Why I’m suing the Obama administration over Libya - By Ron Paul

[Kaslo]

con·quest/ˈkänkwest/Noun
1. The subjugation and assumption of control of a place or people by use of military force.
2. A territory that has been gained in such a way: "colonial conquests". More »
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yep.. applies to pretty much every 'conflict'

I don't see how we are trying to subject the Libyan people, I think we are more trying to protect them, but whatever.

[Rhinox]

Do you believe that without US support, NATO strikes in Kosovo and Libya would've occurred anyway? Should the US try to prevent NATO strikes in these areas (diplomatically of course) or just stay hands-off?

Stay hands-off.

The United States has NEVER participated in a justified war aside from the war in the pacific.

Please don't tell me the Civil War was fought over slavery or that we saved the jews in WWII when in fact we indirectly caused WWII by creating the climate in Germany for Hitler to rise in power.

btw Russia would've defeated the Nazi's we needed not get involved.

The Irony in all this is we have taken the Japanese tactic of Preemptive strikes and have recently used it a lot in our Wars today.

[Rhinox]

I don't see how we are trying to subject the Libyan people, I think we are more trying to protect them, but whatever.

ah yes what better way to 'protect' them by choosing a victor in the war and adding permanent bases in libya.. you got me there.

[tyven]

Game of Fossilized fuel where you win or you die.

10/10 would lol again

[archibaldcrane]

This of course implies that we should not enter strategic alliances of the "we got your back, you got ours" variety, in your estimation, correct?

[Rhinox]

This of course implies that we should not enter strategic alliances of the "we got your back, you got ours" variety, in your estimation, correct?

You're assuming the super powers today haven't attacked us because they're afraid of our "strategic alliances" when we out gun and out spend all of our allies combined.

[archibaldcrane]

You're assuming the super powers today haven't attacked us because they're afraid of our "strategic alliances" when we out gun and out spend all of our allies combined.

No I'm not. I'm just asking a question.

[Dimmauk]

Stay hands-off.

The United States has NEVER participated in a justified war aside from the war in the pacific.

Please don't tell me the Civil War was fought over slavery or that we saved the jews in WWII when in fact we indirectly caused WWII by creating the climate in Germany for Hitler to rise in power.

btw Russia would've defeated the Nazi's we needed not get involved.

The Irony in all this is we have taken the Japanese tactic of Preemptive strikes and have recently used it a lot in our Wars today.

[Rhinox]

No I'm not. I'm just asking a question.

http://static7.businessinsider.com/i...glenn-beck.jpg?

in all seriousness though we don't need 'strategic alliances' to keep us safe.

[Rhinox]

You've taken a history class before right? or at the very least own the history channel?

You would've known we basically raped and pillaged Germany at the end of World War 1 otherwise.

Germany just recently finished paying reparations for World War 1 just last year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ally-ends.html

[archibaldcrane]

http://static7.businessinsider.com/i...glenn-beck.jpg?

Nah. I completely disagree with this:

the super powers today haven't attacked us because they're afraid of our "strategic alliances"

[Rhinox]

Nah. I completely disagree with this:

I disagree with it as well. which was why I wanted to see were you were going with that question

anyway I'm done for the night.

[Dimmauk]

You've taken a history class before right? or at the very least own the history channel?

You would've known we basically raped and pillaged Germany at the end of World War 1 otherwise.

Germany just recently finished paying reparations for World War 1 just last year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ally-ends.html

So because the Stock Exchange collapsed, which cause world wide economic depression, that was the straw that broke the Germans back? Nevermind that Hitler was given power in a seedy political deal by Hindenburg and Papen who foolishly thought they could control him or the German people were still angry about the Treaty of Versailles and supported Hitler because he promised to overturn it. IDK, I havent opened a history book in like 20 years, and I dont watch the History channel unless I'm really stoned.

[Rhinox]

Wish their was a hitler facepalm jpg

[Kaslo]

Wish their was a hitler facepalm jpg

http://files.sharenator.com/Nazi_Fac...142-120905.jpg

[aurik]

Go ahead, withdraw from all alliances worldwide and then see what happens to your foreign influence.

Seriously.

[Dimmauk]

Wish their was a hitler facepalm jpg

[pohibaba]

Go ahead, withdraw from all alliances worldwide and then see what happens to your foreign influence.

Seriously.

There's nothing wrong with an alliance with strong, democratic, stable governments to protect each others needs when someone gets attacked. If we stuck to that we wouldn't be in any of the wars we're in now or have been in for the last 60 years.

[Rhinox]

Go ahead, withdraw from all alliances worldwide and then see what happens to your foreign influence.

Seriously.

Our influence is bought and paid for.

[Plow]

And we had to invade Iraq because Saddam was murdering his people and had institutionalized rape camps. We had to take him out to prevent him from continuing to gas the Kurds in the north!

At least with Saddam we had pictures of dead Kurdish mothers clutching their dead Kurdish babies to try and convince the average bleeding heart we had to take action. I actually feel kinda cheated here with this war all we got is threats of murdering the rebels and 1 claim by a libyan women that she was raped by some soldiers.

It's like they aren't even trying too hard now which is really disturbing.

Remember Iraq was actually a popular war in the beginning

I was going to post some more but holy shit once I got to this just... I can't believe I've ever bothered with these people.