Dev Tracker - Job adjustments 3rd June 2011

[Dooom]

oooo.... Magian & Playability updates for this month?

Interesting.

Playability quite possibly refers to the abyssea box and multiple ??? updates. I'm not expecting anything further.

[Fievel]

Playability quite possibly refers to the abyssea box and multiple ??? updates. I'm not expecting anything further.

This, don't get your hopes up.

[Darkmagi]

All this talk about bukhis... are you retarded? Nin war thf whm or get the fuck out. Why would you use jobs like mnk or pld over staggering jobs? Killing is a non issue if you don't suck.

[Indalecia]

Thug-life

[Limlight]

i've personally never used mnk on bukhis, always had the nin and thf duo tank him and stun ruinous as previously mentioned.

[Indalecia]

3 smn, 2 bst, thf and blm proc

Its hilarious

[Rocl]

3 smn, 2 bst, thf and blm proc

Its hilarious

7 ppl too many

[Raen Ryong]

then who was pop??

[Fievel]

then who was pop??

lol

[Beave]

then who was pop??

Clearly you wait for one of the previously mentioned groups with less than ideal job combinations to wipe, thus leaving you with an already popped Bukhis.

[Indalecia]

You jelly? :D

[Skeelo]

Ninja is garbage, lvl pld

[Atoreis]

All this talk about bukhis... are you retarded? Nin war thf whm or get the fuck out. Why would you use jobs like mnk or pld over staggering jobs? Killing is a non issue if you don't suck.

You want to tell me that with 3 DD on it you have stun ready for every triclip and if that go through for every ruinous? It will tp move every 5-10 sec.

[Yugl]

I'm not bringing it up across topics I simply answer to stupid posts like you just did.

MNK/war on bukhis is pure luck and has nothing to do with skill. If you gonna get hit by clip then ruinous you are pretty much dead. Doesn't even need to hit you after because Ruinous can hit for 1900 w/o shadows with counterstance up. I don't care you can lowman it with 2xBLM and WHM stunning everything. I can do it with less ppl and more effective and reliable = better. Haters gonna hate.

@Zirael - Why DNAval can understand what I am trying to say and 95% forum can't idk but once again. No Im not trying to say to make almace+ochain if you expect best results in abyssea THAT IS WHY I DID KANNAGI FIRST so I can be most effective on farming other empy with WAR NIN WHM combo. Then I did Veret because I'm career MNK and because MNK own in abyssea. Thhen I did Almace more for BLU then PLD. Ochain was my 4th Empy because I like PLD a lot and because I like solo, lowman, supertanking and creative way of killing things. I'm not trying to sya PLD is more efficient then MNK or NIN in abyssea it's not. Those few NMs that it can kill faster/better can be also killed by others less reliable or with more support but still doesn't need Ochain PLD. What I am trying to say tho is that PLD with Ochain+Almace is nowhere near the bottom on which ppl trying to put it. It doesn't kill things 10 times slower but rather some %. I don't give a shit you need 2 Empyreans. Life is brutal. I'm not promoting PLD over something I'm promoting PLD overall. Bandwagon will exist always and jobs on top can change every update.

If you're a career MNK, then why the fuck won't you tell me the gear sets in RQ thread.

[Jem]

You want to tell me that with 3 DD on it you have stun ready for every triclip and if that go through for every ruinous? It will tp move every 5-10 sec.

We had WAR + NIN + THF on it last night and didn't try stun anything other than the doom move. We didn't have any issues at all.

Judging from how pathetic it was hitting me on PLD when I played with it then yes Almace/Ochain will be better than normal DD's. But I can't help but feel people are grossly overestimating the difficulty of Bukhis. Yeah Almace/Ochain is probably the best for it but what does it matter when the NM is pathetically easy anyway?

Surely if the NM's a joke to kill (and it is other than the inconvenience of reapplying cruor buffs) then it's better to have an optimum set-up for farming pops rather than killing since the farming bit takes longer. It's not like you'd ever be in risk of actually wiping to Bukhi's unless you sucked.


EDIT: If we're talking purely solo/duo kills then fair enough but surely you'd want TH for the wings anyway.

[Atoreis]

We had WAR + NIN + THF on it last night and didn't try stun anything other than the doom move. We didn't have any issues at all.

Judging from how pathetic it was hitting me on PLD when I played with it then yes Almace/Ochain will be better than normal DD's. But I can't help but feel people are grossly overestimating the difficulty of Bukhis. Yeah Almace/Ochain is probably the best for it but what does it matter when the NM is pathetically easy anyway?

Surely if the NM's a joke to kill (and it is other than the inconvenience of reapplying cruor buffs) then it's better to have an optimum set-up for farming pops rather than killing since the farming bit takes longer. It's not like you'd ever be in risk of actually wiping to Bukhi's unless you sucked.


EDIT: If we're talking purely solo/duo kills then fair enough but surely you'd want TH for the wings anyway.

When I was tryin to kill it on MNK as solo DD/tank I died twice from 109 maxhp after ruinous and being stunned. Another time it went smooth but I timed all Utsu perfectly. Maybe it was WHM fault (dual boxed by my friend who was trying to stagger on BLM) or maybe I should run from ruinous to gave him a little more time to erase+cure (Bukhis would need to run to me). 4/4 Ruinous is also 1900+ damage with counterstance. Maybe I am overestimating the difficulty of Bukhis on NIN and WAR with competent healer.

MNK merits and gear sets?

I assume Kicks + Counter for T1?

This one?

Why don't you write a PM?!?!?!?!

I can post you all gear for MNK but idk if you have that much inventory slots but if you really want it send me a PM and I will post it in RQT.

[Malacite]

Or you could just 2-shot him with Brewed Wildfires

[Atoreis]

Or you could just 2-shot him with Brewed Wildfires

Finally I know how you managed to get half of your Masamune.

[Deader2818]

Finally I know how you managed to get half of your Masamune.

herp, derp this joke never gets old!

[Taint]

When I MNK Bukhis I don't bother with CS. He's simple to keep shadows up and doesn't TP much with just a MNK on him.

We have a 90vere MNK in the shell that MNK/WARs him and that's kind of a coin toss. He either wrecks or gets wrecked.