Why I’m suing the Obama administration over Libya - By Ron Paul

[Plow]

Stay hands-off.

The United States has NEVER participated in a justified war aside from the war in the pacific.

Please don't tell me the Civil War was fought over slavery or that we saved the jews in WWII when in fact we indirectly caused WWII by creating the climate in Germany for Hitler to rise in power.

btw Russia would've defeated the Nazi's we needed not get involved.

The Irony in all this is we have taken the Japanese tactic of Preemptive strikes and have recently used it a lot in our Wars today.

oh lawd this shit again

[Plow]

Stay hands-off.

The United States has NEVER participated in a justified war aside from the war in the pacific.

Please don't tell me the Civil War was fought over slavery or that we saved the jews in WWII when in fact we indirectly caused WWII by creating the climate in Germany for Hitler to rise in power.

btw Russia would've defeated the Nazi's we needed not get involved.

The Irony in all this is we have taken the Japanese tactic of Preemptive strikes and have recently used it a lot in our Wars today.

oh lawd this shit again

edit: wow I thought all the double posts seemed more than usual in this thread, but that's crazy that wasn't even like a lag post or anything it just posted twice, wonder wtf that's about

[test123]

Stay hands-off.

The United States has NEVER participated in a justified war aside from the war in the pacific.

Please don't tell me the Civil War was fought over slavery or that we saved the jews in WWII when in fact we indirectly caused WWII by creating the climate in Germany for Hitler to rise in power.

btw Russia would've defeated the Nazi's we needed not get involved.

The Irony in all this is we have taken the Japanese tactic of Preemptive strikes and have recently used it a lot in our Wars today.

You are correct. But I would even go one step further and claim that the US provoked Japan using sanctions. Which politicians today consider "act of war".

[Plow]

For those whose heads aren't entirely up their asses:




Pretty good depiction of how things evolved in this "civil war" we're "picking a winner in" that essentially amounts to dictator + army + mercs vs civilians + army members that wouldn't slaughter civilians.

This thread was about if it was legitimate/legal or not, though, not about if it was justified, I just figured since it got all Rhinoxed might as well attempt to put a little bit of sense into it.

[Rhinox]

For those whose heads aren't entirely up their asses:




Pretty good depiction of how things evolved in this "civil war" we're "picking a winner in" that essentially amounts to dictator + army + mercs vs civilians + army members that wouldn't slaughter civilians.

This thread was about if it was legitimate/legal or not, though, not about if it was justified, I just figured since it got all Rhinoxed might as well attempt to put a little bit of sense into it.

Lol

[Rhinox]

It's adorable you think everything is black and white or good vs evil.

Got to be pretty much plow to be this naive. But alas just like you wouldn't find a sane person arguing with a piece of furniture similarly you won't find me seriously engaging with plow.

[Plow]

So you're going to attempt to by pretending you're just choosing not to acknowledge how retarded and wrong you are?

What's next, you going to tell us you were just trolling?

That might work since it's an argument you've failed horribly in before.

[Plow]

Just remember guys, killing innocent civilians that aren't even protesting, in their homes, especially women and children, is just too much of a gray area to come to any real conclusions.

[Plow]

Unless the attackers are Israeli in which case we should have been glassin em all along.

[Kaslo]

So you're going to attempt to by pretending you're just choosing not to acknowledge how retarded and wrong you are?

What's next, you going to tell us you were just trolling?

That might work since it's an argument you've failed horribly in before.

You don't read the NBA thread do you?

[Plow]

Oh no, I know, that's why all I've really done since he started posting is post the video and make fun of him.

[Dimmauk]

Unless the attackers are Israeli in which case we should have been glassin em all along.

LOL

[Rhinox]

I'd be pretty fucking plow to start an argument with plow.

There isn't a bigger bilary apologist then plow on these forums. In fact there isn't a bigger plow then plow in these forums.

[Olo401]

The United States has NEVER participated in a justified war aside from the war in the pacific.

If you think the War in the Pacific was 100% justified, then you need to dig a little deeper into the history behind the attack on Pearl Harbor. We did a lotta shit to egg on the Japanese in the years prior to piss them off.

And no I'm not saying that declaring war and taking revenge for the attack was wrong up to a point either. It should've ended with the raid on Tokyo and re-taking the Phillipines rather than two atomic bomb blasts after they had already surrendered.

[Day]

holy shit plow wrecked Kuya in this thread. gj sir.

[archibaldcrane]

rather than two atomic bomb blasts after they had already surrendered.

wut

no.

[Olo401]

wut

no.

Oh excuse me.. They attempted to surrender and were refused because they didn't meet the very last condition (they wanted to keep their emperor in place) and missed the deadline imposed by the Allies for a response. Then after the first bomb they again tried to surrender (to the Russians who invaded China) but that wasn't good enough for Truman.

[archibaldcrane]

They're pretty terrible at surrendering.

[Demosthenes11]

They're pretty terrible at surrendering.

should have learned from the french

[Demosthenes11]

holy shit plow wrecked Kuya in this thread. gj sir.

are logical fallacies how you win arguments? I never knew.

"What the president did was illegal"
"Well he's the president and has a background on that so I'm sure it's not illegal. Also, this war is justified"

lots of plow'ing in the middle too.