the PS3/360 and to showcase that here is a colorful/cartooney/childish looking game.... If they had demoed a "realistic" looking zelda it would have been better, I have 3 PS3/360's at home why do I need another probably dumbed down version? One that you have to play with a Game gear as a controller to boot.


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[Katlan]

All the 3rd party games they showed for the WIIU were all PS3/360 footage. None of that, afaik, was WIIU graphics.

HD Zelda looked amazing, but it looks just as amazing as any top end game for ps3/360. It just seems to look better since nobody is used to looking at HD Wii. Looking at the HD Zelda just made me cringe because of that controller. It looked terrible. You have to move your hand around to tap stuff, it looks big and bulky to control. It doesn't seem to rest comfortably in the hands because its so big and it has to weigh a decent chunk compared to other controllers

[vrumpt]

It doesn't seem to rest comfortably in the hands because its so big and it has to weigh a decent chunk compared to other controllers

Actually one of the [content removed] articles said the controller feels pretty good and doesn't weigh a ton surprisingly.
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Hands on impressions coming out seem pretty positive.

[Norellicus]

Maybe posted already, don't care, funny as hell

[Hiryo]

Should be no different than gaming with an ipad right? Pretty sure a lot of those games use fake, on-screen buttons. Just tag on trigger buttons and....that still sounds uncomfortable. Guess I better read that link.

[Kurokikaze]

Right analog above the buttons... wtf

[Insanecyclone]

[Katlan]

Actually one of the IGN articles said the controller feels pretty good and doesn't weigh a ton surprisingly.
http://gear.ign.com/articles/117/1173644p1.html

Hands on impressions coming out seem pretty positive.

Thats nice to hear. Watching that Zelda footage with the controller and the TV made it looks uncomfortable.

Should be no different than gaming with an ipad right? Pretty sure a lot of those games use fake, on-screen buttons. Just tag on trigger buttons and....that still sounds uncomfortable. Guess I better read that link.

ya, the Zelda footage showed him using touch screen to control Link and the analog sticks. Seems like inventory is handled from the touch screen also

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