Dev Tracker - Job adjustments 3rd June 2011

[Deadgye]

Why not just give them an ability that raises CE cap but lowers VE cap?

[Taint]

That depends on what you fight. Ppl keep forgetting that you are usually tank on NIN in hybrid evasion set and even then on let say Alfard you will need to cast Utsu so much that PLD could even go ahead with many tp from shield blocks and just swinging in TP set. Same goes for Bukhis (+ you are almost secured from cruor dispel which can easily kill the nin tank), Iron Giants and possible more that I have no time to search now.

MNK rips all those mobs to shreds and is super safe even after cruor debuffs.

I have a few friends with almace/ochain and they all say it rips but they are never on PLD in abyssea.

[Maurauc]

So, am I right in thinking this isn't in the update today? Maint. notes aren't including it.

[Gokulo]

So, am I right in thinking this isn't in the update today? Maint. notes aren't including it.

Hmm, I guess when they said "the next version update" they meant the next after the current one.

[Maurauc]

Hmm, I guess when they said "the next version update" they meant the next after the current one.

Next major, not minor, it seems. Sad times.

[Gokulo]

Nah, I think it might be next minor.

[Julian]

Nah, I think it might be next minor.

This. The minor update should be this month.

[Clash Perez]

Bah, you're right. I was looking forward to these.

[Taint]

So no job adjustments?

[Haborym]

Nope

[Taint]

Nope

Ewwww I had zanshin merited and everything lol

[Atoreis]

MNK rips all those mobs to shreds and is super safe even after cruor debuffs.

I have a few friends with almace/ochain and they all say it rips but they are never on PLD in abyssea.

I fought Bukhis on MNK and after cruor down it is VERY easy to wipe. One Ruinous scythe w/o shadows and you are dead. Max hp down to 109HP + stun so cant counter it's next 2 hits for like 300-400 and WHM would need to be super fast to cast erase and cure before it hits. Both MNK and NIN pretically spams utsusemi like crazy on Bukhis because it is MNK so hit 2 times and it has pretty impressive accuracy. It's not about being safe, PLD with Ochain/Almace will kill Bukhis much faster then MNK or NIN assuming no fanatics/2hr and can do it duo with BRD intead of WHM for even faster fight. Ironclad is easy but MNK will be stunned/amnesia for majority of fight when PLD with Ochain wont in which case they will kill in pretty similar time especially when you can't counter too. Alfrad I agree MNK can probably do it faster but NIN probably not.

[Haborym]

Ewwww I had zanshin merited and everything lol

Awww, saddest update.

[Darknightleo]

Then what was even worked on during this maint?

[Fievel]

Abyssea shit

[NynJa]

I get you have an Almace and Ochain Atroeis...but trying to belittle other jobs isnt really mature, especially if youre talking about Abyssea.

And Alfard's Serp Tails are a joke, never really break 1.5k, its Nizhizdla's that seem to crit and do 3k occasoinally.

[DNAval]

Im not really good with reading comprehension but i don't think he is trying to belittle other jobs, i think he said certain mobs not all abyssea, he is also pointing out a pld with ochain and almace not all pld. I think everyone understands that pld sucks ass in abyssea except for almace and ochain in "Very specific" situations.

just to make sure what i wrote is understood i said PLD + Ochain + Almace only good for 3-4 NM's out of all abyssea NM's.

[Skeelo]

I highly doubt a pld will kill Buhkis faster than a monk. Maybe a ninja if right circumstances, but i did 50 wings as mnk/war and maybe died 3-5 times. Which were usually due to stubborn dooms. Should have a stun or two anyway.

[Julian]

I highly doubt a pld will kill Buhkis faster than a monk. Maybe a ninja if right circumstances, but i did 50 wings as mnk/war and maybe died 3-5 times. Which were usually due to stubborn dooms. Should have a stun or two anyway.

Mind if I ask what setup? I'm going to be doing bukhis soon, debating if I should go mnk or nin. Thinking of just doing mnk(woe h2h, or kannagi nin) whm(/thf) rdm(/blm for stun, and phalanx2 for catacleaving if i go mnk, could change to blm but meh) and stunning the cruor dispel move.

[Skeelo]

Mnk/war whm/drk(mule doesnt have /blm) blm/brd rdm/blm thf. Didnt bother stunning agas or ruinous scythe. Just stuned Triclip and apoc ray. If a triclip did go off and buffs were lost, we stunned Ruinous scythe instead of apoc. If i did die due to stubborn doom, had thf hold it until our war or nin came over from farming KIs.